I made 100K today, added 10K to my list, landed a 50K a month offline gig...

Brian Cook

15 years ago

And here I was ready to congratulate you

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Jeremy Kelsall

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Brian Cook

And here I was ready to congratulate you

Brian

In that case, it's all true

Seriously, I went to the apple store to pick up a new iphone and while I was there Steve Jobs happened to be visiting the store. So, I asked him if they had an opt-in page on their website and he said no...So, I offered to put one up and explained to him how marketing worked.

Now, I'm the VP of apple and own 51% of the stock!

Then, I got an email from the stompernet Guys about the launch today and emailed them back because their email wasn't formatted correctly...Needless to say Brad Fallon hit me up on my cell phone and I now control their email marketing for which they are paying me 50K a month.

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TelegramSam

15 years ago

I get sick of the threads where people say something like:

"Help!!! I need to male $1,153 in the next 8 days or my dog starves".

This is a place to learn how to build a business. If you want to raise some quick cash, then flog something on ebay, mow someone's lawn, paint a house or donate sperm.

If they want to build a business then they need to stop posting crap on this site and learn and implement.

Nothing is easy. It can be painful at times, but eventually after burning enough midnight oil it is possible to build a nice business on the internet and living a much better lifestyle.

There are no quick-fix magic pills despite lots of people trying to sell you one, and lots of affiliates trying to make you believe they exist.

We all hope for one, but the reality is a little different.

Until the time comes when someone invents a pill that helps me stay young, have loads of energy, keeps the weight off, grows back my hair and at the same time puts money into my bank account, I will continue working hard and building businesses that I enjoy building.

Such a pill if it existed would take all the fun out of life, but even then there will still be people who screw up and won't even make a success at magic-pill-taking!!!

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Jeremy Kelsall

15 years ago

Originally Posted by TelegramSam

Nothing is easy. It can be painful at times, but eventually after burning enough midnight oil it is possible to build a nice business on the internet and living a much better lifestyle.

There are no quick-fix magic pills despite lots of people trying to sell you one.

Sam

Sam, to a degree, I agree with you

It probably isn't as easy as many people make it out to be - But, it's not nearly as hard as some would lead you to believe

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- Jeremy Kelsall 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Kingdom_Mines
  
  If you have an address to do this, please let me know the address so i can spread my joy around the world
  
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  Dude, I"ve been donating sperm forever! Last week, I donated 67 times and netted a cool 2K!
  
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  Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall
  
  Dude, I"ve been donating sperm forever! Last week, I donated 67 times and netted a cool 2K!
  
  Check out my sig for the whole story!
  
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  I will do it for you and we can split the profits 50-50
  
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  I don't think you mean that the way it sounds...
  
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  Dude, I"ve been donating sperm forever! Last week, I donated 67 times and netted a cool 2K!
  
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  Dude, I"ve been donating sperm forever! Last week, I donated 67 times and netted a cool 2K!
  
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  Dude, I"ve been donating sperm forever! Last week, I donated 67 times
  
  67 times in a week - wow man!
  
  Sadly due a 'snip' I can't do that at all nowadays
  
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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

In that case, it's all true

Seriously, I went to the apple store to pick up a new iphone and while I was there Steve Jobs happened to be visiting the store. So, I asked him if they had an opt-in page on their website and he said no...So, I offered to put one up and explained to him how marketing worked.

Now, I'm the VP of apple and own 51% of the stock!

Then, I got an email from the stompernet Guys about the launch today and emailed them back because their email wasn't formatted correctly...Needless to say Brad Fallon hit me up on my cell phone and I now control their email marketing for which they are paying me 50K a month.

LMFAO!

Wow, i would buy that WSO. The Secret meets Offline crack.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

In that case, it's all true

Seriously, I went to the apple store to pick up a new iphone and while I was there Steve Jobs happened to be visiting the store. So, I asked him if they had an opt-in page on their website and he said no...So, I offered to put one up and explained to him how marketing worked.

Now, I'm the VP of apple and own 51% of the stock!

Then, I got an email from the stompernet Guys about the launch today and emailed them back because their email wasn't formatted correctly...Needless to say Brad Fallon hit me up on my cell phone and I now control their email marketing for which they are paying me 50K a month.

AH, Man!

You beat my perfect life to me...

You're a star, Jez.

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Jagged

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

In that case, it's all true

Seriously, I went to the apple store to pick up a new iphone and while I was there Steve Jobs happened to be visiting the store. So, I asked him if they had an opt-in page on their website and he said no...So, I offered to put one up and explained to him how marketing worked.

