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8 years ago

I really don't think this is the first key to success

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Frank Donovan 8 years ago

Originally Posted by techwizard

I really don't think this is the first key to success

Doesn't even scrape the top 10.
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BigFrank Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by toneyjr

work smart, not hard

Don't be a loser! Work smart AND hard.

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Michael Meaney

8 years ago

With each one of these wonderful daily insights you drop on us, you're discrediting yourself further.. it has the exact opposite result that you want to achieve.

Originally Posted by Yokolo

If you see competitors putting out 5 videos per week than you should be putting out 10 – 15 videos per week.

So.. from this we can assume that your competition is posting 2 -3 useless articles on forums per week?

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PPG19

8 years ago

Outwork your competitor,withouth any real basis behind, is not a good strategy. You could end up working more for nothing. As others said work smart not hard but i agree there is a lot of hard work to do too.

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techwizard

8 years ago

Some of theses posts are poping every day, that you can make a forum out of them.
People still believe the 2008-2010 bullshit. Pity !

I only see one reason of doing so and it's to advertise your signature, I'm not saying you shouldn't but please not this way. Try to post something that actually helps and cut the crap.

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Steve B

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Yokolo

the number one key to success is to outwork your competitors, it is as simple as that.

Yokolo,

Utter nonsense. The key to success is not to make more work for yourself.

IMO, it's evident that you're writing about marketing without any real knowledge of, background, or experience in the business.

A washing machine works hard all day long going around and around and it never gets anywhere. Same thing with some people.

Working harder and longer than anyone else should be the opposite of what every marketer should have as a goal.

If success was merely

uploading more videos than your competitors,
writing longer articles
increasing your output
working harder

then the road to a successful business would be oh so easy! Anyone could go to eBay, buy a 100,000 article bundle for $7, hire some 3rd world workers to package and upload them . . . and bingo - the money comes flooding in! Ridiculous.

Steve

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Mike Anthony 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Steve B

A washing machine works hard all day long going around and around and it never gets anywhere. Same thing with some people.

Steve I would agree with you except for two little itsy bitsy phrases in the OP

If you see your competitors

When you find something that works

SO its not just doing more work for more work sake. It seeing what is working for your competitor and doing more (and yes I would say better too).What the freak is wrong with that?

This is PRECISELY how every mentee excells his mentors. sucking everything they see working and doing more of it. In one of my fields (SEO) if you study whats ranking - and do more quality links than your competitors you will GREATLY improve your chances of ranking. In my other field (programming ) if you put more features into a piece of software you greatly increase the chance of success.

#stophatinonthenewbies
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discrat

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Steve B

Yokolo,

Utter nonsense. The key to success is not to make more work for yourself.

IMO, it's evident that you're writing about marketing without any real knowledge of, background, or experience in the business.

A washing machine works hard all day long going around and around and it never gets anywhere. Same thing with some people.

Working harder and longer than anyone else should be the opposite of what every marketer should have as a goal.

If success was merely

uploading more videos than your competitors,
writing longer articles
increasing your output
working harder

then the road to a successful business would be oh so easy! Anyone could go to eBay, buy a 100,000 article bundle for $7, hire some 3rd world workers to package and upload them . . . and bingo - the money comes flooding in! Ridiculous.

Steve

I wouldn't go far as to say it's utter nonsense. Actually, I think there is some Truth to it and it transcends most everything in Life.

Of course you need to work "smart" not jut long and hard.

That has to be a MUST. If you do this many times you will NOT have to work so long

But to say this is utter nonsense is well....somewhat utter nonsense in of itself. Sorry Steve, I disagree.

I cannot tell you how many things I have been involved with whether it was track and cross country to operating an business... the fact is a lot of the Times what separated the winners from the losers was one outworked the other.

Plain and simple as that. NOT always but many times

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Steve B

8 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

But to say this is utter nonsense is well....somewhat utter nonsense in of itself. Sorry Steve, I disagree.

Nothing wrong with disagreeing - I have no problem with that. If we all thought alike, we wouldn't improve much over time.

