Advice please - how would you market an intensive course/holiday online?

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A web developer friend of mine is attending a coding course in Bali, basically you go to Bali for an intensive 10-day course and you are able to soak up a bit of a holiday at the same time. The price point is around $3,500.

She is keen to set up her own course but for small businesses to teach them how to make websites once she gets back so she can replicate the offering but to a different audience.

I'm interested in helping her develop a digital marketing strategy, I think eMarketing would be best - or would it?

The price point is actually a good deal - you get a 10 day course, accommondation, food, a holiday essentially and a website built while you are away on the course with support staff and trainers. The target market would be a wide variety of age groups, however I doubt there would be anyone under 25.

How would you market this online? I'm interested if anyone has any ideas for something like this as it's a little different to marketing a lower end product or service...
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  • Profile picture of the author alldigitalbiz
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      This is perhaps more effectively marketed offline. A common approach is typically not marketed for its educational value, but rather as an excuse for taking vacations with a tax write-off.

      For example, Las Vegas and other gambling destinations or exoctic locations catering to business venues can be promoted to local business owners along with a fairly lean content.
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  • Profile picture of the author customerblast
    Well, since this is a coding course you definitely want to be targeting people who are looking to learn coding as your first thought. IM forums such as this one might be helpful, or perhaps forums more dedicated to learning code specifically? This would be a good place to start. Sounds fun I've been to Bali twice now and loved it!
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  • Profile picture of the author gingerninjas
    I agree Facebook advertising could be a good place to start - you can target your audience really well and you'll probably find you will get some good leads.

    The only way is to test it and see.

    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author TeaCozy
    Ok, I will recommend to her a combination of Facebook advertising and also some offline advertising.

    I think personally contact warm leads or people who have shown interest in a website but have decided to hold off could be a great idea

    The idea of a tax break holiday is very appealing, and I know you wouldn't have to twist my arm too much to get me to Bali that's for sure.

    Thanks for all your input.
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    • Profile picture of the author triony
      Originally Posted by TeaCozy View Post

      Ok, I will recommend to her a combination of Facebook advertising and also some offline advertising.
      What offline advertising do you mean?
      Just want to know.
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      • Profile picture of the author TeaCozy
        Originally Posted by triony View Post

        What offline advertising do you mean?
        Just want to know.
        Hi,

        I will have to do some research but I might look into good old flyers and distributing these to people that could be interested in this sort of course/holiday.

        Also Word of Mouth is probably something that would work really well as there are plenty of clients that would want to discuss this and WOM could be the most natural way.

        Short of that I might also suggest sponsorship of a business networking group, and possibly attending small business events and trade shows too.

        I really need to do my research to be honest, however this could be a starting point for this sort of product due to the high price point.
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  • Profile picture of the author RefuseToLose
    I love the idea.

    The problem is how you want to pitch it marketing wise.

    I like the idea above about pitching this as a tax write off / vacation / training approach.

    I think you would have a lot of success doing that.

    Try it out and update us on her results.
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    • Profile picture of the author TeaCozy
      Originally Posted by RefuseToLose View Post

      I love the idea.

      The problem is how you want to pitch it marketing wise.

      I like the idea above about pitching this as a tax write off / vacation / training approach.

      I think you would have a lot of success doing that.

      Try it out and update us on her results.
      Yep, I love it too - I think it is something I would do with the right sort of course as well which is always a good sign.

      I have been a part of a few tax write off / junket types of trips in the past and have been sent over to Hong Kong and Thailand so I do know it works, however it has only ever been for big corporate groups, so the key is to get small business owners and SME to put their hand in their pocket and see the vaue in the investment.

      I'll definately keep everyone up to date, the people who are doing this at the moment are doing it every month, while she is only looking to do it annually so there will be plenty of lead up time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Djwillster123
    I would give a course away for free to build email list and promote my course to that list
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    • Profile picture of the author TeaCozy
      Originally Posted by Djwillster123 View Post

      I would give a course away for free to build email list and promote my course to that list
      I always love a giveaway, once we know the raw cost we can definately look at this as it could certainly build a great list for future events as well as the inaugural course/trip.

      Thanks for your input.
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    • Profile picture of the author aizaku
      Originally Posted by Djwillster123 View Post

      I would give a course away for free to build email list and promote my course to that list

      definitely the best lead magnet given the situation...

      as for who to target..


      target us. internet marketers


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      • Profile picture of the author TeaCozy
        Originally Posted by aizaku View Post

        definitely the best lead magnet given the situation...

        as for who to target..


        target us. internet marketers


        -Ike Paz
        Thanks Ike, I am looking forward to talking with my colleague some more about this, it's been great to get everyone's feedback.

