Exit Pop Ups

[markpocock]

Hi Guys

Do you use these on your info sites to offer
a special discount if they buy today?
ie a $10 discount?

If you do have one on your sales page
are you pleased with it?

What difference in sales conversion has it made?

Which Pop up do you recommend?

Upsellit.com perhaps.

Any info would be great

thanks

Mark

[Rich Lowe]

Hi

I'm testing the ones created by Exit Splash

Rich

[markpocock]

Rich

How's Exit Splash going for you?

Looked at their web site. looks interesting.

cheers

Mark

[Patrick Mader]

I use instant popover for that.

Discounts are working fine...

Pm me if you need to know more..

cheers,

patrick

[xu1]

Exit Popups are fantastic for the last minute sales discount, that is you only really use them for the last ditch effort to sell your product at a discount before your visitors vanish forever.

Instant Popovers is a great tool for this.

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by Nathan Segal

I've already gotten 3 sales from it that I wouldn't have received otherwise. You can check those out in my sig.

Excuse a question, please, Nathan, from someone with no involvement but some curiosity: but how do you know that they're sales you wouldn't have had a little later anyway? You're surely not assuming purely because a sale comes in from an exit pop-up that it's a sale you wouldn't otherwise have got at all??! A sale you "wouldn't otherwise have got at that moment", I can see - but that's an entirely different parameter, isn't it?

Isn't it necessary to compare something like sales per thousand hits over a significant period of time, to judge this?

[Anonymous Affiliate]

I use Exit Spash and it's working well for me.

I advise against offering a discount on the exit pop up. Instead, you want to give a FREE gift via an opt-in page. Chances are that if someone leaves your sales page he's just not interested in your product regardless of the price. In my opinion, you're better off getting them into a funnel so you can follow up over the following days with crystal clear examples (case studies, videos, etc) on how your product can help them.

I do not use them at all on my sites.... I removed them because they are annoying to me and if they are annoying to me then they are annoying to my visitors.

Personally I ignore/block/leave sites that do have these popups, they do not make me buy. The product is what makes me want to buy if it is a product I want. If I do not want the product, you sending me 10 emails a day to buy it sure is not going to get me to buy it...

With that said keep in mind that "list building" is not for everyone... I do have a optin box on a few of my sites but not a popup. If they want to subscribe then they will and if not then that is fine too..

James

P.S. The quality of "MY" traffic increased when I removed the annoying things....

[Jagged]

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Excuse a question, please, Nathan, from someone with no involvement but some curiosity: but how do you know that they're sales you wouldn't have had a little later anyway? You're surely not assuming purely that because a sale comes in from an exit pop-up that it's a sale you wouldn't otherwise have got at all??! A sale you "wouldn't otherwise have got at that moment", I can see - but that's an entirely different parameter, isn't it?

Isn't it necessary to compare something like sales per thousand hits over a significant period of time, to judge this?

I agree with Alexa on this....

There are some who actually recommend to "exit the site" before you buy anything.....just to see if there is an exit pop-up with a discount offer.
So some would have purchased anyways at your regular price....but by fishing for a pop-up discount:
A) They saved a few bucks...(good for them)
B) You lost a few bucks...(bad for you)

Hard to get a fair comparison if this takes place....
A sale is a sale....but how many of those "exit pop-up sales" would have happened anyways without one...

Me personally...I think pop-ups of anykind are intrusive & annoying. I do not use them on any of my sites & would most likely leave quickly if confronted with one on someone elses....

JMO,
Ken

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by Jagged

There are some who actually recommend to "exit the site" before you buy anything.....just to see if there is an exit pop-up with a discount offer.

Absolutely. One school of thought is that all you're really doing is reducing your average profit per sale. Maybe some people genuinely benefit from these things over the long term, but you certainly need a lot of reliable figures to prove that.

Originally Posted by Jagged

I do not use them on any of my sites & would most likely leave quickly if confronted with one on someone elses....

