by Quilst
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I have been doing some market and keyword research and discovered the most common thing about the users in that niche. Everyone are looking for a way to cheat.

I was thinking doing articles for the cheats saying something like:
There is no latest fix for your lack of skill in World of warcraft. All those cheating will only result in getting your account banned for cheating. I have a secret formula that is legal and can guarantee you millions of gold in wow the xxxxxxx(link)

Will this approach convert or will they just click away from my article?
Any suggestions or insights would be much apriciated

Thank you warriors
#good #niche #world of warcraft niche #wow
  • Profile picture of the author Eric Johnson
    I checked into it before and some keywords do get decent traffic but the competition is ridiculous scary. I stayed away
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    • Profile picture of the author Zach Booker
      A few years ago I actually tried this niche...made around a thousand dollars, but as mentioned before the competion is insane for the amount of traffic the keywords get.
      I only got 5 refunds if memory serves right, even though I sold near 100 of the e-book.


      You have to remeber the people that play WoW pay each month for a membership as well. So that means that they do have money, and are willing to do anything just to get ahead in the game! WoW is like a drug to the players...scary but true:|

      So conclusion time, They have money so maybe make a squeeze page get some names and start firing off some emails and make sure every one of the WoW'ers buys from you
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  • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
    The only way to find out for sure is to try it. I know there's a ton of competition; that means there's money there. What could you lose if you spend a little time exploring whether your idea works or not? If we're just talking article marketing...at worst, a little bit of time. Write 5 or 10 articles and see if you get a good response. If you do, scale up and write a lot more articles.
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    • Profile picture of the author Marian Berghes
      actually...if you know what keywords to target there isn't that much competition... i have keywords that result in only 200-300.000 sites...and in my opinion that isn't much.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ricter
        I bought an ebook for that game. How to level. And I don't buy anything, lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author Quilst
    Thank you all for a great response!

    Wow so many points of view. I do need a insight from people who been there.
    Lol maybe the ones who do make descent money in the niche are just lurking this thread and smiling

    I can't wait for my JV partner returns with the articles.

    I think that people do have a question for this game
    Can you rule the world of Warcraft?

    You can presell/sell just about any cure you have for a disase named gaming.
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Ayres
    I personally have made a lot of money promoting WOW affiliate products.
    so i think it is a good niche to target
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  • Profile picture of the author MarcusXavier
    i also have made and still do make a nice chunk of change promoting WOW products.

    it's a very competitive niche, but competition is a good thing. competition means that there's money being made. so all you have to do is find out your angle and get in there.

    plus, the consumers in this niche are rabid buyers. these kinds of people LOVE their hobby. so if you know how to market to them and actually give them something of value, they will buy from you and love you for selling to them.
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  • Profile picture of the author James B. Allen
    There were over 10 million World of Warcraft subscribers as of Jan. of this year.

    Two points:
    • 10 Million (a lot of people in this market)
    • Subscribers (with credit cards who gladly pay a monthly fee... to play a game)
    Here's an understatement.

    "It's a good niche."

    I know from experience that even some of the Clickbank "Warcraft Gold" type guides convert well.

    Plenty of room for more too - plenty of money for everyone.

    Why?

    Did I mention these two points?


    • 10 Million (a lot of people in this market)
    • Subscribers (with credit cards who gladly pay a monthly fee... to play a game)
    LOL

    Sincerely,

    James B. Allen
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  • Profile picture of the author MarcusXavier
    exactly my point James B.

    WOW players are already spend money to play the game. And from personal experience, they will spend a TON of money to be the best at their game.
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  • Profile picture of the author fm1234
    I'm heavily into the MMORPG market myself -- have been for years. I've had a lot more luck with services for players and offline goods than on info products, memberships and other intangibles (weird, given that the whole premise of the MMORPG is that it's an intangible make believe world.) Companies like FigurePrints.com are going to be the next ones making bank off of WoW and other fantasy game players.


    Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author Angela V. Edwards
    Game cheats are BIG business. The problem is, you can find most game cheats online for free. I don't think this approach will do much converting, unfortunately.

    Originally Posted by Quilst View Post

    I have been doing some market and keyword research and discovered the most common thing about the users in that niche. Everyone are looking for a way to cheat.

    I was thinking doing articles for the cheats saying something like:
    There is no latest fix for your lack of skill in World of warcraft. All those cheating will only result in getting your account banned for cheating. I have a secret formula that is legal and can guarantee you millions of gold in wow the xxxxxxx(link)

    Will this approach convert or will they just click away from my article?
    Any suggestions or insights would be much apriciated

    Thank you warriors
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    • Profile picture of the author ripsnorta2
      And game cheats don't really apply to World of Warcraft.

      Most game cheats for single player games are tolerated or encouraged by the game developers, and simply show players how to use the built in cheat codes, or provide walkthroughs.

      MMOGs on the other hand, especially WoW, actively track down and punish players who are caught cheating (more commonly known as exploiting.) There was a recent court case, found in Blizzard's favor, where a company known as WoW Glider was sued for providing botting software.

      If you have a website promoting exploits, don't be surprised if Blizzard try and shut you down.