        I think Ozi's suggestion around the length of time and price point will be a big discussion and I think if it is priced correctly a giveaway could be a pretty straight forward option.

        She is looking at doing a few different versions of this concept and while I have seen people do it for fundraisers, I am interested to see how she puts it all together.

        I think she really needs to ensure that her target market are willing to go on a trip like this and what they are looking to get from it - whether it is a holiday with a training thrown in or a training first and holiday second.
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  • Profile picture of the author Oziboomer
    Originally Posted by TeaCozy View Post

    How would you market this online? I'm interested if anyone has any ideas for something like this as it's a little different to marketing a lower end product or service...
    Maybe take a look at what someone like Ryan Deiss does with his Traffic and Conversion Summit.

    Business owners don't need to be told about the "tax deductibility" as they can work that out for themselves.

    With Ryan's event the offer starts at around $500 and may go to $2K but I expect a lot of tickets sell in the $700 - 1000 range for a three day event.

    Sure you have to book accommodation and flights etc so for many people the costs may actually run into the thousands.

    If you are offering a $3500 for 10 day including accommodation, food etc it seems like it is more targeted to a budget conscious or budget focussed person.

    These types don't need a tax deduction but they might need a holiday.

    A 10 day course sounds like WORK.

    If I'm going to pay $3500 for an outcome ( i.e. website) why wouldn't I just pay for a website and have a decent holiday?

    Now if it was a 10 hour course spread over 10 days then it feels like there might be a vacation in there somehow.

    You will need to test the offer in the market you are chasing because each business operator is different and has different needs.

    A single person can just jump on a plane and enjoy themselves and it costs them what is does.

    A business owner who has a partner has other considerations.

    A business owner who has a partner and a family has a different set of considerations.

    For example. I can attend T&C and fly from Australia and it would likely cost me $5K if I take a week.

    If I take my family and we then do the tourist thing it becomes $20K.

    Heck we've spent 20K and dragged the family halfway across the world we might as well spend another $10K and take 3 weeks.

    Now $3500K seems cheap and very back-packer-ish.

    There is a sweet spot that you will need to hit for your ideal target market.

    That market might be quite narrow given the benefits you are offering.

    Maybe test it out and see if you can get some attendees and then come back here and let us know the results.

    I'm sincere in when I say let us know about your success as that way we can all celebrate and we can also all learn from the pitfalls your friend experiences.

    Best regards,

    Ozi
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by Oziboomer View Post

      A 10 day course sounds like WORK.
      Not for a website coding course. You can buy books on Amazon for $35 which contains much more than can be covered in 10 days. The market for this type of "training" venue is generally attracted by the tax write off of a vacation as a business expense.
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      • Profile picture of the author TeaCozy
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        Not for a website coding course. You can buy books on Amazon for $35 which contains much more than can be covered in 10 days. The market for this type of "training" venue is generally attracted by the tax write off of a vacation as a business expense.
        You're right, the tax write off element is a huge draw card and something that leading into the EOFY a fair few people might be keen on.

        I know I have seen some of these courses before and it has certainly crossed my mind to go.
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    • Profile picture of the author TeaCozy
      Originally Posted by Oziboomer View Post

      Maybe take a look at what someone like Ryan Deiss does with his Traffic and Conversion Summit.

      Ozi
      Thanks for your contribution here.

      It does resonate - I wonder if the course is shorter and people can extend or have additional accommodation available..

      Youre right - 10 days with one group is a long time. In the past I have done tours with people and its not for everyone, so many more of an intensive style like Ryan creates could be an option. I will have a chat to my colleague and see what she is looking to offer in the program and see if we can do longer days and free up some time.

      Like I said it is all a concept at the moment but I think its a fairly big idea, so it will need some fine tuning and feedback from people that are in the target market.

      What would you pay for a trip like this? I know $3.5 seems cheap, I think my colleague was thinking that not everyone would want to outlay the cost but if youve ever gone to Bali for example, its heaps cheaper than any trip I would have gone on.. so its actually a steal.

      Maybe she needs to put more of a business hat on rather than thinking of it as a free holiday.

      I really appreciate all your thoughts Ozi, its literally in the earliest of stages and I would really like for this to work out for her, but we need this sort of feedback as otherwise its just a lofty idea. We need to find that sweet spot.
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