Now, I'm the VP of apple and own 51% of the stock!

Then, I got an email from the stompernet Guys about the launch today and emailed them back because their email wasn't formatted correctly...Needless to say Brad Fallon hit me up on my cell phone and I now control their email marketing for which they are paying me 50K a month.

Forgot to mention the part about when you walked out of the Apple Store & bumped into Megan Fox....who whispered in your ear that she wants to be the mother of your children....:p

Honestly....ever notice most of those threads are closely followed by a WSO....go figure

They figure once they are seen as an authority figure, it will sell more WSO's.

I stepped in dog crap once....doesn't make me an authority in dog crap...

*there are a couple of legit threads...but it's really easy to spot the "self promotional" one's...

JMO,
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Jeremy Kelsall

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jagged

Forgot to mention the part about when you walked out of the Apple Store & bumped into Megan Fox....who whispered in your ear that she wants to be the mother of your children....:p

She told me not to say anything - She didn't want it in the tabloids!

Thanks for outing us!

At least you didn't bring up the part about Jessica Alba being there too though.

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Then, I got an email from the stompernet Guys about the launch today and emailed them back because their email wasn't formatted correctly...Needless to say Brad Fallon hit me up on my cell phone and I now control their email marketing for which they are paying me 50K a month.

I wouldn't waste any time cashing those checks if I were you.

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Sonja

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

And was invited to speak at a local college to a business class at which time I was given an honorary degree and a check for 250K to become a member of their staff!

Jeremy Jeremy Jeremy....you were a naughty boy to do that. When I read the subject line I thought "oh boy, he's done with the bootcamps now"! There goes my man!

Originally Posted by la dominatrix

I get $34,9675. 24 every time I donate sperm!!!!!!!!!!

La dominatrix

Whew! That must be some baaaaaadd (good) stuff with golden nuggets that you are packing

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And here all I was thinking was "I didn't know Jeremy does offline stuff."
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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

In that case, it's all true

Seriously, I went to the apple store to pick up a new iphone and while I was there Steve Jobs happened to be visiting the store. So, I asked him if they had an opt-in page on their website and he said no...So, I offered to put one up and explained to him how marketing worked.

Now, I'm the VP of apple and own 51% of the stock!

Then, I got an email from the stompernet Guys about the launch today and emailed them back because their email wasn't formatted correctly...Needless to say Brad Fallon hit me up on my cell phone and I now control their email marketing for which they are paying me 50K a month.

Talking about going into an apple store, did you hear about the following earlier this month! A New Jersey Apple store was hit by a smash-and-grab robbery that took only 31 seconds to complete...

You'd think that Steve Jobs and company would have a much more sophisticated security system in place to prevent these kind of events. Should be an interesting disposal of apple goods products happening somewhere locally or online pretty soon. So much for insurance rates etc. at that particular store...
Apple Store Robbed In New Jersey In 30 Seconds, Caught On Tape (VIDEO)

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SurviveUnemployment

15 years ago

Rant away! I enjoyed it.

As for me, I've made $43 (so far) today, and I spent most of the day flying a kite at the park!

Pretty impressive, huh!

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Lance K

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Anyone else noticing an influx of these types of posts?

Yes. IMO, if someone's just looking for an 'atta boy (or girl) they outta save that stuff for the off topic forum and their sig files.

If they want to detail their process (or even just part of it) so those that care about how they did it can get some value out of the post, then I say have at it.

Regardless, I generally don't view those types of threads. The only reason I looked at this one is because you wrote it and I was pretty sure a rant was coming. (Like I said, I've noticed an influx of those threads too.)

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HeySal 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Lance K

Yes. IMO, if someone's just looking for an 'atta boy (or girl) they outta save that stuff for the off topic forum and their sig files.

HEY - why do people always want to send that trash to the OT? There's a lot of us in there that don't really want trash cluttering up that place either.
Rather than tell them to put garbage in the OT - tell them to put the garbage on a sales page and run it over to a traffic exchange or something where it won't be noticed.
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Kelly Verge

15 years ago

Jeremy, the thing that's missing is the signature that leads to your product teaching how others can do it. Of course, the $250k should be mentioned in the link...

i.e. Learn Exactly How I Made $250,000 in 3 Minutes...and How You Can Too!

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jacktackett

15 years ago

Rats, was looking forward to congratulating you and then hitting you up for a donation ;-)

--Jack

Damn - now you tell me, I must have let a small fortune slip though my hands.....