For you Robert, and Mike Anthony, here are my objections to the post:

1- "the number one key to success is to outwork your competitors"

Outworking someone is no guarantee of anything. So many people spend so much time really working hard in this game and they have nothing or very little to show for it. Even competitors that you think are doing great often are barely getting by. IMO, to say that this is the number one key to success is misleading. What takes someone else 4 hours to do, I might be able to do in 1 hour (for many reasons - experience, automation, time saving tools, yada, yada). So I have to work more than 4 hours to be more of a success than my competitor? Utter nonsense IMO.

2- "If you see competitors putting out 5 videos per week than you should be putting out 10 – 15 videos per week."

Putting out a larger quantity of anything isn't the key to success. If it were, it would be a cinch to hire out simple product creation, video making, blog posting, and all the rest. I am convinced it's the unique, thoughtful, new and original thought in a niche that people are drawn to. It's the products that really deliver and that answer the demand of the niche market that are going to bring in the money. The OP said nothing about quality, or meeting demand but his whole emphasis was doing more than anyone else - that leaves folks, especially newbies with the wrong impression, IMO. Same with simply writing longer articles than your competitors - that is not the #1 key to success.

3- "When you are not seeing any results increase your output."

IMO, this is very bad advice. Why would anyone do more and more of what's not working in order to be successful? Ridiculous assumption that doing more is going to change things for the better, IMO.

4- To me, the advice Yokolo has given in this thread, and most of his other threads read like simple rehashed generalities that he read somewhere. I don't think he has been in the trenches and actually figured out for himself what IM is all about - at least his posts don't read that way.

He is certainly entitled to express his opinions, as we all are . . . but when I read an opinion that I strongly disagree with, and I think is bad advice, I am going to speak out and give a differing opinion based on my own knowledge, experience, and working career in small business development. I would hope others would do the same to protect the integrity of this forum as a place where sound IM advice can be found.

Steve

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Mike Anthony

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Steve B

I am convinced it's the unique, thoughtful, new and original thought in a niche that people are drawn to. It's the products that really deliver and that answer the demand of the niche market that are going to bring in the money. The OP said nothing about quality, or meeting demand but his whole emphasis was doing more than anyone else - that leaves folks, especially newbies with the wrong impression, IMO. Same with simply writing longer articles than your competitors - that is not the #1 key to success.

Well, First let me say thanks for putting a reasoned response out there to all the hate in this thread but though I would normally agree with you on some things I can't because its not based on any reality in this forum. I bolded the most obvious sentence not meeting reality.

In IM MMO (and that IS what WF is mostly about) where is this "unique original thought"? In my nine years here I have been wowed by original thought maybe four times and none of them in this main section - to be honest the best forum for that was probably the offline section.

Nine years ago a "product" was a double or triple spaced PDF or maybe some videos
the motto was "the money is in the list"
90% of the board would not contemplate any website idea if it could not be done in WP with a plugin
the number one niches people were involved with was weight loss, dating and sex related niches and of course MMO. In other words all the easy and non original take the money and run niches

Today that is EXACTLY the same. Being well known for SEO over the years I have had hundreds of people show me their sites and can attest thats it's the same niches most are into. furthermore neither their sites or most of the posts by old timers on here are anything innovative or unique. If that were so then your premise would kick in. Despite change in management or ownership people would by your own thesis keep flocking in here because of all the unique content and creative money making content by older members.

To be honest I marvel at what some old time members here consider great innovative posts. Zig Ziglar wrote years ago and is now unfortunately dead and gone and yet almost any of his books would cover what is high fived here as great , fresh and innovative.

When a guy is selling ahem....an intimate personal extension product on WP there isn't a whole lot of innovation or creativity on his or any of the WP sites. Since there are TONS of niches in IM MMO that have close to zero creativity and innovation then YES getting more exposure, doing more videos, and getting more eyeballs is going to be where the action is. IF there is innovation and creativity then your point would hold but on WF it just plain does NOT for what 75% plus are into

again I know the answer will be....well I innovate and others don't and that's the problem but sorry....again if so your premise that people would flock to originality and creativity is defeated. People are not flocking to WF . They are leaving and they wouldn't care fig sticks of who the owners are on mods are doing if it really was here.

Sorry just keeping it real and I Know it will upset some but the Musk's, the Zuckerbergs, the Pages, the Jobs do NOT hang out WF and never have. Neither do any CEOs innovating in all kinds of niches and technologies. This is predominately an IM MMO board than many business people won't even post on.
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in addition you are doing to the newb what is never allowed of the old time posters. You are slicing his words out of context. When he said do more when its not working you left out the context that he was talking about in the beginning for the first weeks. One of the great problems is that people want to see instant results on the web when it takes time. Actually , working extra hard in the beginning when you have not seen a result is pretty good advice for most IMers.

