Cautious Beginner with Questions 2017

by xx Kongming xx

Posted: 7 years ago 19 replies

INTERNET MARKETING

First off, I just recently joined warrior forum and figured i would begin with a proper introduction-
Hello, you can call me kongming. I have some questions, I tried to find the answers within this forum, however they are either absent,outdated, or buried too deep.
1) I am just starting out, I have a handful of niches i know about and would like to try.I have already hit a couple obstacles with moving forward. First is checking general audience size-Google keyword planner is now catering to those with ad campaigns providing them revenue(as they probably should/would), people trying to get started are now out a valuable resource,(almost silly to ask) are there alternatives to check searches per month?
2) My next obstacle is with checking if there is money to be made in my niches, Everyone recommends clickbank,(all i saw was relative garbage i could not stand behind,nor were my niches present), However it seems most everywhere else wants a site up front, which i would rather not waste the time making if they dont have products or services for that site(counter intuitive). I could always search for affiliate programs specifically related to my preferred industry/niches, however as a beginner i would like to get my feet wet prior to making those contacts, so i am looking at practicing with niche sites(sniper sites if you call them that) as opposed to Authority sites to feel out my niches. Any advice?
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shmol 7 years ago

You say you have a handful niches you know something about.

Good.

How about picking the one you are most interested in and starting blog on that topic.

Do not worry about keyword research or number of searches that a keyword gets.

Just write about your topic--write for people and not for a search engine.

Start off by posting three days per week and over time, build up to posting five days per week.

Cover everything you can about your topic.

You can write in any style you want, from article style posts to list type posts.

As for ways to make money from your blog--since you are going to pick a topic you know something about--create a free report and give it away on the blog to build a list, then, over time--with some research, you can find products that you can promote to them.

If not, as your traffic increases and your list increases, you can create your own product and sell it to your list first--at a discount, and then offer it on your blog.

You can also, rent advertising space on your blog.

Whatever you do, do not give up, keep writing and tie your blog into social media--like facebook, LinkedIn, twitter, and reddit.

This will help increase your traffic.

Hope this Helps.
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- salegurus 7 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by shmol
  
  Do not worry about keyword research or number of searches that a keyword gets.
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  Whaaaaaat? Thats the worst advice ive seen in a long time.....
  
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  Affportal 7 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by salegurus
  
  Whaaaaaat? Thats the worst advice ive seen in a long time.....
  
  I agree with you... It ALL starts with targeting the right keywords. Why write about something if there is no one interested in reading about it? That's content for content's sake and a big waste of time.
  
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- JohnMcCabe 7 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by shmol
  
  Do not worry about keyword research or number of searches that a keyword gets.
  
  Let me rephrase this in a way it makes sense.
  
  Too many newbies get enamored of hard and fast rules based on exact keyword numbers. Things like "the keyword should have a minimum of 2,000 searches per month." As if a keyword that showed 1,900 searches is somehow not worth looking at.
  
  Even with the Google KWT now showing ranges of searches, it's still good enough for your initial research. If the tool shows 10K to 100K, you can be reasonably sure that at least 10K people enter that KW.
  
  Also, don't get caught up in the KWT estimates of competition. It's gauging competition for paid ads, not search rankings. In other words, if something shows high competition, it means that a lot of bidders want ads. For your initial product research, high competition is actually a good thing, because it means people are willing to back their guess at the profit potential with cold, hard cash.
  
  As for products, a lot of people start and stop at Clickbank because of the commission levels. They see a $97 ebook with 75% commission and start seeing themselves on the beach drinking from a coconut. There's a reason that vendors offer high commissions for these products, and it has nothing to do with generosity. If they could get away with offering 4%-8% like Amazon, they would. And you've already noted the often questionable quality of many products.
  
  See if there are books, ebooks, courses selling in your niche. Are there physical products? Membership or subscription sites? When you look at blogs in the niche, are there a lot of ads? Are there groups on social media sites? For your initial research you are looking for action.
  
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dayus444 7 years ago

Don't spread yourself too thin when just starting out. Pick one niche and work with that until you make something reasonable out of it.
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Brent Stangel

7 years ago

(almost silly to ask) are there alternatives to check searches per month?

There are but are they accurate?

Open a Bing ads account and use theirs. It's what I've been using for years. You won't get Google numbers but you can bet if a lot of people are searching on Bing for particular KWs, there are people searching on G.

a site up front, which i would rather not waste the time making if they dont have products or services for that site(counter intuitive). I could always search for affiliate programs specifically related to my preferred industry/niches, however as a beginner i would like to get my feet wet prior to making those contacts, so i am looking at practicing with niche sites

This seems to be a complete contradiction.

Whaaaaaat? Thats the worst advice ive seen in a long time.....

Sadly, it's not the worst I've seen recently.

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xx Kongming xx

7 years ago

Originally Posted by Brent Stangel

Interesting. I suppose it could be the same proportionally. I will look into this, Thanks.

Originally Posted by Brent Stangel

This seems to be a complete contradiction.

My message was a bit convoluted, In summary, I have various niches I would like to check for an audience and the availability to promote, However 3rd party platforms like CJ want a website before letting me see what offers they have. I certainly don't want to approach manufacturers/suppliers directly with my inexperience. I also don't want to make a website there is no supply/demand for. So while attempting a smaller first site(probably around a singular aspect of an industry) I need to know what is available to build around.

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TechDigitals 7 years ago

Originally Posted by xx Kongming xx

However 3rd party platforms like CJ want a website before letting me see what offers they have.

There are quite a handful of 3rd party platforms(other than CJ) that don't require you having a website before letting you see what they offer...
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Steve B

7 years ago

Kongming:

Just a couple of additions to what's already been written.

