A little guidance and advice

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Good morning guys and gals

This is, in part, a venting frustrated whine, and since I hate whining, I'll keep that part to a minimum. I'm also looking for some genuine pointers, as I feel a little bit isolated, and when that happens, I tend to lose objectivity.

I suppose my short term history with IM is like many peoples. I got on the internet before anyone knew what the internet was, before the web was released from the dungeons at CERN and where people used to talk to each other using black and white terminals and a couple of tin cans tied together with string.

When the IM stuff started, I just ignored it. It was spam in my eyes, since if there was something I wanted, I sought it out and bought it, and no 2,578,098 page long sales letter with the headline in quotes and a time limited offer was going to make me do otherwise.

The internet was an expression of freedom (not to mention a network designed to continue operating in event of a nuclear strike) - what the hell was this commercial sales crap?

I was about 14/15 when IM started surfacing, and I ignored it as trash for the next 15 years.

The last few years, I have worked as an IT contractor, specifically as a Project Manager for a Germany company that has a name that bears a phonetic similarity to male sexual fluid. They had a cull at the beginning of the year, and I found myself out of a role.

Note to one and all: perfect example of having all your eggs in one basket. Never rely on one source of income, no matter how profitable it is.

Time went by. I qualified as a Hypnotherapist, NLP Master Practitioner, Time Line Therapist and Executive Coach, thinking that I might go in that direction. I certainly didn't feel like going back to PMing for a large corporate. Somehow, I wanted to help people.

But, I found myself drawn to IM quite by accident. I started to see it as a legitimate business, as it actually is, but with far far less strategic and logistical operational problems compared to the bricks and mortar counterpart.

I bought Mike Filsaimes Hands On Workshop for Newbie's. A bit of a mistake in some respects - but I was intrigued. Who wouldn't want to operate a business that is highly profitable, but lightweight?

Then I found the Warrior Forum, buying George Browns Google Sniper. Wow! Was I convinced that I could do this? You betcha!

10 Google Sniper sites later, followed to exacting instructions, has led to one sale in 6 months. Not so convinced now.

I got the Entrepreneurs Bootcamp and heard inspiring stories from the likes of Andrew Reynolds and Ted Nicholas. Bought stuff from Perry Marshal on PPC. Frank Kern Screwing Google. Blah blah blah.

Yes, I overdosed on information, but PMing is my bread and butter, or it was...

So I took action. I've done the stuff in the videos. I've written articles. Made screencasts. Created Podcasts. Submitted press releases. Wasted multiple figures on PPC advertising.

The spend has been in the region of 5 figures.

The return has been a $60 sale and a list of 24 people.

I'm doing my nut in here and I don't get it.

Perhaps the only thing I can do is use these skills to help others earn, because they aren't doing jack for me. Indeed, that is where I am going to head next. Little choice really because the money is about to run out.

They say that the moment you are about to quit is the moment you should continue, as success is probably around the corner.

And as much as that makes perfect sense to me, it would also seem to make sense that perhaps success is just a mathematical statistic....

A statistic that is improved greatly when a minority of people make money by selling other people products about how to make money.

Almost like Fight Club, the newbie in IM is led to believe that they too can be rock stars, actors and models, where actually, they might just be cementing the status of the statistical minority who did achieve their goals, all at the expense of their own personal effectiveness.

That is social parasitic behavior at its finest.

Now, do I actually believe that? Not really. I am so inspired when I hear the stories of people who were crushed with bankruptcy rising to financial freedom. When I see testimonials of everyday people doing something they love. Escaping the pointless 9 - 5 of another person's dream.

At the same time, I've gotta admit... With all the time and money I have spent, knowing that I have successfully run multimillion pound projects for massive global telecoms companies, this all is starting to feel like it did when I was 14 - a very big scam.

So, I'm curious to know of people who reached a similar position, what their particular challenges were and how they overcame.

What was your turning point? Where and how did it turn around for you?

One last question then - is it really worth becoming a paid member of this forum, considering all I've just said? It is getting to the stage where $37 is a lot of money - so what is in there that isn't in my now bulging IM library?

Thank you for reading and here's to your success, whoever you are and where-ever you may be.

Tref
#advice #guidance
  • Profile picture of the author kelvin yeo
    Tref:

    On the war room, i would have to say it IS worth the money but only if you know where you're heading and can sieve thru what is useful to you. Can be a bit of a distraction and overload otherwise. Quality of info is better than the main forum for sure.


