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Old 08-31-2009, 10:22 AM   #1
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Just wondering what your thoughts are when spinning an article as to what percentage of change is need for uniqueness to eliminate duplicated content?
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Old 08-31-2009, 10:30 AM   #2
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To eliminate the duplicate content penalty, the article should be atleast 30% unique..

The easiest way to rewrite the article is take one sentence & rewrite it in minimum 4 different ways...

And the easiest way to do this is with Power Article Rewriter...

Hope that helps..

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Hi.

First of all, I'm not convinced there is such a thing as a duplicate content penalty short of duplicating entire sites. You can Google or search this forum for "duplicate content myth" and you'll find lots of logical reasons why it doesn't really exist.

Second, I'm not sure if there is any magic "uniqueness" number either. Where people get 30%, 50%, 60% uniqueness is unclear to me. I think it's just numbers that people pull out of their arse and then it gets passed around like scientific evidence.

All I can say is that personally I don't do huge amounts of spinning on the articles I submit to either article directories or other sites.

I DO tend to spin, just a little:

the title
the first paragraph
the resource box

I have articles that appears on page one of Google in multiple positions, each showing the slightly different title and first paragraph.

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Old 08-31-2009, 11:27 AM   #4
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Like your approach. Would you recommend a site/soft for sipping?
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Hi.

First of all, I'm not convinced there is such a thing as a duplicate content penalty short of duplicating entire sites. You can Google or search this forum for "duplicate content myth" and you'll find lots of logical reasons why it doesn't really exist.

Second, I'm not sure if there is any magic "uniqueness" number either. Where people get 30%, 50%, 60% uniqueness is unclear to me. I think it's just numbers that people pull out of their arse and then it gets passed around like scientific evidence.

All I can say is that personally I don't do huge amounts of spinning on the articles I submit to either article directories or other sites.

I DO tend to spin, just a little:

the title
the first paragraph
the resource box

I have articles that appears on page one of Google in multiple positions, each showing the slightly different title and first paragraph.

Just my 2 cents.

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Old 08-31-2009, 11:33 AM   #5
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To eliminate the duplicate content penalty, the article should be atleast 30% unique..
agree about the %, although there's not really any 'penalty' as such, you just won't do anything in the serps with duplicates. That percentage, btw, is something I have shaved down from over the year (from over 70%). It's the minimum I can get away with and still dominate an entire page of google serps with what is essentially one article. I fully expect that number to rise as search engines get better over the coming years.

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The easiest way to rewrite the article is take one sentence & rewrite it in minimum 4 different ways...

And the easiest way to do this is with Power Article Rewriter...

Hope that helps..
disagree. I prefer just to click a single button. doesn't get much easier than that.

http://www.contentboss.com - automated article rewriting software gives you unique content at a few CENTS per article!. New - Put text into jetspinner format automatically! http://www.autojetspinner.com

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Default Re: Spinning Articles

I do spin my articles always, To make sure that I am getting links from different content, I used to do some re-writing works each time when I submit my articles for each directories. This help me to drive some decent referral traffic via those articles as well as some good QUALITY RELATED backlinks too....
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Like your approach. Would you recommend a site/soft for sipping?
I also recommend Power Article Rewriter.

By the way, don't me get wrong -- I'm not saying that spinning to get a high percentage of uniqueness is a bad thing.

I'm just saying that it may not be a necessary thing.

Ultimately you need to decide for yourself what you think will work best. Some people never spin and only use unique articles. That's good too. Costs more in terms of time and money although they certainly won't ever have to worry about any duplicate content issues and some believe they get better results with more unique content.

And for some that peace of mind is worth the extra time and money.

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Old 08-31-2009, 04:23 PM   #8
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Thanks for all the replies as all have good information.
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Default Re: Spinning Articles

The 30% figure is something that Google themselves have posted on their webmaster
blog. This refers to content on the SAME domain, not content on differnt domains.
In other words, you can use the same article on several domains, and there will be no
penalty at all.

HTH

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I don't believe in the penalty.

I do believe duplicate content doesn't get indexed.

As for spinning, it's easier not to spin sentences, just spin every second or third word.

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The 30% figure is something that Google themselves have posted on their webmaster
blog. This refers to content on the SAME domain, not content on differnt domains.
In other words, you can use the same article on several domains, and there will be no
penalty at all.

HTH

Glenn
I recall reading something to that effect a while back. The way I see this is if you spin the articles and have 10 - 20 percent difference you will be have more than that because each article directory will have its own content in the header, footer and sides along with the one you submitted. Thanks for the information.
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