Risk of getting banned from Autoresponder service

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Hey,

We all know that money is in the list, but we also know that we can get banned from autoresponder like aweber or getresponse. But how can we avoid it? Yeah i know that we need to follow the rules, but sometimes shit happens...

How we can avoid this? Maybe use some selfhosted platform, but deliveribility would be bad...

For example, I have built 100,000 subscribers list, earning thousands per month and suddenly aweber kick me out, what should I do next in this scenario ?
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  • Profile picture of the author garyl2k
    Pretty easy to avoid it, read their terms of service, they all have guide lines on what not to do just like Facebook Google etc.

    Long as you are giving value and not spamming your list with information that is not relevant to why they signed up in the first place then you will be fine, just take care of your customer (Which is what they are!) and they will take good care of you!

    Always treat your list as your most important part of your business, once you capture their information it isn't then time to spam them with affiliate offers to cash in on them. Continue to give the same amazing value in content that got them to sign up in the first place.

    Twice a week you could send out a good offer for them that might benefit them or their business, make sure the affiliate product you offer them is of good value and something that they would be interested in.

    If you start to get a high volume of unsubscribes from your email lists then you will need to investigate why, that is a sign you are going in the wrong direction.
  • Profile picture of the author YourBizAid
    Self-hosted software like Sendy has very good deliverability. But the condition is that the list must be a built by you from ground up. It's even better when you build the list through the software and not exporting from Infusionsoft, Aweber, etc to the software (Sendy).

    However, Aweber won't kick you out for no good reason, just make you are not violating their TOS and you will be find.

    Best of Luck!

    Ken

    P.S - The money is NOT in the list but in the RELATIONSHIP you build with the list!
  • Profile picture of the author EPoltrack77
    Read and follow thier rules. Have a double opt in to keep complaints down. Don't spam your list with unwanted content.
  • Profile picture of the author Randy McLean
    I just listening to a podcast with Igor Kheifets and he said that's what happened to him. Aweber shut him down and his list was 100,000.

    He was pissed!

    I often thought about what I would do. I have been with Aweber for years but sometimes I thought about using a service that better understands the IM niche like GVO.

    I have found the best way to reduce spam complaints is to email on a frequent basis. If you wait too long sometimes people tend to forget who you are.
  • Profile picture of the author agmccall
    first,you should have your list backed up.

    second, if you have a list that big you should probably be handling it on your own and not using something like aweber, But if that is not the route you want to take, then you should already be talking to other services and asking them how to migrate your list to their platform.

    And, with a list of 100k you should probably have it spread out over 2 or 3 different services.

    And most of all don't do things that could get you banned.

    al
  • Profile picture of the author naviown
    Thanks guys for answers, I am thinking the same. You know, it's better to prepare for such things before its too late and best is to be fully INDEPENDENT

    Sendy is just a platform for sending emails, like interspire and we need to have some hosting, some server to send email thrue and it's not so easy to reach the inbox.

    Aweber or getresponse is more strict to IM niche?
  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Originally Posted by naviown View Post

    Hey,

    We all know that money is in the list, but we also know that we can get banned from autoresponder like aweber or getresponse. But how can we avoid it? Yeah i know that we need to follow the rules, but sometimes shit happens...

    How we can avoid this? Maybe use some selfhosted platform, but deliveribility would be bad...

    For example, I have built 100,000 subscribers list, earning thousands per month and suddenly aweber kick me out, what should I do next in this scenario ?
    Sorry, but the only way "shit happens" in this scenario is if you squat and squeeze. Aweber isn't going to kick you out, especially if you are paying them to handle 100K subs, for no reason.

    But, since you already flushed your Aweber account, here's what I would do.

    I'm currently looking at an open source self-hosted program called Mautic. I've used another self-hosted solution for years, but I want to get more sophisticated without having to have add-ons coded every time.

    I'd host the database on Amazon Web Services and use their Simple Email System for sending.

    Then I'd take a big dose of digital Imodium to make sure "shit happens" doesn't happen.
  • Profile picture of the author ronnierokk
    The truth of the matter about this is, most BIG MARKETERS are not putting all their eggs all in one basket.

    You should have at least 3 or more different autoresponders that you are using at any given time to get the best deliverability and have a diverse way of sending emails.

    And if you get kicked out of one (for some strange reason) you will still have back-ups to keep your business afloat.

    And always back-up your list at least once a week if you are getting a nice daily optin rate.

    Cheers,
    Ronnie Rokk Smith
  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    Spread your data out over multiple ESPs.

    If you find that you're not getting good deliverability to a certain provider from any of the ESPs, then move the data for that provider to an ESP that is getting good deliverability.
  • Profile picture of the author vashet
    Backup your list is the no.1 IMO
    Spreading it across few autoresponders is also a great idea. They won't kick you without serious reason, and if they do you can try to move to other providers with your backed up list.
  • Profile picture of the author Zoe_21
    suddenly aweber kick me out,
    Did they say why?

    Seeking an alternative and continuing the actions that got you 'kicked out' maybe reason for another kicking by your new one.

    Assuming it's because your emails received too many complaints or unsubscribes then even with self hosting, there's a feature in gMail that makes unsubscribing easier (user doesn't have to click the unsubscribe link in your emails) and if this occurs too often with your new one then your back to square one

    how can we avoid it? Yeah i know that we need to follow the rules
    So you do know the answer to your question
  • Profile picture of the author Zoe_21
    Originally Posted by Jesus Perez
    I kept getting spammed months after trying to unsubscribe.
    Has happened to me with another!

    Seems no matter how I try, my email address gets added to another list and sold on for profits to more solo sellers + MattGill (named culprit) still manages to enter my spam box using different email addresses!!!!
  • Profile picture of the author VidasVegas
    Use GetResponse it's more flexible with "Make Money Online" niche.
  • Profile picture of the author ED1190
    This is why I'm currently with Sendlane.com

    It's run by actual and legit online marketers, and as long as you genuinely do follow the rules, you'll be fine, and won't be kicked off for any reason. Sendlane was built with us online marketers in mind.

    Since a lot of sites don't have Sendlane as an autoresponder option, GetResponse is my back up one, though.

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