If the guy is dropping posts without thought or experience that IS an issue but as far as this post and its content. the protest is overboard and off

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Steve B

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

IF there is innovation and creativity then your point would hold but on WF it just plain does NOT for what 75% plus are into

Thank you for confirming what I am suggesting. You are exactly right except your 75% should probably be 95%. And that's the number that are failing in IM.

Steve

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Mike Anthony

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Steve B

Thank you for confirming what I am suggesting. You are exactly right except your 75% should probably be 95%. And that's the number that are failing in IM.

Steve

Thank you for confirming my rebuttal is sound. You had an opportunity to show where that originality is by ANYONE here and couldn't.

this is not as many try to pretend a general IM board - from the WSOs to most of the posts to what most people are into is MMO. There are plenty people killing it in MMO by advertising more and driving more traffic and there's next to no creativity in it. Everyone including big names like Kern merely pretend like what they are saying in most of their stuff is fresh and new.

It doesn't; take a whole lot of innovation to get someone to buy a product that will allegedly make you lose weight over night, get women in bed or make cash over night. You don't have to innovate in prostitution either - the innovation (well...er....you know what i mean) is not whats the selling point.

Mind you I am with you wishing this was a more innovative business forum but since what most people here are into are not niches where there is creativity the knock on the OP isn't on target.

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Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

There are plenty people killing it in MMO

Yep,
But none of them are hanging around here.
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Michael Meaney

8 years ago

If you're doing that shady 'fake it until you make it' thing.. then at least do it in front of people who don't know you're doing it..

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Mike Anthony

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Meaney

With each one of these wonderful daily insights you drop on us, you're discrediting yourself further..

Originally Posted by Steve B

Utter nonsense. The key to success is not to make more work for yourself.

People still believe the 2008-2010 bullshit. Pity !

Originally Posted by Frank Donovan

Doesn't even scrape the top 10.

Originally Posted by Michael Meaney

If you're doing that shady 'fake it until you make it' thing.. then at least do it in front of people who don't know you're doing it..

ROFL....the hatorade is great in this thread.

How dare a newbie post an OP that indicates hard work as something to do with success in IM . Cheeky little newbie

SHAME ON HIM!! It shoudl be a thread that read

"how you can easily make money with no money, no website and just using your cellphone"

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Gambino

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

ROFL....the hatorade is great in this thread.

How dare a newbie post an OP that indicates hard work as something to do with success in IM . Cheeky little newbie

SHAME ON HIM!! It shoudl be a thread that read

"how you can easily make money with no money, no website and just using you cellphone"

I'll ignore the content for now...

The main issue, in my opinion, is that the OP has posted the same types of threads multiple times now and hasn't even come back to join the conversation. The way I see it, it's nothing but sig spamming. The mods should be deleting these threads.

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Mike Anthony

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Gambino

I'll ignore the content for now...

The main issue, in my opinion, is that the OP has posted the same types of threads multiple times now and hasn't even come back to join the conversation. The way I see it, it's nothing but sig spamming. The mods should be deleting these threads.

that may be the case but unless the mods decide to boot him a thread has to be evaluated on it s merits. People aren't just going after the guys pattern but things he said in THIS thread. Let s not forget. People were climbing a tree when WF employees were posting articles.

At this point I don't know that you can make a point about him not coming back to this thread. its extremely hostile so even if he wanted to he probably wouldn't

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Michael Meaney

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

ROFL....the hatorade is great in this thread.

How dare a newbie post an OP that indicates hard work as something to do with success in IM . Cheeky little newbie

SHAME ON HIM!! It shoudl be a thread that read

"how you can easily make money with no money, no website and just using you cellphone"

Mike scroll through the idiots previous posts..

Take a look at his "advice", then please come back and tell me that you don't agree with it..

Because I really don't want to ROFL @ you... I really don't.

