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Old 09-17-2009, 11:12 AM   #1
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I've been manually spinning quite a lot of articles lately and wanted to share with you a couple tips.

Firstly, look to break a sentence down into 2, 3 or 4 parts (depending on how long it is) and then spin short phrases within it. Doing so creates a fair few variations of a sentence whilst keeping the structure and sense of it. For example...

{Making sure|Ensuring} {everyone is|employees are} {working toward|focused on} a {common |}goal {can be|is} as simple as {writing|noting} the goals down and {posting|sticking} them in {a common|an easily visible} area. {To keep employees right up-to-date|Taking this a step further}, {management|managers} {can|could} even plot the progress {toward the goals|being made}. {This is advisable|Try this} because {simply|only} {finding out|being made aware} {at the end of the time period allotted|after the allotted time has elapsed} that a goal was not {achieved|reached|accomplished} {does little to boost|damages} morale.

Secondly, try to vary the length of sentences. I've found this to significantly affect how 'unique' an article is classed as. This is how you can do it...

Often people change career because they feel that they are no longer making progress in their life{, which is something that everyone needs to do.|.}

...this example then gives the following variations...

1) Often people change career because they feel that they are no longer making progress in their life.

2) Often people change career because they feel that they are no longer making progress in their life, which is something that everyone needs to do.

It's easy enough to do and normally raises the level of uniqueness by a percentage point.

As a bonus tip, using a piece of software called 'Power Article Rewriter' makes it really simple to add spinning syntax to an article. If you're spinning articles and not using it, or at least something that does a similar job, then you're missing out.

Finally, before anyone jumps in and says that I'm wasting my time spinning articles, and the whole duplicate content debate kicks off again, I spin articles because I've found that people are more willing to publish them on their websites and blogs if they are at least a bit different from what has already been published elsewhere
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Thanks for the tip. I use Magic Article Rewriter that have more features as the one you use but the one you use works fine as well.
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Thanks for the tip. I use Magic Article Rewriter that have more features as the one you use but the one you use works fine as well.
Agreed MAR is the most full featured rewriter on the market right now, and I own both PAR and MAR.

@OP, thanks for this. I would also recommend using the visual thesaurus alongside any rewriting task, as it really helps in expanding your synonyms and conceptual thinking.

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I use Magic Article Rewriter that have more features as the one you use but the one you use works fine as well.
What extra features does 'Magic Article Rewriter' have?

I can't really think of an extra feature that I need when rewriting articles. I've always been quite satisfied with just the automatic creation of the spinning syntax and an inbuilt thesaurus.

You've turned my head now though. Now I feel like I'm missing out on something
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I tend to restructure complete sentences first, and then rewrite them
to make them unique. I find I only need about 6 unique rewrites per
sentence to give me more articles than I need. My system posts to
dozens of Blogger blogs after rotating keywords in, so this works out
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I follow the tips you mentioned, but I also rewrite entire sentences three to four times with word replacements within each sentence. This always gives me between 40-50% unique for each variation. I've found this really helps me with my rankings especially when I'm targeting long tail keywords. I've got a lot of place where I own the entire front page with my articles and they all point back to my CPA affiliate links :-)

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I tend to restructure complete sentences first, and then rewrite them to make them unique. I find I only need about 6 unique rewrites per sentence to give me more articles than I need.
That is certainly getting a lot of mileage from one article

How about your titles? If you completely rewrite each sentence within the article 6 times then I'm guessing that you rewrite the title at least 20 times.
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I follow the tips you mentioned, but I also rewrite entire sentences three to four times with word replacements within each sentence.
How about your titles too? You give extra attention to spinning those?
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spinning entire paragraphs gets you more milage than replacing words and using things such as {|}... I rewrite each paragraph at least 3 times and that includes summary and title, thus giving me a minimum of 70% in uniqueness.

Plus the fact the spun articles can be used for way more than just submitting to article directories...

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spinning entire paragraphs gets you more milage than replacing words and using things such as {|}... I rewrite each paragraph at least 3 times and that includes summary and title, thus giving me a minimum of 70% in uniqueness.
Another hardcore spinner

Do you spin to this degree even if you're just using an article to acquire backlinks (as opposed to using it to promote something) ?

I can see the value in it if you're looking to taking over the entire first page of the serps, but not so much if you're just building backlinks to your web properties.