Same here. I'm among the people whose potential sales you'll actually lose by having an exit pop-up, because I won't return. And that's not just me being bloody-minded: there are many of us. (Customers and potential affiliates, for those to whom that's relevant.)

[zapseo]

I have to admit that -- though I am a great fan of the big brother to exitsplash (Virtual Smart Agent) -- it's very annoying trying to exit firefox and be tormented with these exit popups.

Personally, if you're going to buy, buy VSA. It's a bit more complicated, but a lot more powerful in what you can do. Even if I DO think creator Dave Guindon has made enough money he could get the dang videos transcribed.

(And I wouldn't even mind the videos that much if 1) he edited them when he made a mistake; and 2) he didn't go off on tangents in the videos. But as long as he does, then please, please, please provide us with the video transcripts for reference. Please...)

Live JoyFully!

Judy

[Matt Willard]

There is no quicker way to lose my interest on a product than an exit popup. I hate hate hate hate HATE these. /Kefka

I'm no sales expert, but I do know that bugging people like that, especially on the Internet, is not a good idea.

[seamusb]

My advice is too avoid all pop ups like the plague.
They make your website look scammy.

Instead use the top left or top right of the website to advertise your products.

[cimbah]

Pop ups - yuck! There is nothing more annoying than a pop up that appears when you try to exit a page. If the sales copy didn't get me to buy, what makes you think annoying me with a pop us is going to do the trick?

seems like to me many are dispeling the myth of how great popups are (as some marketers claim they are the greatest thing since sliced bread) ...lol

look at how many sales you are losing by "ANNOYING" your visitors.... LOL!!

James

[Christophe Young]

I have to admit, I once made a purchase because of an exit popup that had a discount. I think if you are selling an expensive product and offer a good discount via a popup, you might see an increase in sales. The only way to know for sure is to test.

I was thinking of testing an exit popup on my site with a discount.

[Liz-K]

Personally, I hate pop-ups. It's really annoying, so if there are a lot of internet users out there that feel the same way as I do, then I don't think there is any benefit in using them on websites

[xu1]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

seems like to me many are dispeling the myth of how great popups are (as some marketers claim they are the greatest thing since sliced bread) ...lol

look at how many sales you are losing by "ANNOYING" your visitors.... LOL!!

James

The facts are that Popups are an effective way to present an offer and are extremely good tool for obtainining opt-ins.

Exit popups are annoying only because most are using the windows dialog box style which confuses people who want to leave the site immediately without being hassled( not a good ploy )

Exit Popups (not Modal popups ) were only good when the "popunder" feature was enabled, since most of these are effectively blocked by the browsers the only alternative now is the modal popup, which can be very annoying and off putting as it forces against the visitors will to leave.

This is why I did not put the Modal exit Popup feature on my program, yet still the Hover ads are very effective both in presenting Forms or featuring a product.

A lot of the News web sites are using them.

[Kim Davis]

I don't like pop ups at all. They are annoying when you just want to click out and then more and more... GRRRRRRR... but on the other hand I have purchased from an exit pop up before, but that was only because I like everything that person sells.

Originally Posted by xu1

The facts are that Popups are an effective way to present an offer and are extremely good tool for obtainining opt-ins.

Exit popups are annoying only because most are using the windows dialog box style which confuses people who want to leave the site immediately without being hassled( not a good ploy )

Exit Popups (not Modal popups ) were only good when the "popunder" feature was enabled, since most of these are effectively blocked by the browsers the only alternative now is the modal popup, which can be very annoying and off putting as it forces against the visitors will to leave.

This is why I did not put the Modal exit Popup feature on my program, yet still the Hover ads are very effective both in presenting Forms or featuring a product.

A lot of the News web sites are using them.

I am glad, all popups are annoying to me and I will not buy from a site that uses such methods. If I want to join your list then I will, if I want to buy your product then I will... If I do not want some stupid popup annoying me then I will not buy at all...

It seems many others feel the same way and frankly I find it funny ...LOL!!