#startreadinghispreviouspostsfortheloveofgodmike

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Mike Anthony

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Meaney

Because I really don't want to ROFL @ you... I really don't.

lol....I'm sorry you got the wrong impression Mike....I don't give a flying fig what you do or don't do . Be my guest. I am responding to the merits of this thread because people are making comments about the content in THIS thread.

whether you literally want to get on the ground and start rolling is of no interest to me one way or the other. You're just another name on the internet.

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8 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

lol....I'm sorry you got the wrong impression Mike....I don't give a flying fig what you do or don't do . Be my guest. I am responding to the merits of this thread because people are making comments about the content in THIS thread.

whether you literally want to get on the ground and start rolling like a fool is of no interest to me one way or the other. Your just another name on the internet.

Oh dear, if you're too lazy or whatever to research something before you open your mouth about it and pretend that you have a clue, hey that's cool with me, man.. you go get antagonistic about it all you like, man

P.S. I think you meant "You're just another name on the internet"...

'Your' is a possessive determiner and pronoun which means ‘belonging to you’.

'You’re' is a contraction and is short for the two words ‘you are’.

Don't feel bad about it Mick, it's a common mistake, man.

Hope this helps you to improve your English language / communication skills, man.

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Mike Anthony

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Meaney

Oh dear, if you're too lazy or whatever to research something before you open your mouth

sorry Mike you still have the wrong impression. You considering me lazy goes right besides whether you roll on the floor or not. Not even a blip on my radar . i see your opinion as having no authority so umm why would I care what you think is lazy?

If you can;t get though your noggin that I am responding to this thread based on the comments about THIS threads content then --- hey -- even more reason to not consider you logical enough to care what you think or how you wish to dirty your clothes rolling.

P.S. I think you meant "You're just another name on the internet"... 'You're' is a contraction and is short for the two words 'you are'.

Don't feel bad about it Mick, it's a common mistake, man.

I don't....not even a little because I had already corrected it as a typo before i even read your last post. You are obviously unaware that even people who know that often do it from a typing error not hitting the shift key. Hey I am even extra lazy when I am conversing with someone obviously not up to having a intelligent conversation with. Besides, it all evens out since you seem to have forgotten how to spell the same name we share as a first...lol.

Hope this helps you to improve your English language / communication skills, man.

Wish it did but alas it doesn't. Meanwhile its a tell tale sign that someone doesn't have anything of substance to say when all they can talk about in reply is a typo?

the word for that is - pedantic.

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DABK

8 years ago

The newbie did not indicate that hard work as something to do with success in IM; the newbie stated that outworking your competitors is the #1 key to success. And - the newbie set it up in a void.

Hard work is necessary, but you need to use your noggin before you start all the hard work.

If your competitor is putting up 10 videos a day, maybe you should find a niche, keywords, where the top dog is putting out 1 videos a year, and outperform that top dog.

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

ROFL....the hatorade is great in this thread.

How dare a newbie post an OP that indicates hard work as something to do with success in IM . Cheeky little newbie

SHAME ON HIM!! It shoudl be a thread that read

"how you can easily make money with no money, no website and just using you cellphone"

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Mike Anthony 8 years ago

Originally Posted by DABK

Hard work is necessary, but you need to use your noggin before you start all the hard work.

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Sure I''d agree but two things

1) as i have pointed out he's talking about mimicking the strategies of his competitors. so its focused in on specific things they are doing not indiscriminate -work harder"

2) we had a thread not so long ago where an old member stated not thinking but doing was the key to success. Being too thoughtful and intelligent was the problem i thought it was total malarkey but it was sucked up because it wasn't a newbie saying it.
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8 years ago

Hard Work = success

but luck is also important for us.

I knew quadcopters would be massive.

People said they were toys and did not see what was coming.

People can make fun of you, but often the key is when others fear to swim, to jump in.

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thegreatamazing

8 years ago

TAKING MASSIVE ACTION = RESULTS!

Believe it or not, the hardest thing to do is to START. You have to do something and stop procrastinating

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Gambino 8 years ago

Originally Posted by thegreatamazing

TAKING MASSIVE ACTION = RESULTS!

Believe it or not, the hardest thing to do is to START. You have to do something and stop procrastinating

Oh no, the "take massive action!" crowd has arrived. Now we just need someone to post that picture of the guy digging a tunnel but turning around before he reaches the diamonds.
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8 years ago

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Knowledge is the key to success.

