a LOT of you STINK at selling

winebuddy · 09-07-2009, 06:56 PM

I have reviewed a LOT of sales and optin pages both from fellow warriors and from people off-forum.

Some of them absolutely suck and I wouldn't sign up if you paid me.

PEOPLE!

Get some copywriting training. PLEASE.

Although I have NO affiliation with the following, I highly recommend his work. After all, he wrote copy for the Christian Coalition and also was a speech writer for Ronald Reagan.

Hi name is Ben Hart.

If you haven't heard of him, you are missing out. He got into online marketing just to see if he could do it and is earning almost $40K a month within a couple of years.

Here is a link: www.BenHartMarketing.com

You can get a ton of his stuff for free.

Read it. Study it. USE IT. Because a lot of the copy I see out there is terrible.

His stuff has generated over $500million in sales. Must be something to it - right?

I used his follow-up emails as a template for my first autoresponder series and started making almost $100/day with a few weeks.

You can thank me now

p.s. before you flame me - I am not saying ALL optin or sales pages are bad - just a LOT of them. Your's is probably perfect.

zuluranger · 09-07-2009, 07:03 PM

Thanks for the recommendation.

Intrepreneur · 09-07-2009, 07:08 PM

I'd say that you may not always be right!

Sometimes copy just can't and won't have any affect on you due to it not being something you want!

When someone wants something..

Discover How You Can Have Your Chickens Farting Out The Best Healthy Chicken Eggs - Better Than Any Other Farmers - Guaranteed!

That strucute of headline alone, has be salughtered many times, and been remarked on as being a bad headline by some copywriters but truth be told, it is very effective!

Another truth is, that the salescopy can only do so much and all you can to do is be sincere, and do what Allen Says in his Private guide- I think it's in the warroom!

winebuddy · 09-07-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Intrepreneur

I'd say that you may not always be right!

Sometimes copy just can't and won't have any affect on you due to it not being something you want!

When someone wants something..

Discover How You Can Have Your Chickens Farting Out The Best Healthy Chicken Eggs - Better Than Any Other Farmers - Guaranteed!

That strucute of headline alone, has be salughtered many times, and been remarked on as being a bad headline by some copywriters but truth be told, it is very effective!

Another truth is, that the salescopy can only do so much and all you can to do is be sincere, and do what Allen Says in his Private guide- I think it's in the warroom!

You are absolutely right! I have no desire for farting chickens

That being said...

Check out some of the otpin pages you find online. Some of them do not apply the basic elements and lose optins and sales. That is a shame and they can get help here, or hire a copywriter here, or get training somewhere!

Just a rant... I've seen so many bad ones lately.

winebuddy · 09-07-2009, 07:57 PM

Here's my story: I had 12 followup email messages and was selling about a sale every 2 to 6 days. I copied (not precisely) the followup emails I received from this guy and I went to almost 5 sales a day overnight.

Then I started readin all his other free stuff.

If you are into IM, you NEED to be a student of copywriters - great, successful copywriters.

SurviveUnemployment · 09-07-2009, 08:06 PM

Well, if he was a speech writer for Reagan he must be a great writer -- he managed to sell a massive poopsicle to an entire nation.

Seriously, though, thanks for the recommendation. Those Christian Coalition guys are great salesmen. Anybody who can get people to send money because some sweaty greaseball on television is telling them it will get them to heaven is definitely someone who knows their stuff when it comes to selling.

I am going to check that guy's stuff out. He must be darn good. Thanks!

KenThompson · 09-07-2009, 08:20 PM

Oh my gawd. You have NO idea how long I've been
searching for farting chickens. Thank you!

winebuddy · 09-07-2009, 08:22 PM

Ken - the bad part was that he never EVER gave us the link!!!

Do you think he is building up to a new product launch?

Tune in next week - same BAT Time - Same Bat Channel

Jeff Henshaw · 09-07-2009, 09:20 PM

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Hell you may even end up buying something in which case its win-win for both parties!