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Steadyon 15 years ago

Originally Posted by jacktackett

Damn - now you tell me, I must have let a small fortune slip though my hands.....

Too much information
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Originally Posted by jacktackett

Damn - now you tell me, I must have let a small fortune slip though my hands.....

Hahahahaha LMAO!
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LegitIncomes

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

And was invited to speak at a local college to a business class at which time I was given an honorary degree and a check for 250K to become a member of their staff!

Really?!?!?

Anyone else noticing an influx of these types of posts?

Someone all the sudden becomes uber guru over night and is suddenly an expert in every facet of Internet Marketing and business in general.

Not only that but they are the masters of "me too" - You can make a post about anything, create any product, and they just follow people around saying "me too" or "I've been doing that for months"...

I don't really have a point I guess...Just more of a semi-rant than anything else as I've been noticing this more and more lately...

Reading the title I thought this was going to be one of those "but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night" jokes.

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15 years ago

man and i thought i did good making 82k today!

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15 years ago

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Dan.Thies

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

And was invited to speak at a local college to a business class at which time I was given an honorary degree and a check for 250K to become a member of their staff!

"me too"

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Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

And was invited to speak at a local college to a business class at which time I was given an honorary degree and a check for 250K to become a member of their staff!

Me too!

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TristanPerry

15 years ago

Yeah I agree - it seems that there's loads of posts like this coming up recently.

It's probably just people wanting to feel self-important?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises

I don't think so. It's so they can make the newer people think they are important, develop a following and either sell them products they've pulled out of their *** or coaching or both.

Tina

Hmm possibly. Or a combination of both.

Certainly, I wouldn't buy off someone who makes up income claims (hence for me I couldn't logically understand why someone would make such a thread solely to develop a following), but I see what you are saying.

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Jeremy Kelsall

15 years ago

Originally Posted by TristanPerry

Hmm possibly. Or a combination of both.

Certainly, I wouldn't buy off someone who makes up income claims (hence for me I couldn't logically understand why someone would make such a thread solely to develop a following), but I see what you are saying.

How would you know they are making up the income claims?

Several people have already proven to be pretty damn good at faking a screen shot or even logging into an account - and it not be legitimate.

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Steven Wagenheim 15 years ago

You know, we're all having a good laugh over this but the truth is, it's a
serious problem.

John Doe comes to forum...makes outrageous claims.

Jane Smith PMs him asking for help.

John Doe offers to mentor Jane Smith for $5,000 a month.

Jane Smith takes John Doe up on offer and pays money...in advance.

30 days later, Jane Smith learns nothing useful and goes to bitch-away dot
com and complains that she was ripped off by this guy.

The names have been changed to protect the innocent and the guilty
but the above is NOT a theoretical situation. It has happened here more
times than you know. The people who have perpetrated these frauds know
who they are as do the poor people who have been duped and those of
us who could have told them that John Doe was a crook from the start.

I'll leave it at that.

Point is...you have to be VERY, VERY careful about what you believe
around here.

So, here's some tips to help you.

Whenever somebody makes some kind of claim, if they don't use their
real name in the forum, ask them for it if you're thinking of getting
mentored by them. If they won't give it...stay away..far away. Most
likely, they don't want you to know who they are.

If they're brazen enough to actually USE their real name, they probably
figure that you won't take the time to do a little research on them. How
do I know? Because I've been there...trusting and stupid.

Go to Google. Look up the name plus the word scam.

If there is dirt out there, you'll find it.

Now I'm not talking about one isolated complaint like one of our trusted
members here had about a week or so ago or that BS that somebody
posted about the owner of this forum. You're always going to find those
just looking to start trouble. No, I'm talking about a series of complaints
that are a big red flag that something is wrong.

If you don't find anything, ask for references. If they give you that BS
about confidentiality, don't buy it. That's the same BS I was fed when
told not to let anybody know that I was working with this person.

Big, big mistake.

I learned a lot from the experience.

Never, and I mean NEVER take anything at face value.

Demand irrefutable proof of their success.

Hopefully, this will keep at least one person from being taken advantage of.
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15 years ago

I agree completely I have also seen many posts like this coming up just recently on here also

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Jason_V

15 years ago

Wow,

The hypocrisy sure is flowing through this thread. Some of the same people taking pot shots at these kinds of posts in this thread are the very same names who I often see who hit the "Thanks" button in the very threads that are being trashed here.

