Who Do You Feel Are The Ghostwriters With The Absolute Best Quality?

[Allen Graves]

I am hunting for some ghostwriters, but I am unfamiliar with most of their work.

Can anyone recommend a ghostwriter or two who put out top-quality work that will lead a reader to the resource links and perhaps even have them ready to convert into a paying client before even clicking the resource links?

Price does not matter.

Allen Graves

[adamv]

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

I am hunting for some ghostwriters, but I am unfamiliar with most of their work.

Can anyone recommend a ghostwriter or two who put out top-quality work that will lead a reader to the resource links and perhaps even have them ready to convert into a paying client before even clicking the resource links?

Price does not matter.

Allen Graves

I've been doing a bit of ghost writing for some extra cash while waiting for some of my affiliate commissions to come in.

[Allen Graves]

Thanks Adam.

If anyone has any testimonials or examples or credentials, shoot them to me in a PM.

I kinda want the thread to help those who are also looking for top-quality ghostwriters...rather than turn into a salesfest. LOL (Otherwise the thread may be rightfully deleted)

Who have you used in the past that has gotten you some killer results?

I have heard of Bev Clement and Bill Platt - anyone else have good experiences with them?

Allen

[DeePower]

Ghostwriters
http://jenndize.com
http://www.ghostwritersinternational.com
http://www.newarborenterprise.com
http://www.orderarticles.net
http://www.valentinecontentcreation.com
http://www.articles-written.com
http://www.lucindaswriting.com
http://www.aceinkslinger.com
Private Label Report, PLR Articles, Private label rights
Dee

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Originally Posted by adamv

I've been doing a bit of ghost writing for some extra cash while waiting for some of my affiliate commissions to come in.

I can verify that Adams articles are very effective

[Allen Graves]

Thanks Jeremy and Dee,

I have heard good things about Jenn Dize too.

Allen

[Willie Crawford]

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

Thanks Jeremy and Dee,

I have heard good things about Jenn Dize too.

Allen

Jenn does great work.

Willie

[JayXtreme]

Tiffany Dow..

Can you say "Ghostwriter to the GURU's" ?

Woman has mad skillz.... her content is always red hot.. in any form...PLR, blog posts....

Peace

Jay

[JOHN_RODRIGUEZ]

Tina Golden and her team have produced some excellent articles for me.

http://www.warriorforum.com/warriors...me-see-us.html

John

[Sylvia Meier]

I agree with John, Tina has become one of my go to gals.

Sylvia

[George Wright]

Nice topic Allen,

You know what I'd like to see?

What George?

Glad you asked.

I would like to see examples of what authorities such as yourself think of as GREAT articles.

I'd even like to see an ebook by someone I could trust. "Great Article Swipe File." With five star rated articles on different subjects.

This may sound strange, but, when it comes to article writing I see what I think are good articles but I can't seem to find any expert opinions on "good, better, best." Or, $5, $10, $25 caliber 300 - 450 word articles.

George Wright

[HeySal]

Originally Posted by George Wright

Nice topic Allen,

You know what I'd like to see?

What George?

Glad you asked.

I would like to see examples of what authorities such as yourself think of as GREAT articles.

I'd even like to see an ebook by someone I could trust. "Great Article Swipe File." With five star rated articles on different subjects.

This may sound strange, but, when it comes to article writing I see what I think are good articles but I can't seem to find any expert opinions on "good, better, best." Or, $5, $10, $25 caliber 300 - 450 word articles.

George Wright

Send it to me and I can rate it for ya - got the credentials, I beez edjimicated in righting n stuffs bout subconsis thinks.

Level 1 - grammar, spelling, etc. correctness - they know what the heck a referent is and use them correctly. (one of the easiest ways to spot a hack because most have no clue).
Level 2 - Cohesiveness of subject....do they know what to include and what to leave out, and how to construct a good flow or do they ramble?
Less than perfect level 2 - send it back, it's reject.
Level 3 - do keywords blend naturally enough that the writing flows as natural with no trace of a word being purposely placed.
Prices start at level 3.
Level 4 - semantic impact - does their imagery project as supposed to?
Do they use hypotheticals when they should be using absolutes? (example - will vs would). Do they avoid subordinating with tag questions or other subordinating words or constructions(It's a nice day, isn't it)? Do they use contradictory imagery (example - trying to portray a woman as astute, but then calling her a "working girl" instead of a "career woman")
IF your writer passes at level 4, you have something well on its way to being a spendy article if these issues are dealt with correctly - give them 4 cents per word if their level 1 target is perfect, 3 cent per word if their subject is slightly off track.
Level 5 - Logical deduction/induction - is there any faulty logic - unsound premises, conclusions not supported by necessity of premises? Motus ponus argument? (simple logically invalid construction where the conclusion does not follow with absolute necessity from premises) - Logical fallacy (such as fallacy of ommission), etc?
If everything to this point is perfect you are looking at paying whatever is asked and feeling really lucky if you get a decent price.