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gweijie

8 years ago

Nice suggestions, as far as blog marketing goes, more imperfect posts mean more links indexed by google. Completely correct advice.

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luiscastillo

8 years ago

We need to give good content in our posts, if we write useful tips and ways to generate income..people will remember you ....and follow you up wherever you go....

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DABK

8 years ago

And what does that have with "You want the #1 key to success?"

Originally Posted by luiscastillo

We need to give good content in our posts, if we write useful tips and ways to generate income..people will remember you ....and follow you up wherever you go....

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luiscastillo 8 years ago

Originally Posted by DABK

And what does that have with "You want the #1 key to success?"

The author of the article says that "it doesn't matter if you write or post good articles or videos, the point is to make as many as you can"...if you state that writing not good articles or broadcasting horrible videos you want to convince me that is the #1 key to success, well...unfortunately I have to disagree with the author of this article and with anyone supporting him...

That's why I insist, we need to write good content....
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Princess Balestra

8 years ago

Thing is, results do not simply arise outta the ether.

Even if ur a Deity Of Considerable Significance, pullin' in the finest aura/angel combo, you still gotta wave your arms around an' dispense sum theatrical smoke.

So what ur lookin' at alla the time is gettin' more resultin' bucks for your inputta bangs.

Noo project, you prolly gotta work hard to pick it up an' run with it, but when ur done, you got a handle on WHAT produced WHAT.

Sumtimes, you gonna be happy with the outcome, an' other times you mebbe wanna go blow your brains out with a frickin' bazooka.

But always, you got two variables to play with, an' you should be lookin' to refine how well the former (what you did) impacts on the latter (what result you got).

Most refinements follow the Less Is More rule — gettin' faster, more accurate, cuttin' out waste, discoverin' shortcuts etc.

First WHAT diminishes, second WHAT expands.

What you got in there is efficiency, wisdom an' mastery.

This is not to say the OP is entierly outta the ballpark, cos sumtimes brute force is necessary, but I would always wannit as a last resort.

Whenya got a pet project, it has gotta be better to go with sum high maintenance 'pees evryplace' puppy you can train into an obedient servant rather than a cute balla fur turns into sum killer wolf beast requirin' halfa NATO to keep under control.

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JohnMcCabe

8 years ago

The problem isn't with what he said. The problem, as usual for him, is what he left out.

The idea that because you see someone deemed a competitor doing something, you should be doing 2x or 3x of the same thing without thinking is silly. There may be a perfectly good reason that competitor is putting out a given amount of content. Same goes for article length. There may be a valid reason for posting shorter articles (like maybe leaving out the fluff used to inflate to an arbitrary word count).

Sometimes the key to "outworking" your competition is skull sweat, not shoveling more stuff just to shovel more stuff.

It's kind of like the folks who say you should just copy what your favorite gooroo is doing, because he/she's a gooroo and must be doing it right. Problem is, successful people test things and you might be copying a losing alternative.

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Mike Anthony 8 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

The idea that because you see someone deemed a competitor doing something, you should be doing 2x or 3x of the same thing without thinking is silly..

Theres nothing of that in The OP. He says nowhere - without thinking. Most of you are creating strawmen to bash the OP which is telling. You are also insisting that an OP be exhaustive. I have seen threads here thanked by all of you that stated total nonsense like "thinking less" will help you achieve. Because it was an older member he was allowed to claim later that he meant over thinking and had other things in mind. Regardless the thread was a hot mess but it was highly acclaimed

The OP might have stated "out work" in doing more but there no evidence that he would disagree with also working smart. As a matter of fact outworked can mean both.

Originally Posted by luiscastillo

The author of the article says that "it doesn't matter if you write or post good articles or videos, the point is to make as many as you can"...

There's probably an English Language comprehension issue here

A) if you are putting quotes around what someone says it ought to be what the person actually says
B) the word "perfect" is not totally synonymous with "good"

Your objections are to what was never said in the OP
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William Waltham

8 years ago

The thing is, different things work for different people. Everyone's path to success is not the same. Maybe he is actually getting results by doing what he posted, and just wanted to share it with others. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.

I didn't see anything malicious or unworthy in the post....just someone offering some friendly advice on what worked for him. Whether it actually DID work for him, or he is just using the forum to get his sig link out there is a whole other thing. I'm not going to make that judgement. He came across as nice and sincere, and unless he proves himself to be otherwise, that's how I'll regard him.

