A new list of MLMers ... worth it?

[Excited-Dave]

I was told about this 2 days ago and have been thinking about it since:
(also you can view it below from signature)

It's advertised as a new list of 678,000+ network marketers.

I got in touch with the guys selling it to see how old this is. Their email back said it was compiled 7 weeks ago and some of the distributor lists such as the 94000 Monavie distributors are brand new.

I’m thinking of buying this.

They're only releasing a few copies. Which may be true or not, I don't know but it's a bit of an investment.

I've been buying biz opp leads and those work out well for our team. But these are actual MLMers. With phone and email information. I'd rather have my team contacting MLMers especially since we're on a binary system. Just 1 good leader on either side and I'll be quite well off!! ;-)

And me and my team would have almost 700,000 network marketer distributors to work through.

But, again, it's a bit of an investment.

I'm thinking of splitting the costs with 1 or 2 of my leaders though...

Thoughts?

ps. I know some of you guys just do internet marketing so I guess this isn't really relevant to you. But MLM-ites ... what do you think??

[AaronJones]

I think you should stop looking for shortcuts is what I think.

Aaron

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by Excited-Dave

I'd rather have my team contacting MLMers especially since we're on a binary system.

Welcome, Sir, but you are extremely misguided, IMHO.

The list will be worse than worthless to you and your team.

"Worse" because it will use up a great deal of energy, effort and attention and you'll sponsor many of them. All of whom won't build your businesses for you and will drop out and be sponsored by someone else into the next "new hot prelaunch" or whatever it is. In a few weeks' time someone else will sponsor them into something else, anyway. These people are just "jumpers" (as some of us say) otherwise they wouldn't be on that list.

Anyone you can successfully prospect from an "MLM genealogy list" isn't worth having, IMO.

Here's an interesting article written recently by a respected and very successful industry leader (nothing commercial there, no opt-in, nothing affiliate, and no company named). Here's a quotation from it, which sums up the situation very neatly: 'I suspect that if you ask "network marketers" in general whether or not this is a reasonable idea worth trying, quite a lot of them will tell you that it is. But if instead you ask only "network marketers earning over $15,000 per month" (or whatever - in other words just the successful ones), you'll look long and hard to find anyone at all recommending this "technique", and when you do find one, he'll be trying to sell you something.'

Good luck - but preferably with something else!

[Mukul Verma]

Alexa right. MLMers believe there company gold (maybe it is, I am not disputing that), so you will have people trying to recruit your people as well. Run, run fast!!!!

[TyBrown]

To me $700 doesn't seem like a HUGE risk. If you've got a system that won't require a grundle of your time to follow up with these leads it seems to me that it probably wouldn't take you too many new members to at least recoup your investment, correct?

[eaglechick]

Hi Dave

Do you want to spend the rest of your life recruiting people? Begging and spoon-feeding your downline to work?

Do'nt even go there.

For once take a tip from a fool.

Keep well.

Elmien

[TLTheLiberator]

Why bother with that model at all?

99% of the people doing business online that will never make any decent and steady money are involved in mlm or some other form of recruiting people model.

Pursue mlm stuff at your own risk.

Please acknowledge that you have been warned.

TL

[Mukul Verma]

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Why bother with that model at all?

99% of the people doing business online that will never make any decent and steady money are involved in mlm or some other form of recruiting people model.

Pursue mlm stuff at your own risk.

Please acknowledge that you have been warned.

TL

Agree or disagree is not my point here!!!

Why bother getting into business, 99% of people fail
Why bother getting into IM, more then 99% dont make a full time living (chances are a lot higher if you are on this forum as you are more serious)
Why bother dreaming big chances are it will not happen.

You can warn towards anything and you are right, however that does not mean he should not pursue it knowing the risks.

Well I am in the 1% that will make whatever I want happen, happen!!!!!

[TLTheLiberator]

Originally Posted by Mukul Verma

Agree or disagree is not my point here!!!

Why bother getting into business, 99% of people fail
Why bother getting into IM, more then 99% dont make a full time living (chances are a lot higher if you are on this forum as you are more serious)
Why bother dreaming big chances are it will not happen.

You can warn towards anything and you are right, however that does not mean he should not pursue it knowing the risks.

Well I am in the 1% that will make whatever I want happen, happen!!!!!

Wonderful for you!

Congrats are in order.


My essential point is that the mlm model is especially dangerous to a newbies' pursuit of a decent and steady online income.

Other models such as the affiliate model are way better suited for a newbie.

That is my point. ( it may be a point of contention between you and me )

TL

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

My essential point is that the mlm model is especially dangerous to a newbies' pursuit of a decent and steady online income.

Other models such as the affiliate model are way better suited for a newbie.

I'm broadly pro-MLM but, statistically speaking, it's hard for even me to argue with that, as a realist.

The only place I could struggle to dispute the point is over the word "especially" and even there, I'd have to concede it's arguable.

Nevertheless, it's also true that (just as with other business models) a tiny minority of people do, through luck, judgment or more likely a combination of the two, hit the jackpot: I have a friend who's 25, works her MLM business part-time and makes about $400k a year. It can be done. Part of the problem is that there are really enormous amounts of misinformation out there (some of them quite convincingly and plausibly expressed) - far, far more than with internet marketing - and everyone has a vested interest in persuading you that their perspective is the correct one (often because they genuinely believe it themselves until 3 years later when they're doing something else!). It's almost impossible for the newbie to know whom to believe and trust.

I'm confident, though, that the plan suggested in the o.p. is not one destined for fame and fortune - and I say that from the "pro-MLM camp"!

[TLTheLiberator]

Originally Posted by alexa_s

I'm quite pro-MLM but, statistically speaking, it's hard for even me to argue with that, as a realist.

The only place I could struggle to dispute the point is over the word "especially" and even there, I'd have to concede it's arguable.

Nevertheless, it's also true that (just as with other business models) a tiny minority of people do, through luck, judgment or more likely a combination of the two, hit the jackpot: I have a friend who's 25, works her MLM business part-time and makes about $400k a year. It can be done. Part of the problem is that there are really enormous amounts of misinformation out there - far, far more than with internet marketing - and everyone has a vested interested in persuading you that their perspective is the correct one (often because they genuinely believe it themselves until 3 years later when they're doing something else!). It's almost impossible for the newbie to know whom to believe and trust.

I'm confident, though, that the plan suggested in the o.p. is not one destined for fame and fortune!

There are always exceptions to the rules right?

My point is that when you look at all the people that never make any money online, 99% of them are involved in or were involved in mlm or some other recruiting people version.

On the other side, 99% of the people who have found online business success are not doing mlm but some other online business model.


TL

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

My point is that when you look at all the people that never make any money online, 99% of them are involved in or were involved in mlm or some other recruiting people version.

On the other side, 99% of the people who have found online business success are not doing mlm but some other online business model.

Yes, I take your point. Where I suspect we differ slightly is that whereas I accept that that's true of "online MLM" (a dreadful business model, for sure), it's by no means always true just of "MLM in general".

[TLTheLiberator]

Originally Posted by alexa_s

Yes, I take your point. Where I suspect we differ slightly is that whereas I accept that that's true of "online MLM" (a dreadful business model, for sure), it's by no means always true just of "MLM in general".

OK.

Point well taken.

I don't know enough about the offline MLM world to make that judgment.

TL