Utah Call Centers as Back-End Closers?

The Oilman · 09-07-2009, 11:14 PM

First off -- why are there "Utah' call centers? Why are many hosted there?

Secondly, is there a service wher you can provide a lead and they pay you per lead? Please, dont direct me to Google. I want a nice source.

Or is ti easier just to outsource your own call center and pay them per close they make?

Anyone have some ins and outs of this?

I just want to get some of my people on the phone after I've sold to them for a bit.

Ken Preuss · 09-08-2009, 12:46 AM

Okay, here's the deal. The Utah call centers aren't the only ones, but they're typically the biggest. The most established ones are Prosper Learning and Mentoring of America, although you will certainly come across others - some of which may even be DBA's of one of these two.

I'm not aware of these companies paying up-front per lead, although some may do this. In my personal experience they want to sell high-end coaching programs, and they'll usually start out paying you 20-30% of every sale since they are selling and facilitating the entire coaching program (you simply get checks in the mail). The % they pay you can be negotiated up if your lead flow increases.

These companies rely on consistent and stable lead flow. That's because their salespeople are commission-only. So the only way they can make the deal work is if you are generating enough leads for them on a regular basis. (If you get really big sometimes they want to buy out a % of your operation and generate the leads themselves)

If you want a specific source I've got one - but only if you bring in *regular* leads on a weekly/monthly basis. This outfit isn't out of Utah, but sells for one of the Utah companies. They prefer real estate or internet marketing niches/sub-niches.

Again I'll only provide the contact if you have enough lead flow - don't want to waste your time or theirs.

Ken

TyBrown · 09-12-2009, 09:44 PM

Why are they hosted in Utah? Lots of reasons. You've got a large college population around a lot of these call centers. A lot of young college guys can go in and make high 5 figures to low 6 figures. The population is highly educated without big accents for the most part.

I used to work for a call center like that here in Utah. At the time (and currently from what I understand) we were calling infomercial leads.

I've heard that Russell Brunson is doing a lot of back end coaching for other IMers these days.

p2y · 09-12-2009, 11:07 PM

Utah is pretty much the center of the direct marketing industry, lots of wholesalers, dropshippers, call centers, and marketing companies are based out of there. I don't know why, but I always assumed that it was because the laws and regulations there are more favorable to those in those industries than other states.

Kirk Ward · 09-12-2009, 11:53 PM

The take I got was that the OP wanted to know more about someone closing sales on his products and services.

Do the firms you mentioned only close their own and pay you an affiliate commission?

Kirk

David Hooper · 09-13-2009, 01:43 AM

Don't let this stop you, if you think it will work for you, but here is something to keep in mind...

Mentoring of America | Better Business Bureau Review | American Fork, UT

and... Ripoff Report Search Results: Mentoring Of America

Not saying they're dishonest, but think about this before you put your own reputation on the line by dealing with them.

Steve Iser · 09-13-2009, 03:13 AM

A fair warning.

Most Utah floors like to f*ck you over. Just spilling the truth. I'd publically tell you which companies, but I'd probably run into legal trouble.

You MUST know what you're getting into.

They are crazy people.

kennykencaid · 09-13-2009, 08:15 AM

Most of them will shave your payout and Scr$w you over. Once you they have the leads they will call people and pretend to be U.

I have had customers call me and ask me about something that I promised to delivery.

I was cluesless about what was said.

Also they like to mail you checks that are wrong and not on time.

You would be better to do it in house and not outsource anything.

Thanks
Kenny

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Ken Preuss aka KRAZY KEN War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 627 Thanks: 130 Thanked 577 Times in 101 Posts Social Networking	Re: Utah Call Centers as Back-End Closers? Okay, here's the deal. The Utah call centers aren't the only ones, but they're typically the biggest. The most established ones are Prosper Learning and Mentoring of America, although you will certainly come across others - some of which may even be DBA's of one of these two. I'm not aware of these companies paying up-front per lead, although some may do this. In my personal experience they want to sell high-end coaching programs, and they'll usually start out paying you 20-30% of every sale since they are selling and facilitating the entire coaching program (you simply get checks in the mail). The % they pay you can be negotiated up if your lead flow increases. These companies rely on consistent and stable lead flow. That's because their salespeople are commission-only. So the only way they can make the deal work is if you are generating enough leads for them on a regular basis. (If you get really big sometimes they want to buy out a % of your operation and generate the leads themselves) If you want a specific source I've got one - but only if you bring in regular leads on a weekly/monthly basis. This outfit isn't out of Utah, but sells for one of the Utah companies. They prefer real estate or internet marketing niches/sub-niches. Again I'll only provide the contact if you have enough lead flow - don't want to waste your time or theirs. Ken
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kennykencaid Active Warrior Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Utah Call Centers as Back-End Closers? Most of them will shave your payout and Scr$w you over. Once you they have the leads they will call people and pretend to be U. I have had customers call me and ask me about something that I promised to delivery. I was cluesless about what was said. Also they like to mail you checks that are wrong and not on time. You would be better to do it in house and not outsource anything. Thanks Kenny