Ain't it funny

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Killer Joe 15 years ago

That's nothing Jeremy, I spent $100,000 today, unsubscribed from 10,000 lists and signed up for a $50,000 a month continuity program.

It's amazing what you can accomplish in only 5 minutes on the phone with Frank Kern.

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  Jeremy -
  
  I spent a couple minutes reading a 78 pages from Marlon Sanders. The first 30 pages were nothing more than proof. Photos, screenshots, etc basically showing us that we should listen to him because he has been there / done that.
  
  When I am looking for someone to help me I look for proof. My personal trainer is 135 pound MMA champ, not a 350 pound couch potato.
  
  So if you're looking for a mentor get proof before the pudding. Allso and this is just me, if the person is selling "offlline" services yet they have 13 WSO's I think they are making money online and not offline.
  
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  That's nothing Jeremy, I spent $100,000 today, unsubscribed from 10,000 lists and signed up for a $50,000 a month continuity program.
  
  Don't forget to send me your transaction ID and I'll send out your bonuses...
  
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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

And was invited to speak at a local college to a business class at which time I was given an honorary degree and a check for 250K to become a member of their staff!

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

In that case, it's all true

Seriously, I went to the apple store to pick up a new iphone and while I was there Steve Jobs happened to be visiting the store. So, I asked him if they had an opt-in page on their website and he said no...So, I offered to put one up and explained to him how marketing worked.

Now, I'm the VP of apple and own 51% of the stock!

Then, I got an email from the stompernet Guys about the launch today and emailed them back because their email wasn't formatted correctly...Needless to say Brad Fallon hit me up on my cell phone and I now control their email marketing for which they are paying me 50K a month.

Seriously, that's all? Slacker...:p

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Maria Gudelis 15 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

Seriously, that's all? Slacker...:p

ROFL John!!! Too damn funny....burns my butt too when you get the calls from people who paid good money to the 'OMG expert", got no results and need your help....

...or worse - they want YOU to train the people they paid to learn how to do it right!!! urghhhhhhhh.....seriously!

....hmmm...think we should collectively publish a book called "The ______ Sluts"....
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Tom Brite

15 years ago

You know jeremy i actually wondered what amazing product of yours i had missed to make you all that money so quickly!

Shame there isn't one but maybe one day soon hey!

But you do have a very valid point and it makes the people who actually have done those things or whatever look like all the rest which isn't good.

Tom Brite

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drmani

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Just more of a semi-rant than anything else as I've been noticing this more and more lately...

Jeremy, some of us rant on our blogs

Here's mine, posted a week back:

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If They Tell You...

Last week, just as has happened many times in the past, I saw someone say this on a forum discussion:

"XYZ pulled in $1.3 million from {Product Name} launch alone"

... and my instinctive reaction is:

"Yeah? And you know that because:

a. He showed you the wads of cash lying around his house
b. His income tax returns filed with the IRS revealed that data
c. You saw his bank statement, or viewed his account details

Or is it because:

a. You were gullible enough to believe everything you hear
b. You are used to trusting someone's word based on no evidence
c. You had an expert influence you with wickedly powerful tactics

Over the years, I have heard sad stories of so many people who were scammed out of their hard-earned money.

And the saddest part is that it could have been avoided by following a simple, three-word mantra:

"Trust, but VERIFY!"

If they tell you they're making thousands of sales, and pulling in millions of dollars, watch if everything else they say and do is consistent with that.

If they tell you they have a decade of experience or more, see if what they teach you suggests those years have taught them valuable lessons.

If they tell you about their vast network, great systems, or large staff, ask yourself if the way they deal with you reflects it.

And whenever there is lack of congruence, watch out!

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It links to another post from a few weeks ago, about "congruence" - which is
what Steven W. highlights in his post above.

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George Sepich

15 years ago

It's all part of the fake it until you make it crowd. What happens is they fake it for a while, then actually make it, then they get overconfident and want everybody to know that they made it, but not know that they faked it.

Then you have those that fake it, still haven't made it, and fake being overconfident because they know that some of the above actually do this, and they copy them.

Confusing yes, but sadly true.

George

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Jill Carpenter

15 years ago

Big whoop.

I bought my friend a $30 go phone today cause he dropped his qwerty phone in the toilet and the nuked it to dry it off (shocked when it didn't work), then I bought a fancy mini box of merlot at the A&P which I drank and got some chalupas and the 89 cent gordita from taco bell.

Oh, just got a chime in that someone new signed up to my list.