HTH

[George Wright]

HaySal,

The word is not edjimicated. The word is edumicated.

George Wright

[HeySal]

Damn George - I thunked you was from the East. Soory.

[andybeveridge]

A lot of people will be reading the words of Annette Young and not knowing it. She has joined this forum I think. Here is a link www.annette-young.com

[Lance K]

I'll second the plug for Tiffany. Top notch quality all the way.

Originally Posted by JayXtreme

Tiffany Dow..

Can you say "Ghostwriter to the GURU's" ?

Woman has mad skillz.... her content is always red hot.. in any form...PLR, blog posts....

Peace

Jay

[Allen Graves]

Awesome, thanks everyone.

Anyone else have any leads for quality writers in the league of the folks mentioned above?

Allen

[Allen Graves]

Originally Posted by HeySal

Send it to me and I can rate it for ya - got the credentials, I beez edjimicated in righting n stuffs bout subconsis thinks.

Level 1 - grammar, spelling, etc. correctness - they know what the heck a referent is and use them correctly. (one of the easiest ways to spot a hack because most have no clue).
Level 2 - Cohesiveness of subject....do they know what to include and what to leave out, and how to construct a good flow or do they ramble?
Less than perfect level 2 - send it back, it's reject.
Level 3 - do keywords blend naturally enough that the writing flows as natural with no trace of a word being purposely placed.
Prices start at level 3.
Level 4 - semantic impact - does their imagery project as supposed to?
Do they use hypotheticals when they should be using absolutes? (example - will vs would). Do they avoid subordinating with tag questions or other subordinating words or constructions(It's a nice day, isn't it)? Do they use contradictory imagery (example - trying to portray a woman as astute, but then calling her a "working girl" instead of a "career woman")
IF your writer passes at level 4, you have something well on its way to being a spendy article if these issues are dealt with correctly - give them 4 cents per word if their level 1 target is perfect, 3 cent per word if their subject is slightly off track.
Level 5 - Logical deduction/induction - is there any faulty logic - unsound premises, conclusions not supported by necessity of premises? Motus ponus argument? (simple logically invalid construction where the conclusion does not follow with absolute necessity from premises) - Logical fallacy (such as fallacy of ommission), etc?
If everything to this point is perfect you are looking at paying whatever is asked and feeling really lucky if you get a decent price.

HTH

I love it! These are some great points.

Not to downplay HeySal's list at all, but the true and final test of an article is its CTR and, more importantly conversion rate. Of course, anything less than HeySal's level 4 is probably going to fail anyway.

George, you are so right. The ghostwriting scene is big right now and, unfortunately, nobody has really set any indystry level standards on writer output. Shame.

Looks like it is up to the individual whether or not to seek out a proven, successful ghostwriter.

Allen

[HeySal]

Well that's where it all becomes extremely esoteric, Allen.

Even the most well written of articles sometimes don't do as well as others in conversion. It's not always the fault of the writer - although it's usually the writer that gets kicked for it. There's some stuff that isn't going to sell as well as other stuff, just like there are articles that aren't going to convert as well as others no matter how well written they are. There are a few articles that I wrote that I was very surprised to see convert better than the ones I thought would be the killers.

It's not a field that there is any black and white. Sometimes the client messes up with their specs. For example, I've refused to write articles because of the amount of keywords and the choice of keywords they want stuffed into a piece and expect a great article to come out of the mess. It wouldn't have done well and I would have taken the heat for it. Sometimes there isn't just the strength of the market for a particular product that the client wants to think there is, or sometimes the product cover image is garbage. There are a lot of reasons something very well written won't convert well at times.

Sometimes articles that shouldn't convert well at all do so just because of the name attached to it. It's a fortunate writer that has such a name for a client. If you don't have the name behind that article, you better hope that they did everything else right because just because something hits page 1 on google is not always a guarantee that sales are going to follow and it's not always any reason that the writer will be able to fix.