From my own experience, spinning short phrases gave me the same number of backlinks as by spinning by paragraph.
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Most of the articles I write are 700+ words long (normally more like 800 - 1,200) so I nomally have 6 - 8 paragraphs. I use articles for all sorts of things and many of those uses I have posted on this forum over and over. Much like Glenn I also have a system that will take the spun articles and submit them to directories (although in upgrade mode at the moment).

Using articles to only submit to article directories is seriously limiting the ability of what articles can be used for.

Example because I spin by paragraph I get a new approach on the article eventhough it is meaning the same thing. Thus I can very well take a spun article and create 3 short reports that can be given away to build an opt-in list. I can title each report differently.

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The buzz is that article writing is the thing to do if you are marketing anything on the Internet. It is the number one choice for marketers to bring people to their web sites as one can add a link in the bio at the end of the article. However, not everyone writes articles for that reason.
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The current thinking going around is that writing articles is one of the best things you can do when you are marketing your products on the web. By far this is one of the top choices for marketers to drive extra traffic to their websites, because as an author you can include links in your resource box towards the end of the article. You should take notice though that not all marketers will do article writing for this reason.
Notice the huge difference in characters used in that one paragraph. By doing this it gives me greater ability to use them as short reports, pdf documents, ebooks, create plr packages and etc...

So it is not always about building backlinks but yes I also can and do use the same method to dominate google.

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By doing this it gives me greater ability to use them as short reports, pdf documents, ebooks, create plr packages and etc...
Very true.

I tend to work with articles of around 300 words but I guess I should consider using longer ones too in order to do the things you've mentioned here and elsewhere on the forum.

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Does MAR put the articles in both of these types of formats with { } and [ ] to put into places like linkjuicer and freetrafficsystem?

I noticed one site wanted articles this way {} and another site wanted [] and if you had the brackets wrong it wouldn't work.

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Does MAR put the articles in both of these types of formats with { } and [ ] to put into places like linkjuicer and freetrafficsystem?

I noticed one site wanted articles this way {} and another site wanted [] and if you had the brackets wrong it wouldn't work.
I'm not sure, but you can always just use the 'replace all' function in notepad or microsoft word. It only takes about 10 seconds to change the syntax to the format you need. This is what I do after using 'Power Article Rewriter'.
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Does MAR put the articles in both of these types of formats with { } and [ ] to put into places like linkjuicer and freetrafficsystem?

I noticed one site wanted articles this way {} and another site wanted [] and if you had the brackets wrong it wouldn't work.
You can always use the search and replace function in the text editor of your choice.

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Thank you, I did not know about search and replace function! Duh!
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Another hardcore spinner

Do you spin to this degree even if you're just using an article to acquire backlinks (as opposed to using it to promote something) ?

I can see the value in it if you're looking to taking over the entire first page of the serps, but not so much if you're just building backlinks to your web properties.

From my own experience, spinning short phrases gave me the same number of backlinks as by spinning by paragraph.
You need to spin your content well 'especially' if you're building backlinks. Otherwise they will be de-valued if the content gets flagged as duplicate.

I only ever use my own system when creating articles. It retrieves varied content each time and then manipulates it. I can vary the length of my articles and include my main keywords in prominent places. Works everytime and offers great results.

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You need to spin your content well 'especially' if you're building backlinks. Otherwise they will be de-valued if the content gets flagged as duplicate.
I've personally not seen this happen. Not to a noticeable degree anyway.

What sort of de-valuing are you referring to? I guess you mean that they pass less 'link juice'. But how much less? 25%, 50%, 75%? And does this apply to every duplicate? Or just every duplicate after the 5th, 25th, 100th one? It's all just speculation and know one really knows.

Plenty of people don't spin their articles at all and still use the backlinks from them to rank other websites highly.
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Yups, these tips are very helpful. Normally, I used to rewrite every time when I do submit articles. However, sometimes, I feel that, it is a boring work, whatever, we can gain quality backlinks.
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Article spinning can be a lot of fun, when you start
reaping the rewards, but a lot of work, in the beginning
of the process, especially when you want to do things
right. I always tell anyone who wants to listen that
article spinning helps you to kill dozens and even
hundreds of birds with one stone, but only if one is
ready to put in the time to produce high quality
spin ready articles.