      The products that do better though, are the guides. There are a number of digital leveling and gold farming guides for WoW and other MMORPGs that seem to do okay. At least they have been around, and are updated, year to year and expansion to expansion.

      I'd also suggest setting up a blog and come up with some tangible products like t-shirts and mugs. MMOGers love their games and often buy products associated with it.

      Another option would be to keep clear of the over-saturated World of Warcraft market. Warhammer Online has just been released and there is potential for it to be the next big game.

      Why not be the first to market with some guides for WAR?
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  • Profile picture of the author logosi
    excellent niche, but find a sub niche to dominate, just WoW and it will be tough.
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  • Profile picture of the author Quilst
    I digg you crowd. Maybe an approach for cheats is not that good. I have a good friend of mine who runs a private WoW server and we spoke for several hours. Now I know where all the buzz and fuzz is in WoW.

    Btw. Cheaters cannot cheat an all servers - many servers have protection against cheats. There is a server that will even push Blizzard's main server from the game when it comes to number of players using it.

    I think I can come up with my own products to sell. All I need is more time with my good friend to come up with something interesting.

    For all of you checking out WoW here's a nice link:
    Wowhead: We've got more style than a fashion designer who knows CSS.
    Database of all stuff available in WoW

    Good thing I'we spend so many years playing on my computer. Now all those years will finally make some sense.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stanley Tang
    yeah. probably the best gaming niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author PRandContent
    I've been selling a lot of article packs on this niche. So yup, this one's a very profitable niche
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    • Profile picture of the author Sarah Harvey
      WoW is an excellent niche but I wouldn't advise you to try and compete with the players. To put it blunt. I am a part of the online gaming arena and most of the better WoW cheat sites and ebooks are all written by players, and to be honest, there is nothing legal you could tell me about making a lot of gold in WoW. Everyone knows how to get gold the usual way and seriously, if you play the game you will be on the official WoW forum and know there are tons of guides on this already. Every angle has already been covered.
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      • Profile picture of the author Marian Berghes
        sarah... i can bet that 70% of the people that just start WoW, maybe more, have no clue of what to do. I've played WoW for a long time before i noticed that it's a waste of time and believe me..from a newbies point of view, not many of those guides on the forum make a lot of sense.
        Also, WoW it's not exactly the easiest game to understand, so people are looking for step by step methods. And the guides that are on clickbank, most of them, are made by real wow players.... some of them that i have had the opportunity to play with.
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      • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
        Originally Posted by Sarah Harvey View Post

        WoW is an excellent niche but I wouldn't advise you to try and compete with the players. To put it blunt. I am a part of the online gaming arena and most of the better WoW cheat sites and ebooks are all written by players, and to be honest, there is nothing legal you could tell me about making a lot of gold in WoW. Everyone knows how to get gold the usual way and seriously, if you play the game you will be on the official WoW forum and know there are tons of guides on this already. Every angle has already been covered.
        Just because they've already been covered doesn't mean there isn't an in for you... but maybe you could look at things like getting ready to take advantage of the Wrath of the Lich King expansion coming out on the 13th of November or have bonuses like helping people organize raids or something. I don't really play WoW but I know it can be a time-consuming, frustrating experience. Find those problems and offer an easy way to solve them and you could be in the market for a lot of cash.

        Whilst Warhammer Online looks big, nothing is going to topple WoW. 10 million subs mean they have the competition bagged up, especially when WotLK comes out.

        Can it be done? Yes. Is it a good niche? Probably. Will it be easy? Unlikely.

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        • Profile picture of the author Quilst
          Originally Posted by Daniel Scott View Post

          Whilst Warhammer Online looks big, nothing is going to topple WoW. 10 million subs mean they have the competition bagged up, especially when WotLK comes out.
          -Dan
          Speaking of other games comming up I can't wait for starcraft 2 to show up. Still playing starcraft brood war and I can say I am pretty good at the game
          I saw number of downloads for starcraft movie trailer - number of downloads 5,000,000+ on that site :O - I think this will be a huge comeback for starcraft as well.

          Will it be tough you said. There is tons of competition and I don't mind that at all. I had some experience with doing 3d studio tutorials and everybody was searching for something simplified, so I made it sooo simple - hit the 10k views on youtube and had about 100 subscribers - Believe that's the key for making a good product for your niche.

          JMHO
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    Slightly off-topic, but remember that the guys who made the original Starcraft, except Metzen, mostly all jumped ship to Flagship Studios.

    So SC2 may not be nearly as good as we hope. Fingers crossed though.

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    • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
      I think WOW is an awesome niche and partly the reason for this is because it has a market that are already paying to play the game so they will spend more to level their player or get more gold etc...

      I have seen WOW accounts solde for upwards of $800 just so someone levels them up!

      Never understood why you would pay someone to play the game but this just goes to prove how good the niche is.

      Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author Quilst
    For brainstorming purposes let's just state that there are a lot of gaps that can bi filled but if you capture just one and perfected it to the level of game guru it could very possibly convert well when it comes to sales.

    If you make your site a game for the user you could probably have a ongoing customer and that is what I think should be focusing on.
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