Don't buy the chicken though - it's probably exhausted by now!

Jeff.

rbecgolf · 09-07-2009, 09:23 PM

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09-07-2009, 06:56 PM	#1
winebuddy I Make it Rain War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,979 Blog Entries: 10 Thanks: 537 Thanked 569 Times in 296 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	a LOT of you STINK at selling I have reviewed a LOT of sales and optin pages both from fellow warriors and from people off-forum. Some of them absolutely suck and I wouldn't sign up if you paid me. PEOPLE! Get some copywriting training. PLEASE. Although I have NO affiliation with the following, I highly recommend his work. After all, he wrote copy for the Christian Coalition and also was a speech writer for Ronald Reagan. Hi name is Ben Hart. If you haven't heard of him, you are missing out. He got into online marketing just to see if he could do it and is earning almost $40K a month within a couple of years. Here is a link: www.BenHartMarketing.com You can get a ton of his stuff for free. Read it. Study it. USE IT. Because a lot of the copy I see out there is terrible. His stuff has generated over $500million in sales. Must be something to it - right? I used his follow-up emails as a template for my first autoresponder series and started making almost $100/day with a few weeks. You can thank me now p.s. before you flame me - I am not saying ALL optin or sales pages are bad - just a LOT of them. Your's is probably perfect.
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09-07-2009, 07:03 PM	#2
zuluranger Active Warrior Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 76 Thanks: 11 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Contact Info	Re: Some people are just BAD at selling Thanks for the recommendation.

09-07-2009, 07:08 PM	#3
Intrepreneur I.C.Hope War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 2,515 Thanks: 446 Thanked 227 Times in 181 Posts Contact Info	Re: Some people are just BAD at selling I'd say that you may not always be right! Sometimes copy just can't and won't have any affect on you due to it not being something you want! When someone wants something.. Discover How You Can Have Your Chickens Farting Out The Best Healthy Chicken Eggs - Better Than Any Other Farmers - Guaranteed! That strucute of headline alone, has be salughtered many times, and been remarked on as being a bad headline by some copywriters but truth be told, it is very effective! Another truth is, that the salescopy can only do so much and all you can to do is be sincere, and do what Allen Says in his Private guide- I think it's in the warroom!
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09-07-2009, 07:57 PM	#5
winebuddy I Make it Rain War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,979 Blog Entries: 10 Thanks: 537 Thanked 569 Times in 296 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: a LOT of you STINK at selling Here's my story: I had 12 followup email messages and was selling about a sale every 2 to 6 days. I copied (not precisely) the followup emails I received from this guy and I went to almost 5 sales a day overnight. Then I started readin all his other free stuff. If you are into IM, you NEED to be a student of copywriters - great, successful copywriters.
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SurviveUnemployment Glad I Got Canned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NY Posts: 681 Thanks: 330 Thanked 61 Times in 57 Posts Social Networking	Re: a LOT of you STINK at selling Well, if he was a speech writer for Reagan he must be a great writer -- he managed to sell a massive poopsicle to an entire nation. Seriously, though, thanks for the recommendation. Those Christian Coalition guys are great salesmen. Anybody who can get people to send money because some sweaty greaseball on television is telling them it will get them to heaven is definitely someone who knows their stuff when it comes to selling. I am going to check that guy's stuff out. He must be darn good. Thanks!
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09-07-2009, 08:20 PM	#7
KenThompson . War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 700 Thanked 591 Times in 417 Posts	Re: a LOT of you STINK at selling Oh my gawd. You have NO idea how long I've been searching for farting chickens. Thank you!
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09-07-2009, 08:22 PM	#8
winebuddy I Make it Rain War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,979 Blog Entries: 10 Thanks: 537 Thanked 569 Times in 296 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: a LOT of you STINK at selling Ken - the bad part was that he never EVER gave us the link!!! Do you think he is building up to a new product launch? Tune in next week - same BAT Time - Same Bat Channel
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