    As for your Google Sniper experience, I must say I'm surprised. You say you followed it to the tee? Including the search count and competition count criteria??
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  • Profile picture of the author .
    hi Tref

    Google sniping, 1000 autoblogs, 10000 BANS sites, there is no magic bullet.
    Don't forget that many of the A+ Marketers are experts in one thing; SELLING PRODUCTS about How to make money online - when in many cases - they can only make money online selling products to teach people how to do it. (lol a bit ironic).

    Tref: Try for 1 month to do things 100% different. I make money in ways that I still haven't heard people even suggesting in this type of forum.
    But what I have found so far, in my small time here, is that they are truly honest people that are interested in helping other people.

    So the question is ; what is your motivation?

    mine is a 4 year old boy and a 4 month old baby boy my wife and my german shepperd.

    If your motivation is enough, keep going, don't stop, remember NLP... anchor yourself to succeed . Good luck mate.
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  • Profile picture of the author TreforWalters
    Guess I'll have to consider the paid forum for a while longer - not sure where the hell I am going at the moment. Even thinking about doing ELance work. Corporate PM work is ridiculously well paid, but I despise it. Feels like your selling your soul to Satan or something.

    With Google Sniper, I think I even have the numbers memorized - circa 3k searches a month on a phrase match, with circa 7k competing sites. I'm a big believer in following the recipe before you get creative with the ingredients! :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author kelvin yeo
      Originally Posted by TreforWalters View Post


      With Google Sniper, I think I even have the numbers memorized - circa 3k searches a month on a phrase match, with circa 7k competing sites. I'm a big believer in following the recipe before you get creative with the ingredients! :-)
      Yes those would be right! May I ask if you applied it across a few different niches as well? There are some niches that are real duds.
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  • Profile picture of the author rondo
    Sounds like you're focusing on tactics before having any strategy.
    What do you want to do?


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  • Profile picture of the author TreforWalters
    BANS sites? What's that? (Forgive my ignorance - still a baby I guess)

    Yeah, I guess I understand they are plying their trade and that they are doing what they are good at and being who they are. Which is fine. But your right, the recursiveness of it all is more than a little bit ironic.

    It's funny. As I pressed the "Post" button, I had the thought to scrap everything I was currently doing and just start from scratch. 1 project only, completely different to everything else I've tried. So, while I am not sure I believe in fate, your message just gave my RAS a kick.

    Wow. My motivation....

    I was sure until a few days ago actually. I have a pretty weird story, but the short version is that I cured myself of PTSD after being in a cult, divorced and barred from seeing my two daughters, amongst other things.

    In this country, the legal powers completely destroy the finances of the non-resident parent, so I have a choice to be on welfare and have nothing, or be so wealthy that I am unaffected by the legal problems, giving my daughters financial freedom in the process.

    A lot changed in the last week or so though, and despite all the court assessments coming out in my favor, it looks that I may not see my children until they are teenagers due to the mothers actions. I always understood that it may turn out this way, so I am unsurprised and have dealt with the emotions involved long ago. But yes, it seems my original motivation is gone.

    On the other hand, £150k of debt is a pretty good motivator. I cannot earn that in a J.O.B. Life is so short, and I refuse to hand it over.

    Here's some advice to the younger people on this forum. If you experience a truly massive surge in financial growth, get some financial advice, or you may end up in a really messy position. That's pretty much what happened to me, going from a welfare check of £40 a week to over ten times that a day. Financial immaturity is a killer, and 20/20 hindsight is a taunting reminder.

    I think it is time for me to do a little bit more self-examination!

    Thank you Kelvin and RankingHero
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    • Tref,

      How did you "experience a truly massive surge in financial growth"?

      Thanks,
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  • Profile picture of the author TreforWalters
    Google Sniper niches were:

    Lower Body Weight Loss
    Poker Strategy
    Betting Lines
    A certain social bookmarking product that is demonic (and the only one I got a sale from)
    Singing Lessons
    Forex
    Wii Games
    2x Hypnosis Products and Sites
    Stand Up Comedy

    @Rondo - Think that I agree with you. Wanting an alternative to corporate work and making money from home isn't a strategy. But, making money is the bi-product of a good business strategy. Just shows you what people (read: me) will buy into when you hook the right emotions.

    Feels like I've done the whole thing with my heart instead of my head. I feel like such a moron.

    But it will pass. And maybe quicker than it should.
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