As for me, the tool hasn't really mattered. Of course
the right tool can help, but I have realized, from my
experience, that it's not the tool that's most
important; what is most important to me has been
the "effort" put into ensuring the spin ready articles
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Article spinning can be a lot of fun, when you start reaping the rewards, but a lot of work, in the beginning
of the process.
Once you get used to it you can definitely pick up a lot of speed. Rather than having to keep stopping and thinking about what word / phrase variation to use, they just pop into your head. You develop a kind of inbuilt thesaurus within your brain.

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Yes, definitely worth putting in that extra bit of time and doing it right. I also highly recommend proof-reading the article several times on completion.

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As for me, the tool hasn't really mattered. Of course
the right tool can help, but I have realized, from my
experience, that it's not the tool that's most
important; what is most important to me has been
the "effort" put into ensuring the spin ready articles
are of high quality.
Even the most basic article spinning tool works just fine. The experience and skill of the person doing the spinning is far more important than the tool being used.
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Does MAR put the articles in both of these types of formats with { } and [ ] to put into places like linkjuicer and freetrafficsystem?

I noticed one site wanted articles this way {} and another site wanted [] and if you had the brackets wrong it wouldn't work.

You can export it these ways and more for instant copying into AMA and MAN as well, saving you a lot of time.

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I've found it works best if you vary the length of the sentences as that helps make the articles more unique.

I've also found that if you spin contractions, that is a great way to help make it more unique, e.g. {don't|do not}.

Also, if you use any specific phrases that are a little out of the ordinary, e.g. you say something like "A bird in the hand is worth ten in the bush" that could stand out is to make sure those are spun too, just to be on the safe side.

The tool, to be honest doesn't matter massively, it is the person doing it that is important. Spinning an article really well to create very unique articles will take a good 30-45 minutes, maybe more depending on your skill, but you then have highly unique articles which you can benefit from.

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I've also found that if you spin contractions, that is a great way to help make it more unique, e.g. {don't|do not}.
I would actually not recommend spinning these.

Although you might raise the uniqueness level by a few percent overall, it's bad practice (English wise) to switch between using contractions and not using them within the same article.

Either way is fine, but I say be consistent.
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I would actually not recommend spinning these.

Although you might raise the uniqueness level by a few percent overall, it's bad practice (English wise) to switch between using contractions and not using them within the same article.

Either way is fine, but I say be consistent.
I would agree also, stay away from trying to be not consistent with your articles....

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Thanks everyone for great tips. This was very useful info for me since
I'm just starting with article spinning. I purchased Magic Article Rewriter
today and it seems to be excellent tool.

I love the feature ' save as talken' : you can make a variation
set like {word 1 | phrase 1 | word 2| word 3| phrase 2} and save it
as a talken. Then you can re-use that ready made set.
If you create many such talkens, you can apply them automatically
and spinning becomes just fast and fun.

But I still don't understand what is the main benefit of spinning.
I take for granted there are benefits or people wouldn't do it.

Given that duplicate content is a myth, what's the main point
of submitting spun articles instead of submitting the exactly
same article? Does it produce more backinks? What else ?

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same article? Does it produce more backinks? What else ?
There are 3 main reasons (as far as I know) for spinning articles...

1) Other people will be more likely to publish your article on their site if it is at least a little bit different from what is already published elsewhere.

2) It provides more mileage from an article. You can use the spun versions to create reports, videos, linkwheels etc.

3) To take up more spaces on the SERP results. Though Google doesn't punish duplicate content as such, it's unlikely that they'll list exactly the same article more than once in one set of search results. By spinning your article then you have a better chance of dominating a page of SERP results.
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When you rewrite those paragraphs do you always make sure that they have the same number of sentences as well?

What about spinning words/phrases too is it not necessary when spinning by paragraphs?

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Most of the articles I write are 700+ words long (normally more like 800 - 1,200) so I nomally have 6 - 8 paragraphs. I use articles for all sorts of things and many of those uses I have posted on this forum over and over. Much like Glenn I also have a system that will take the spun articles and submit them to directories (although in upgrade mode at the moment).

Using articles to only submit to article directories is seriously limiting the ability of what articles can be used for.