Not everybody wants to annoy their visitors and not everybody wants to build a opt-in list.

James

[xu1]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Not everybody wants to annoy their visitors and not everybody wants to build a opt-in list.

James

True, and that is why they are not for every one.

Ultimately it is up to you as to what method you employ for your Online Sales, but they do have their place and market research is still in favour to their effectiveness...

Tony

[Clint]

I had used this method and I have found that raised my sales about 18%

This is just my experience to help

Clint S.

[jasonl70]

anyone hear have their own sales page and use analytics?

care to share % returned visitors?

I've got my own reasons to believe that rate is tiny.

[markpocock]

18% extra in sales sounds pretty good to me!

I'm specifically interested in using an exit
pop up to offer a discount.

We've bought from sites using them which we
probably wouldn't have before.

Never under estimate the greed factor. The saving
of $10 or so.

I believe Yanik uses an exit pop-up on his Public
Domain Riches site.

thanks

Mark

[dsmpublishing]

Hi mark

ive read that many complaints about people saying how much it annoys them that i dont have an exit pop up but i do have a entry pop up on my sales pages for my ezine and get great conversion rates from it.

kind regards


sam
X

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by Christophe Young

I was thinking of testing an exit popup on my site with a discount.

How long will it be before your affiliates find out and start promoting something else instead, though?!

[Anonymous Affiliate]

I have an Exit Splash on one of my pages. The exit pop up prompts exiting visitors to an opt-in page where I give away a nice free PDF for opting in.

Results: around 20% of the exiting traffic join my funnel from the exit pop up. You know, recapturing a 20% of lost traffic back into your funnel (to whom you can sell again in the future).

[vagabondette]

Ugh. Hate them. I just wrote about these on my blog: 10 Things That Will Make Me Hate Your Website - Free Marketing Products

IF you use them, don't be an ass about it. I recently had to click through 5 "are you sure you want to leave" popups before I could get off the freaking site. If that won't guarantee that I'll never return nothing will.

Also, for you who use the hover ads - or whatever they're called - that block out the entire screen except for a sign-up box, make sure the close button is on the top of the box. I use a netbook with a small screen and in many cases the close button is below the fold and since I can't scroll down to see it I just end up leaving your site without seeing anything and it turns into yet another one I won't go back to.

The increase in sales might be nice but does it make up for the loss you might be seeing from the people you piss off?

[Raiel Schwartz]

I see many people here saying that "they won't buy a product if the site uses an exit popup" but if you attempted to exit the site (resulting in the popup in the first place) you weren't going to buy to begin with!

I currently do not have an exit-pop up in my salespage, but I am curious as to what effect will I have if I make it go to an opt-in with a free "gift" (PDF report) oppose to a discount. A discount is enticing, but I wouldn't want to devalue my product by employing such tactics.

[hmigroupllc]

You really are off base here.

When properly placed, with compelling followup offers, exit pops of one kind or another do work. Particularly the kind that don't lock up your screen.

My opt ins on my primary blog increased 30% by making making an exit offer, once a day to visitors. My traffic did not decrease at all.

So, because you found a handful of people to agree with you - that the pop ups are annoying to everyone - does not make them correct.

I model off of the millionaires, because they have built success already, and virtually everyone of them uses a strategically placed pop up, upsell, and downsell.

So do what the "whiners" do, or copy success. Which will you choose?

Wayne Sharer

[E-supreme]

Popups are really good for increasing your opt in rate, you can then go and follow up and send them to an alternative sales page without the pop up.

It all depends how you use them and they do work. The Virtual smart agent by dave guindon is a really good piece of software.

I have tested it out and from my results exit popups increase your opt ins and therefore chance to offer the product again t your customer along with other valuable information. By not having one you could potentially be losing out on a lot of subscribersif your site is ranked highly in the SERPS.

[Russell Hall]

Originally Posted by seamusb

My advice is too avoid all pop ups like the plague.
They make your website look scammy.