[Allen Graves]

Thanks, I am getting a great education here on something I have pretty much never looked at.

Allen

[craig970]

Allen,

I use a Virtual Assistant who transcribes and spins articles. I have also used her to ghost write and she is great.

Go to virtualpaige.wordpress.com

[jan roos]

Zeuss66 has been the best for me. Although I am not sure if he still does ghostwriting.

Cheers

[KenThompson]

I am not aware of the quality of many writers mentioned here. But
I would tip my hat to Tiffany Dow, as previously mentioned. Another
writer who is up and coming and has a killer writing style is SMS. That's
her user name here in the WF. I don't remember her real name, but her
nick name is Oz. She's from the UK.

Good luck.

[Dave777]

Bet you'll find a few more Ghostwriters With The Absolute Best Quality using the following resource if you do your homework well before choosing...
WSO Tracker - Tracking, Notifications, Watchlist, RSS Alerts, Stats and more... | Warrior+Plus

Dave

[Allen Graves]

Originally Posted by Dave777

Bet you'll find a few more Ghostwriters With The Absolute Best Quality using the following resource if you do your homework well before choosing...
WSO Tracker - Tracking, Notifications, Watchlist, RSS Alerts, Stats and more... | Warrior+Plus

Dave

Thanks Dave,

I thought about that, but I wanted to get opinions of those who provide to the forum, rather than those who typically "follow" the writers and/or just frequent the WSO forum.

I did find a few WSO threads with some testimonials from "respected" warriors though.

Thanks!

Allen

[Swastik]

I've also used Tina Golden for one of my eBooks and her team produced some great work. Awesome communication and superb turnaround timings too! She gets my best recommendation.

[Daniel Scott]

Allen,

Check out CDarklock.

Some of the best writing I've seen here in a long, LONG time... and he's affordable, too.

Also has some knowledge of copywriting... which means his articles are very effective.

Check him out... he writes amazing stuff.

-Dan

[zapseo]

Sounds like a great topic for one of Allen's "all-in-one" threads -- how to choose a writer.

Choosing an appropriate writer depends upon what you need the writer for. (And whether you mind having sentences end in prepositions, the disallowing of which comes from some rather arbitrary and archaic rules.

I have to admit that attacking some of those "expert rating" tests had me keeping some grammar books by my bedside for night-time reading. (While I haven't read it, I've heard great things about "Eats shoot and leaves"; unfortunately, I've been reading more mundane tomes.)

Effective writing is writing that gets the point across. Proper grammar -- or someone's idea of proper grammar -- isn't the primary issue. The issue is -- does it communicate the intended message. That can happen in a number of ways. I remember being pulled in by Tom Wolfe's breaking all kinds of "grammar" rules in "The Right Stuff."

In fact, effective communication -- whether by words or through multi-media -- probably depends more upon understanding human perception than being on top of rules of grammar and being able to define and use a gerund phrase (for example) at the drop of a hat.

But if you are submitting to a scholarly journal, or writing a legal brief, or writing for the New York Times -- your writing will be different than if you are writing magazine articles for Cosmopolitan or direct response sales copy. (The main difference between these two populations has more to do with the presumption of writing something "objectively" versus using breezy, personal and emotional components to get the point across.)

Live JoyFully!

Judy Kettenhofen, Copywriter, writer, & "MarketersGeek"

[turbostar52]

I highly recommend Nicole Madison. Do a google for Madison Copywriting, and you should find her site.

Nick

[turbostar52]

Nicole Madison's site is www.madisoncopywriting.com

[Chris Thompson]

I second CDarlock. He has done some work for me and it was amazing.

[seobro]

The highest quality ghost writers I have found were name authors who are willing to do some work on the side. They charge a lot. However, for big biz, it is not that much if they need quality content.

Sadly, many people on the internet want to pay fifty cents an hour and later complain about the poor quality. You get what you pay for.

[Allen Graves]

Originally Posted by Kingdom_Mines

There is one i use, helpful and effective but they are not cheap ($35), the conversions i get are good, considering i am selling high priced items such as precious gems, send me a pm, i will you their details

Ricky

Thanks Ricky, post it right here, unless they want to stay on the down low. I want everyone to know about the best authors out there,

Allen