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do follow lists - whats the problem and possible solutions

by TheRookie
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I posted this on another marketing forum as well and want opinions from warriors as well.

I know people have put these up all over and I understand they are hard to keep up on but jeez.

Everytime I find one they arent dofollow, the links don't work or both or whatever. Usually some work but a ton wont.

Im talking a dofollow list of each of these types..

social bookmarking
blogs
forums
article submisson sites
social networks
and other general backlink sites

I put together a site that had a list of all of those, but it was really small. I was planning on promoting it, the main reason I did it, was not really to make money although that would have been nice. It was to have the list to work off with links so I can just run through them all for each sites promotion.

members could add to it, (Ive thought about making it wiki so they can change the info as well like pr dofollow etc.)

The main reason to let members add is there are so many and it would be nice to have a huge resource but this just adds too much spam. (especially allowing them to edit existing ones.)

What do the warriors think, should I bring it back (they are still their just no promotion) Maybe give members, like members from warriorforum and others that pm me the ability to add and edit, if they abuse it they lose editing rights and maybe viewing rights.

Should I keep the list private only to members (members with the right privelages) etc. Any thoughts.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRookie
    Originally Posted by FifthDimension5 View Post

    I think google has already said recently they are ignoring dofollow and nofollow, google algorithm will determine what it thinks a link is worth, by itself, regardless of it is marked nofollow etc. Thats the way how it should be. I am not sure, this is also the topic of pagerank sculpting. If you are particular about dofollow links search for 'dofollow diver' which lists collections of sites from where you can get dofollow links.
    Well, one of matt cutts most recent videos on his blog. I believe its on the first page of his blog still. I saw it today. Ayways he talks about some things and still mentions that google does not count nofollow at all. His example was wikipedia. They don't count any of their links towards adding pr or boosting serps. At least the nofollow links. They do count the dofollow or really the non nofollow links. (his point was even that wikipedia would def be considered high authority any links dont count.)

    Another point was that digg has now gone nofollow on a bunch of their external links.
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    Originally Posted by FifthDimension5 View Post

    I think google has already said recently they are ignoring dofollow and nofollow, google algorithm will determine what it thinks a link is worth, by itself, regardless of it is marked nofollow etc. Thats the way how it should be. I am not sure, this is also the topic of pagerank sculpting. If you are particular about dofollow links search for 'dofollow diver' which lists collections of sites from where you can get dofollow links.

    I will look up nofollow diver though.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRookie
    Originally Posted by FifthDimension5 View Post

    I think google has already said recently they are ignoring dofollow and nofollow, google algorithm will determine what it thinks a link is worth, by itself, regardless of it is marked nofollow etc. Thats the way how it should be. I am not sure, this is also the topic of pagerank sculpting. If you are particular about dofollow links search for 'dofollow diver' which lists collections of sites from where you can get dofollow links.

    The dofollow diver is pretty good. Thanks for the info. Do you know of any ways to look for the same with articles and other types of sites.

    Thanks again.
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  • Profile picture of the author birdfood
    Interesting post.

    Does any one have a confirmation on whether google currently ignores do follow/no follow?

    Be silly to use a lot of time searching for follow links when they are all good.
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    Interesting post.

    Does any one have a confirmation on whether google currently ignores do follow/no follow?

    Be silly to use a lot of time searching for follow links when they are all good.
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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    I think that the SE's will still follow the link to your site, they don't pass on any PR with a nofollow tag.

    That means that a link from highprsite.com won't pass along any more PR than crappyoldsite.com.

    However the SE's are more likely to find your link on highprsite.com than they would on the latter.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRookie
      The last post has it, I do think they will crawl the sites through nofollow but no credit is given as a backlink.. And, like I was saying matt cutts just said that nofollow links are still no good and google has no intention of changing this.

      Now I know matt cutts could be lying but regardless he is one of googles main guys and what he says is usually good to go off of.
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  • Profile picture of the author naphets66
    It is hard to keep a list of sites like these together because they always seem to change and the more sites you have in the list, the more inaccurate the list becomes.

    And Google does count dofollow. They just took any advantage away for a webmaster to make a link nofollow. A nofollow link splits the link juice but does not pass it. A nofollow link still counts for nothing if you are the one getting the link. But as far as other links on the page are concerned, that nofollow link takes away some of the juice they could have had.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRookie
      Originally Posted by naphets66 View Post

      It is hard to keep a list of sites like these together because they always seem to change and the more sites you have in the list, the more inaccurate the list becomes.

      And Google does count dofollow. They just took any advantage away for a webmaster to make a link nofollow. A nofollow link splits the link juice but does not pass it. A nofollow link still counts for nothing if you are the one getting the link. But as far as other links on the page are concerned, that nofollow link takes away some of the juice they could have had.

      Its hard to keep a list --- I agree thats why I am considering making my list wiki style and only to select people? A t least for changes. Still would have issues im sure.

      A nofollow sink still counts for nothing or something. Not sure what you meant on that.

      Thanks for the replies
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    Every time I see one of these threads it makes me want to turn all the links here to nofollow.

    Not because of what google does or doesn't do, but because it would stop so many from signing up just to put links in here..
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRookie
      Originally Posted by admin View Post

      Every time I see one of these threads it makes me want to turn all the links here to nofollow.

      Not because of what google does or doesn't do, but because it would stop so many from signing up just to put links in here..

      I would still be here either way, the dofollow links are a good bonus. I have bought a couple wso's and found this site pretty useful. Maybe better than the other big forum.


      I still would like to see a few good sources for the dofollow stuff though.
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