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aizaku

8 years ago

hard work and out working your competition...

sorry but success is more expensive than that..

i believe consistency is more important than hard work..

but beyond that..

you need to know that what you're doing today and every other day (consistency) builds up to your goal. that requires research and planning..

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Catherine Bueno

8 years ago

Hello there,

I'm sorry but I will have to disgree with your tips... For me, the key to success in WORKING RIGHT, EFFICIENTLY AND EFFICTIVELY... It does not mean if your competitor has a 700-word content, you double it; unless you provide really good content.

Anyway, if this works for you, then so be it. Wishing you the best of luck.

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kursat

8 years ago

In my experience...once you have decided the line of business you want to work in - then it comes to the time and effort you put into making that work. There are going to be ups and downs but that is life.

As long as you keep yourself motivated, the money will come.

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Kay King

8 years ago

All the arguments aside....

I don't know about "#1 key to success" - but a countdown timer that remains at zero probably isn't the best way to proceed. (from sig link of OP)

Sometimes instead of arguments of what "might" be ....it's good to look at what "is".

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Mike Anthony 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

I don't know about "#1 key to success" - but a countdown timer that remains at zero probably isn't the best way to proceed. (from sig link of OP)

It doesn't. the javascript takes a few second to load. Right now its just under a day.

but seriously how remarkable is it that a new person would be using scarcity when it was something taught by many here for years?
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trobo

8 years ago

I think knowledge is more important and more effective than hard work when it comes to running a business. It all goes back to the old saying "work smart not hard", although I hate worn-out cliches.

If by hard work you mean focus & discipline - then yeah, I tend to agree with that.

But work just for works sake? Well that's just stupid when you could reach (and even surpass) your original goal with far less wasted effort by simply having the right knowledge.

Running a business is far different than having a regular job working for someone else. I've had jobs where people would appear to work extremely hard, yet these folks would get far less done than those that made it look easy by comparison.

But you know who the boss seemed more impressed with? Yep, the ones who were killing themselves - even though they were actually less productive. I guess it just looked more impressive to them. Oh well, so much for working smart.

I think a lot of this has to do with culture. Many of us are taught from a young age to not be lazy and to work very hard.

As I said, entrepreneurship is a whole different world. Many times hard work just isn't enough.

You have to bring more to the table to be successful, and higher than average intelligence is one of them. A lot of inspirational speakers don't want to admit this, and like to give the impression that anyone and his grandma can become rich if they only work hard.

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Kay King

8 years ago

Not sure what counter you are looking at - the one on his site is 00000000 all the way and has been since at least yesterday. The $1 price hasn't changed and the counter has not reset. Are you seeing something different?

He was asked about the counter in another thread - he didn't respond. He's been asked several questions in various thread but does not engage in the conversation he started. You refer to the OP as a newbie - but that's not what he claims.

If no one questions counters that aren't or prices that don't change as promised - how does a new marketer know he needs to do more?

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Mike Anthony

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Not sure what counter you are looking at - the one on his site is 00000000 all the way and has been since at least yesterday. The $1 price hasn't changed and the counter has not reset. Are you seeing something different?

He seems to be using glitchy javascript. You are either getting a cached result or your browser is having trouble with it. When I visit the link

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same in his sig there is a countdown. Can't speak to it being set to zero before because I only visited it today but the counter is working in my browser. Of course you are right about false scarcity being scuzzy but its such a widespread practice that when I have had sales people actually have complained "why can't I get the same price. I didn't know you were serious about the timer."

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Brent Stangel

8 years ago

You want the #1 key to success read this

As no one has yet mentioned it, let me...

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Kay King 8 years ago

Tried it in two browsers....it may be my system....but it's still a stupid thing to do. I looked at that site a couple days ago and there were a few hours left on the "counter". The price was $1.

What's the price you see now?

The OP does not bother to engage in threads he starts so doesn't really matter.
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Alexis Gil

8 years ago

Sounds not bad. But I think that it is wrong to do 'one thousand imperfect videos' or something else. I don't think that everything and every time should be done perfect. But when you suggest 'one thousand' imperfect things for people they skip the one that will be done perfect (they'll simply tired of badly done things).

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