So there.

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Jeremy Kelsall

15 years ago

Originally Posted by avenuegirl

Big whoop.

I bought my friend a $30 go phone today cause he dropped his qwerty phone in the toilet and the nuked it to dry it off (shocked when it didn't work), then I bought a fancy mini box of merlot at the A&P which I drank and got some chalupas and the 89 cent gordita from taco bell.

Oh, just got a chime in that someone new signed up to my list.

So there.

lmao

Maybe it is the medicine I'm on - But, that was funny as hell right there!

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AndrewCavanagh 15 years ago

What you forgot to do was say that:

# It required NO work and NO skill at all.

# You never had to talk to anyone or contact anyone in any way.

# All you had to do was sit on the beach and watch the money roll in.

And of course in your signature you have a WSO which explains step by step your method which mysteriously is completely untested, unproven...despite your claims...and no one ever seems to make any real money at all using it.

There are a whole pile of people who want to claim to be experts after having one small success.

Experience teaches you that one success is most likely luck and is probably not going to be repeated.

The people who make it long term have endured MANY failures and enjoyed repeated sucess.

And those who are teaching successfully have helped a LOT of people make money and know from experience what will work for others and what is likely to be a waste of time.

It really is great that people share their successes on this forum and in many cases some of the ideas are really cool...even if they are untested.

But you need to be aware of both the business experience and the teaching/mentoring experience of people you take advice from.

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Andy Money 15 years ago

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MikeHumphreys

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

And was invited to speak at a local college to a business class at which time I was given an honorary degree and a check for 250K to become a member of their staff!

So in other words, it was a slow uneventful day at the office for you.

Kudos on starting this thread. Hopefully it opens a few eyes for the less experienced Warriors on how to separate the truth from fiction.

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Justin1

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

And was invited to speak at a local college to a business class at which time I was given an honorary degree and a check for 250K to become a member of their staff!

Really?!?!?

Anyone else noticing an influx of these types of posts?

Someone all the sudden becomes uber guru over night and is suddenly an expert in every facet of Internet Marketing and business in general.

Not only that but they are the masters of "me too" - You can make a post about anything, create any product, and they just follow people around saying "me too" or "I've been doing that for months"...

I don't really have a point I guess...Just more of a semi-rant than anything else as I've been noticing this more and more lately...

Well I was ready to congratulate you lol

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The Copy Nazi

Banned 15 years ago

Mate, that's nothing. I got 508k uniques to my blog in May...cookie-stuffed the crap out of them and now I'm sitting on the beach at St Tropez with a martini in one hand and a French babe in the other. Just waiting to go out on Brad and Angelina's new yacht. :p

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DyLan Lee

15 years ago

I am here to congrats you.. mind to share more.. ready to learn...

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The Copy Nazi Banned 15 years ago

Originally Posted by DyLan Lee

I am here to congrats you.. mind to share more.. ready to learn...

Yeah me too man...how did you do it? That's a lot of scratch in one day. You gonna release a WSO on it? Put me down for a copy if you do.

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ManieE

15 years ago

To me that is a sign of a scam artist

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acrasial

15 years ago

Some people are so used to fabricating things on their sales pages, creating things that make people buy, and using a marketing mind... that well... they even carry this on into places that are not their websites...like here. Honestly, I never trust alot of these products these days, and what they "CLAIM" to do, as well as not trusting these people who "CLAIM" to make this amount or that amount. Another fishy thing you will notice, is that they also never include the whole page in the screenshot... What I mean by this, is even if they include some sort of screenshot, it's only the area that shows the sales amount, and there is actually a key you can use on clickbank and other websites to edit the page; which means i can literally change my stats to appear to be 14,000$ on monday, 1300$ on tuesday etc... So really- there are alot of people who do this, and presume the rest of us are as gullable as their customers.. But as you just proved, some of us are not>>>

BUt all of that aside, there are some people who really do such, and have real screenshots *(in full and not altered), to show for it, and one of those people I noted was "Eben Pagan"...when showing his stats, he goes through everything in a video, and doesn't alter anything, so there's one person who is at least believable and making that amount... from rags to riches... but of course it is more rare...

Personally I haven't made such huge bucketloads of money, and have previously posted elsewhere my progress, but I didn't sit there saying I met steve jobs either!

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Vyliss

15 years ago

Yea you got me...

I try to ignore those claims, like who cares anyway, unless they have something worthwhile to contribute, they're only hurting their own reputation when they make false claims like that.

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