Please Help this Spammer...

I think you are going about this the wrong way. If you're banned, you're banned. Rejoining with a new username (twice) doesn't change that. It's you that's banned, not your username.

Rather than trying to rejoin, I would have thought you would do better to contact Allen, explain how sorry you are, etc and see if you can have your old account reinstated - even if conditions are added.

Hi Paul,

Actually my issue was with (I'm assuming) some mod who deleted what I considered a legitimate thread. I had made a post asking about recommendations for (essentially) help desks/for product management, and 3 times it was deleted. No idea why it would have been deleted, as it was along the lines of making money/etc.

Thing is, although I understand there is a lot of crap that gets posted, unfortunately on the flip side there doesn't appear to be very much accountability, so legit threads get deleted. And then since I reposted, I was temporarily "banned". And I even requested the mod or whomever deleted it to send me a message first, but that was not done. Instead it was deleted, and auto-ban.

I suppose in the greater scheme of things, it's not a big issue at all, but it was just a small pet peeve, so when this guy said he was posting legit threads (missed the first part though where he actually was spamming initially) -- but the second part where he was posting legit and then banned, I don't think that is right.

Anyways, that's my feedback.

Cheers!

Allen is a good guy, talk to him!!!!

And if an extra glass of wine does that much to you.. then stay away from all forms of alcohol all together.

Johnathan,

I did not say anything about how good your judgment is or is not. I said that I'd bet on a moderator's over it. I would make the same bet regarding probably more than 98% of the members here.

Thank you, by the way. You make my point about how people would argue their positions persistently. Everyone has their own interpretations of things. The moderators have specific standards and goals against which to make their interpretations, and they are different, for the most part, from the members'.

Guerrilla, The only rules the mods have to keep in mind as far as the value of the marketplace are those relating to the WSO and Classifieds sections. Those are intended to keep both valuable for the members. Not to the same degree, no. You're right. Longevity and established patterns of behavior affect the amount of leeway any particular member gets. That is normal and desirable. Not at all. In fact, you don't get into "the inner circle" if you haven't already proved that you understand them. There are, by the way, no "hidden policies."

Ricardo,

Cash gifting threads tend to get deleted immediately because of the direction they inevitably go. Previous threads that didn't get deleted simply provide examples of the reasoning for that tendency. Generally speaking, specific behaviors tend to be targeted. If you exhibit those behaviors, you will think it's you that's the target.

What you "see" (translation: How you interpret what you see) is filtered by your experience and desires, and will often have little relevance to the actual motivations behind the reality.

Your interpretation is, I might add, of very little concern to the people making the decisions. As you have just stated, you've come to a conclusion and are uninterested in examining it further for accuracy. The fact that you haven't anything like the experience necessary to form an accurate conclusion on the topic seems to elude you.


Paul

Folks, those of you bitching about having threads deleted, earlier I started
a thread simply asking people if as they had been doing this longer over
time (marketing) were they learning from their mistakes and able to
recognize the hype from the real value.

It was deleted in seconds.

Guess what?

That's life. You move on.

Having said that, it's part of the reason why I don't start as many threads
here as I used to. I honestly don't know what's acceptable anymore.

So, if you want to provide REAL value to the community, here is what
you do. It's REAL easy.

1. Look for threads started by people who have problems and need
solutions to those problems.

2. If you have an answer, give it. Don't post links, even if they're not
affiliate links. Just provide the value of your knowledge. Answer the
question and get out.

If more people would simply do this, we'd have fewer problems around
here.

And I am speaking from experience as somebody who caused more
problems than you can shake a stick at.

It's not our playground guys. It's Allen's. We play by his rules and the
decisions of the moderators.

If we don't like them...we can go play someplace else.

It's really THAT simple.

Alican,

Asking a moderator, or the help desk, is unlikely to be useful. Even if you ask the right mod, which is statistically unlikely, you have to hope they both remember the specific post in question and want to discuss it.


Paul

I'm gonna add one other thing folks that you're not going to like to hear.

A forum is NOT a democracy.

Allen has the right to refuse entry to this place to anybody he wants. He
does not have to allow the general public in. Hell, he can charge $997 a
month for membership here if he wants and still kick your sorry ass out
if you behave like a jerk.

It's no different than you coming to my home as a guest. While there,
you have to abide by MY rules. If you don't, I have every right to ask
you to leave. If you don't, I have every right to call the police to have
your ass hauled out of there.

Same is true here.

Consider yourself LUCKY to be able to participate in the greatest forum
on the Internet. There is more knowledge to be gained here than from
most $297 home study courses...most of which aren't worth jack sh*t.

Treat this place with the respect that it deserves and you can stay here
a long time. Just look at some of the members here since 2002 and 2003.

Treat it like dirt and expect to be shown the door.

Thanks Steven, I thought that may be the case but it was worth asking anyway...