Votes of confidence

CDarklock · 09-13-2009, 04:32 PM

It's really cool when you get that order for articles that basically says "here's my niche, write ten articles of any length on any subject and take all the time you need."

If it was a first time customer, I'd think he didn't know what he wanted, but when it's the third or fourth order you know what he's really saying - "I trust your judgment."

When you first start writing for clients, there's always that worry... you send out an article and halfway expect the client to come back and say "WTF is this, you idiot" because you screwed something up. The moments of confidence and trust are always unexpected, and just worth their weight in gold.

A lot of people out there praise their outsource talent, whether it's content writers or web designers or just plain old affiliates, but I think sometimes the outsource talent forgets to come in and thank the clients. The street runs both ways, and if I didn't have so many great clients, my life wouldn't be as good as it is.

Just like the web designers wouldn't be much of anywhere without people who needed sites built, and the affiliates wouldn't be much of anywhere without people who needed products sold... we content writers wouldn't have much of a business at all if it weren't for the clients.

Sarah Russell · 09-13-2009, 05:49 PM

I love those orders! It gives me so much more to work with when a client says, "Just send me 30 articles on this subject when you get a chance" than when I'm trying to make something work according to a strict outline or keyword parameter.

You're totally right - I'd like to add my thanks to all the great clients I've worked with here on the Warrior Forum

adamv · 09-13-2009, 06:04 PM

I have not had as many clients as some because I just recently started doing a little ghost writing on the side. The clients I've had (and you know who you are

) have all been great.

If I needed clarification on what they wanted they were lightening fast returning emails. In exchange I tried to get their articles to them as quickly as possible. They thanked me for the work that I did and I thanked them for the work that they gave me.

It's been great so far so, thanks again.

P.S. Nice post. It is a two way street. You're right about that.

Kevin AKA Hubcap · 09-13-2009, 06:26 PM

IMO people who hire writers would probably be better off if they didn't keep them on a leash. A good writer can provide different perspectives and really give you article promotion efforts a boost.

Before I was able to design my own sites I hired a web designer to design a three page site for me. I was new to IM and gave him absolutely no direction.

He produced a site I was very proud of.

Kevin

Sarah Russell · 09-13-2009, 07:40 PM

How much leeway to give writers is sort of a mixed bag. I've had clients who send me nothing but the niche to go on and those who send me a list of exactly what they want, down to the paragraph.

If you're expecting something very specific, then I definitely want to know as much as possible. If left to my own devices, I tend to write in a very conversational tone - so if a client is expecting articles with a promotional slant, I need to know that up front.

But I do think that once you've taken the time to find a good writer and done a few successful projects, it's not a bad idea to let the writer go a little bit. The writer may be more knowledgeable about a particular niche than you are, or may be able to take the articles in a new direction you hadn't thought about before.

Jo_Shua · 09-13-2009, 08:05 PM

I like this thread... giving props where it is due: our clients.

So far I have had some AWESOME clients, and I have enjoyed each niche I have had to write about. I do like having that confidence booster when a client just tells you to have at it, and do it how you believe is best.

Just giving a shout out to all of my clients --> THANKS for being AWESOME.

Man, maybe we should say that more often

JC

kennykencaid · 09-13-2009, 08:17 PM

When ever I hire somebody to do something I just give them complete freedom to do it.

Thats why I paying them to start with, because they know more about it then me.

Talk soon,
Kenny Kencaid

Valorie · 09-13-2009, 08:43 PM

I have some really great warriors to write for, too. It's a blessing to work for nice, reasonable people.

LegitBlogger · 09-13-2009, 10:05 PM

That's why it's good to do things RIGHT for a client in
the beginning of the relationship. He/She ends up completely
trusting you and your judgment. So - yes, first impression
does count for a whole lot.

