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Old 09-15-2009, 05:32 AM   #1
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Default Guru's Email Landed In The Junk Folder...

Not the first time I have found a guru's email in the junk folder, I just received one tonight - well done Mike!

If you are going to market via email you must learn the 'ropes'! The email server you are using (maybe your own vps or dedicated server or hosted server) -needs to have an SPF record, DKIM, Domain Keys - these are technical things that establish that the email is coming from a whitelisted server.

If you don't feel competent to establish all this - then farm it out to RentaCoder or somewhere else so your emails always land in the INBOX.

Times have changed from when every marketer could just chuck masses of emails into a mail server and get them to land in the inbox - it's likely with some to be deleted or thrown into the junk folder if the mail server you are using is not 'whitelisted'.

If using established mail services like Aweber or GetResponse - they are 'whitelisted' and pose no trouble getting your emails into the inbox for you - where they have a better chance of being read.

It always surprises me when marketers become 'guru's' and they turn to having their owner vps or dedicated server - their email delivery rate goes downhill!

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Old 09-15-2009, 05:53 AM   #2
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Don't be so sure about Aweber and the likes...I've seen plenty of them get into my junk folder.

Remember, there is no such thing as %100 delivery rate...no matter what you use.

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Old 09-15-2009, 06:15 AM   #3
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Don't be so sure about Aweber and the likes...I've seen plenty of them get into my junk folder.

Remember, there is no such thing as %100 delivery rate...no matter what you use.
Right! That's because spam filters are smarter than many people. They don't know the term GURU and they don't believe every little thing that is sent by such a guru. They CHECK. If the email complies with their rules, then it passes. If the email doesn't comply, it doesn't matter what some people think about the sender and it doesn't matter how succesful was the sender at a certain moment in time

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Old 09-15-2009, 06:15 AM   #4
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I know services like Aweber talk to ISPs to get their mail whitelisted.

But if you're talking about Mike Filsaime, he uses ProSender.com - his own branded version of Aweber (but the Aweber folks still run it).

What email client are you using? If it's Hotmail then you can ever tell WHAT goes in the spam folder.

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Mikes last email went in my trash bin too. It also resulted in me unsubscribing from his list. The on-going pimping of other offers by him, just got to be to much for me.

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Using a reputable 3rd party mailer or having your own mail sending service which is setup properly (domain keys, DPF recs, etc) will increase your delivery rate.

However, there is no 100% delivery rate. One should monitor their own delivery rates by seeding their list with emails from the major ISPs (hotmail, aol, yahoo, etc) and verifying the emails get delivered.

For best delivery rates it requires a multi-layer approach.
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:30 AM   #7
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Default Re: Guru's Email Landed In The Junk Folder...

Well im with yahoo and find that a lot of items go to junk that shouldnt so i always check my junk too. I subscribe to my own list to make sure that they get there and find that 1 in 10 will go to the junk folder. Yet my husband is on his own niche list and 2 in 10 will go to his junk with msn.

You have to remember that even by taking special methods you still have to rely on the email providers and some are ten times worse than others.

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If using established mail services like Aweber or GetResponse - they are 'whitelisted' and pose no trouble getting your emails into the inbox for you - where they have a better chance of being read.
I wouldn't be too sure of that. I can subscribe to lists hosted by Aweber okay, but not so with GetResponse. If I try to subscribe to a GetResponse list, the confirmation message never reaches me, so I can't confirm my subscription.

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