1- You can still use the Google Keyword Planner tool. If you haven't already, set up an account and you'll have access to the keyword tool - you don't have to spend any money on campaigns until you want to.

2- The answer for this question comes from doing some niche research prior to building a site. Use the forum search function - there is a lot of good information on ways to see what is making money and what isn't. Research the best keyword phrases a little to see what kind of competition there is within that niche. Use the SERPs and see which competitors are found on the top couple of pages. See what they offer. Check Amazon books to see which niches are found in the most popular selling books. Check the "Dummies" books and see if there is one or more books written in the niche (if so, there should be money to be made). Check Nextag to see if there are mailing lists to rent in the niche.

Just a word of caution overall . . . throwing up a few "sniper sites" (as you call them) is not a great way to test the water.

IMO, it would be a far better use of your time to:

Focus on niches where you already have knowledge, experience, training, passion, and interest.
Spend a few hours researching each niche where you have some experience and interest and look for "holes" or "gaps" to what's being offered in the niche. Can you fill those holes?
See if you can find some common problems or desires in the niche that don't seem to be answered. A product or service that addresses and solves an important problem can become the basis of a full time business.

Just a comment on setting up a web site. It's extremely easy these days to do using WordPress. You can clone your site once you have all the basics in place and make another site in a different niche in a couple of clicks. Then just go in and change the information that you need to change and you have a second full blown site. Learning how to do this is easy and very inexpensive.

Personally, I wouldn't mess with sniper sites when you're just starting out. Build a real business - one that Google will help to support. Most sniper sites are very "thin" and won't give you organic traffic. Google dumped many of these sites in their recent updates.

Good luck to you,

Steve

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xx Kongming xx

7 years ago

Originally Posted by Steve B

I was mostly concerned with the reliability of the free results, I read this particular page- https://www.seroundtable.com/google-...led-22535.html and thought there was a pretty big gap in between those figures.But as a rookie I suppose knowing if it has 1k or more should suffice as John Mcabe also mentioned - Thanks

Originally Posted by Steve B

2- The answer for this question comes from doing some niche research prior to building a site. Use the forum search function - there is a lot of good information on ways to see what is making money and what isn't. Research the best keyword phrases a little to see what kind of competition there is within that niche. Use the SERPs and see which competitors are found on the top couple of pages. See what they offer. Check Amazon books to see which niches are found in the most popular selling books. Check the "Dummies" books and see if there is one or more books written in the niche (if so, there should be money to be made). Check Nextag to see if there are mailing lists to rent in the niche.

Just a word of caution overall . . . throwing up a few "sniper sites" (as you call them) is not a great way to test the water.

I am unfamiliar with the acronym SERPs, my apologies. Great idea with the mailing list and best selling books-thanks

Originally Posted by Steve B

Personally, I wouldn't mess with sniper sites when you're just starting out. Build a real business - one that Google will help to support. Most sniper sites are very "thin" and won't give you organic traffic. Google dumped many of these sites in their recent updates.

Good luck to you,

Steve

Authority Sites are definitely the more reliable model in my opinion as well so far, I found this video in my research suggesting it may be easier to do a small niche site(sniper sites some call them, i may be mistaken) for a begginer- Authority Sites vs Niche Sites: Which is the Best Fit for You?
Your thoughts? Thank you for the wonderful advice from everyone so far!

Thanks

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mdallen 7 years ago

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talfighel

7 years ago

Originally Posted by xx Kongming xx

Everyone recommends clickbank,(all i saw was relative garbage i could not stand behind,nor were my niches present

So you are saying that these products were not of high value?

If you are not happy with them, why not create your own product yourself in that niche.

Or even look else where. There are other networks too you know.

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xx Kongming xx

7 years ago

Originally Posted by talfighel

The value of clickbank's offers are subjective to the law of mercantile just like everything else-"Anything is worth what it's purchaser will pay for it".
That being said, They are of little value to me personally and so i cannot stand behind them.
As for making a quality E-course or "how to do" I am not particularly interested in doing so nor do i hold myself to a guru status qualifying to do so. The problem with looking elsewhere was - They do not want to show their offers until i already have a site - I want to build a site when i know they have offers to promote.

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JohnMcCabe 7 years ago

Originally Posted by xx Kongming xx

I am unfamiliar with the acronym SERPs, my apologies. Great idea with the mailing list and best selling books-thanks

SERP = Search Engine Results Page

It's the page that comes up when you run a search, and the following pages when you click for more results.
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CurtisSWN 7 years ago

Emulate (copy) your business from someone who you know for a fact is successful; i.e. they've proven that it is a profitable market. Go where the money is, not where you think the money is. Big difference.
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- xx Kongming xx 7 years ago
  
  Now I have a question regarding SEO in my domain hunt.
  Does the exact order of keywords in the domain name affect it's SEO?
  Example- I want to build a site about the novel THECOUNTOFMONTECRISTO. Of course that being a title, the domain is already taken, suppose MONTECRISTOTHECOUNT is available. Would it be able to compete?
  
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katerinavaiou 7 years ago

Exact matched domain or EMD was very easy to rank in past. However the scenario has changed a lot in recent times. Now EMD has a opposite effect what it used to have in the past.

For your information, Google made an algorithm change in order to cut down excess use of EMD domain. Hence you should not go for the EMD nowadays for your own benefits.
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writeaway 7 years ago

It's one thing to be cautious and do PROPER due diligence

It's another to suffer from ANALYSIS PARALYSIS

Know the difference.

Otherwise, you'll be on the fence forever.

In MOST CASES, it's better to SHOOT, READY, AIM instead of the other way around
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