Example because I spin by paragraph I get a new approach on the article eventhough it is meaning the same thing. Thus I can very well take a spun article and create 3 short reports that can be given away to build an opt-in list. I can title each report differently.





Notice the huge difference in characters used in that one paragraph. By doing this it gives me greater ability to use them as short reports, pdf documents, ebooks, create plr packages and etc...

So it is not always about building backlinks but yes I also can and do use the same method to dominate google.

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When you rewrite those paragraphs do you always make sure that they have the same number of sentences as well?

What about spinning words/phrases too is it not necessary when spinning by paragraphs?
No my paragraphs do not have the same number of sentences, this is one reason why they hit 70 - 80%+

Spinning words and phrases is why you see many junk articles and many articles that still read the same although they may have a 30% uniqueness..

Huge mistake in my opinion although I know many will disagree with me but that's ok because they have the right to their opinions..

The below is from a popular online service that does it by sentences.

Real Example:
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{Affiliate marketing is considered an easy way for affiliates and merchants to make money online automatically~One excellent way to make steady money online is through affiliate marketing~A good number of merchants and affiliates alike regard affiliate marketing as a great method for achieving a steady and reliable income}. {However, not every affiliate marketing campaign is successful~Still, affiliate marketing is not for the faint of heart~Of course, affiliate marketing is not without its challenges~However, not everyone who enters into the affiliate marketing business will achieve the success they desire}. {Whether you're a potential affiliate or a merchant, it's important that you first understand some of the more common affiliate marketing mistakes and how to avoid them~Affiliates and merchants both need to do their best to avoid the following affiliate marketing mistakes~Below are some common affiliate marketing mistakes that need to be considered by all parties involved before entering into the business altogether}.
Very difficult to work with and read but anyways let's look at this without all that {~} junk ..

Here is how it would read in the article

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A good number of merchants and affiliates alike regard affiliate marketing as a great method for achieving a steady and reliable income. However, not everyone who enters into the affiliate marketing business will achieve the
Now sounds ok and it is readable but you will notice and see a pattern also with the repeat of many words. Nothing wrong with that but if you take the whole article and spin it 10 times like this then you end up with 10 articles that still sound very much alike.

Now let's look at actual paragraphs, this is done by me and not some system and since I do not use none of that {|} {~} junk I can read every line of mine perfectly even before spinning it.

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The buzz is that article writing is the thing to do if you are marketing anything on the Internet. It is the number one choice for marketers to bring people to their web sites as one can add a link in the bio at the end of the article. However, not everyone writes articles for that reason.
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The current thinking going around is that writing articles is one of the best things you can do when you are marketing your products on the web. By far this is one of the top choices for marketers to drive extra traffic to their websites, because as an author you can include links in your resource box towards the end of the article. You should take notice though that some authors actually write just for fun.
Now you see a total difference and not something that looks very very similar like the article above did.

While you can do it either way it is my personal opinion that doing it by paragraphs gives you more unqiueness and helps saves you trouble later on if some directories decide they no longer want articles that sound similar.

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Old 10-25-2009, 10:21 PM   #31
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I agree, it's best to rewrite larger blocks for uniqueness first, but further synonym spinning helps even with acceptance rate into blog networks if you are using AMA or MAN.

Synonym spinning using Magic Article Rewriter is rather unique too, because you can build your own reference of commonly used synonyms that may be specific to your niche. For example I have a lot of poker terms used in my articles that normally wouldn't appear as synonym options from a regular vocabulary. Once you start adding these, they stay in your "library" for future use.

Synonym spinning can only help with uniqueness. My earlier tip about using the VisualThesaurus can really build your database with every article you rewrite.

The types of tags and characters used in spinning software is largely irrelevant IMHO after using many of the top spinners on the market.

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I love spinning, I usually get it up to around 70 - 80%

The thing I love about spinning is that it actually {helps | effects | improves} your writing in general. (Had to do that)

But seriously it really does. If you do a lot of spinning, it makes you think of different words to use AS you are typing and improves the overall quality of your article.

I've compared spun to regular and spun wins.. always.

I don't use any of those tools though, what is the advantage?

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nice tips! thanx.

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Woah... woah... wooooaaahh.... This is getting deep. I think there is way to spin articles/scripts for video and using animoto as a way to "spin" the videos per se. But each new video needs the script basically dumped into the description.

Wow this can do a LOT!

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