09-13-2009, 04:32 PM	#1
CDarklock AT gmail DOT com War Room Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,947 Blog Entries: 4 Thanks: 1,740 Thanked 5,484 Times in 2,510 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Votes of confidence It's really cool when you get that order for articles that basically says "here's my niche, write ten articles of any length on any subject and take all the time you need." If it was a first time customer, I'd think he didn't know what he wanted, but when it's the third or fourth order you know what he's really saying - "I trust your judgment." When you first start writing for clients, there's always that worry... you send out an article and halfway expect the client to come back and say "WTF is this, you idiot" because you screwed something up. The moments of confidence and trust are always unexpected, and just worth their weight in gold. A lot of people out there praise their outsource talent, whether it's content writers or web designers or just plain old affiliates, but I think sometimes the outsource talent forgets to come in and thank the clients. The street runs both ways, and if I didn't have so many great clients, my life wouldn't be as good as it is. Just like the web designers wouldn't be much of anywhere without people who needed sites built, and the affiliates wouldn't be much of anywhere without people who needed products sold... we content writers wouldn't have much of a business at all if it weren't for the clients.
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09-13-2009, 05:49 PM	#2
Sarah Russell CommonSenseMarketing.net War Room Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 695 Thanks: 87 Thanked 274 Times in 57 Posts Social Networking	Re: Votes of confidence I love those orders! It gives me so much more to work with when a client says, "Just send me 30 articles on this subject when you get a chance" than when I'm trying to make something work according to a strict outline or keyword parameter. You're totally right - I'd like to add my thanks to all the great clients I've worked with here on the Warrior Forum
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09-13-2009, 06:04 PM	#3
adamv Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA, USA. Posts: 1,111 Thanks: 165 Thanked 238 Times in 138 Posts	Re: Votes of confidence I have not had as many clients as some because I just recently started doing a little ghost writing on the side. The clients I've had (and you know who you are ) have all been great. If I needed clarification on what they wanted they were lightening fast returning emails. In exchange I tried to get their articles to them as quickly as possible. They thanked me for the work that I did and I thanked them for the work that they gave me. It's been great so far so, thanks again. P.S. Nice post. It is a two way street. You're right about that.
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09-13-2009, 06:26 PM	#4
Kevin AKA Hubcap Flyin' Low & Slow War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,189 Thanks: 56 Thanked 177 Times in 132 Posts	Re: Votes of confidence IMO people who hire writers would probably be better off if they didn't keep them on a leash. A good writer can provide different perspectives and really give you article promotion efforts a boost. Before I was able to design my own sites I hired a web designer to design a three page site for me. I was new to IM and gave him absolutely no direction. He produced a site I was very proud of. Kevin
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09-13-2009, 07:40 PM	#5
Sarah Russell CommonSenseMarketing.net War Room Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 695 Thanks: 87 Thanked 274 Times in 57 Posts Social Networking	Re: Votes of confidence How much leeway to give writers is sort of a mixed bag. I've had clients who send me nothing but the niche to go on and those who send me a list of exactly what they want, down to the paragraph. If you're expecting something very specific, then I definitely want to know as much as possible. If left to my own devices, I tend to write in a very conversational tone - so if a client is expecting articles with a promotional slant, I need to know that up front. But I do think that once you've taken the time to find a good writer and done a few successful projects, it's not a bad idea to let the writer go a little bit. The writer may be more knowledgeable about a particular niche than you are, or may be able to take the articles in a new direction you hadn't thought about before.
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09-13-2009, 08:05 PM	#6
Jo_Shua Geek it til' it MHz! War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: The Boro, TN Posts: 236 Thanks: 65 Thanked 48 Times in 34 Posts	Re: Votes of confidence I like this thread... giving props where it is due: our clients. So far I have had some AWESOME clients, and I have enjoyed each niche I have had to write about. I do like having that confidence booster when a client just tells you to have at it, and do it how you believe is best. Just giving a shout out to all of my clients --> THANKS for being AWESOME. Man, maybe we should say that more often JC
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09-13-2009, 08:17 PM	#7
kennykencaid Active Warrior Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Votes of confidence When ever I hire somebody to do something I just give them complete freedom to do it. Thats why I paying them to start with, because they know more about it then me. Talk soon, Kenny Kencaid

09-13-2009, 08:43 PM	#8
Valorie Motivated Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 183 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 277 Thanked 37 Times in 31 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Votes of confidence I have some really great warriors to write for, too. It's a blessing to work for nice, reasonable people.

09-13-2009, 10:05 PM	#9
LegitBlogger HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: , , . Posts: 473 Thanks: 21 Thanked 58 Times in 33 Posts	Re: Votes of confidence That's why it's good to do things RIGHT for a client in the beginning of the relationship. He/She ends up completely trusting you and your judgment. So - yes, first impression does count for a whole lot.
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