Instead use the top left or top right of the website to advertise your products.

Some exit popups can look cruddy and it sure does deflate the overall impression for the visitor.

Having said that, some programs do allow scalable html templates through which you can create some really cool looking pop up frames.
I use Robert Plank's Action Popup and have to say its a really great script and also I can use it with my Wordpress sites. It also allows for setting up as an entry popup with delay timer, and has a lot of control factors built in.

I do agree with James (TheRichJerksNet) that more people are getting picky about such annoyances and in many cases will instantly leave the moment they see the popup.

I recently removed my free ebook optin offer exit popup as it wasn't pulling even though the graphics were great and the ebooks were excellent.
I'm now inclined to use the popup to display say 10 seconds after entry and use it as a courtesy flagging notice to draw their attention to something worthhwile on the site rather than asking them to optin. If they wanted to optin I'm sure they'd use the unmissable optin box in the top right hand sidebar anyway.. or subscribe via RSS (nuisance free subscription). I tend to think that the right corner "peelaway" script is one of the best options as its unobtrusive and virtually irresistable to click on just out of curiosity.

Cheers, Russ

[Raiel Schwartz]

My questions

I am going to use an exit popup simply because 18% of more sales is inexcusable to pass up.

1) What is the best "exit popup script" (or atleast one of the most popular...)

2) Is it better to use an Opt-In or a Discount?

Originally Posted by RussRave

I do agree with James (TheRichJerksNet) that more people are getting picky about such annoyances and in many cases will instantly leave the moment they see the popup.

Exactly.. I am a consumer also and frankly I see a site with a popup, I leave. If I was that interested in your product then I would have signed up with a "form" on the site. If you must lower the value of your site and your offer by trying to convince me to signup for your list then your offer must not have been that great to begin with..

I think your product / offer should stand on it's own. I know many will disagree with this but hey to each his own. Personally myself I choose not to devalue my site with such annoying things. I have a opt-in "form" and if someone is that interested they will signup and if not then that is ok too..

James

[Gama Seva]

I must admit that I personally hates pop ups of any kind.
But you know what? because I am an IMer, I know the concept
behind this pop ups and I know exactly how it works.

Now, because I hate pop ups doesn't mean I'm not going to use it
on my marketing, no way!

For other folks that are unaware totally about the idea, popups
works like a charm... It's like an entertainment for them

I have a crappy website that uses both ent. popup and exitpop all at the
same time in a cellphone niche, and yeah, I can say it works with authority.

[Raiel Schwartz]

Can anybody recommend some exit splash up scripts?

Also, in your opinion opt in vs discount?

[Gama Seva]

Originally Posted by Craig.Michaels

Can anybody recommend some exit splash up scripts?

Also, in your opinion opt in vs discount?

Here's the one I'm using ent. and exit splash pop-up
Popup Pro it's very slick, you can even insert youtube video on it
like a breeze.

Both Opt ins and Dicscount pops work well outside IM niche.
I don't recommend using pop ups in IM niche as most of them
knows the tricks. I rather give them limited time upfront discount
that way, you can create urgency.

[Kate C]

I personally am not very keen on exit pop-ups. They usually offer the product for less than the original selling price and I feel as If I am being cheated. It is a marketing gimmick that does work because not everyone minds the downsale tactic. I especially dislike being blocked from leaving a page when I chose to.Hey we are in marketing so test ,test, test. It may work for you if I am not the buyer

[SpyGuy]

Originally Posted by Gama Seva

Here's the one I'm using ent. and exit splash pop-up
Popup Pro it's very slick, you can even insert youtube video on it
like a breeze.

Both Opt ins and Dicscount pops work well outside IM niche.
I don't recommend using pop ups in IM niche as most of them
knows the tricks. I rather give them limited time upfront discount
that way, you can create urgency.

Hey Gama,,,,

Why do you suggest that over the free scripts? And what others have you tested .... If you dont mind me asking.. I am a fellow Toronto'nian