Need honest advice on moving ahead...

by rype89 Banned
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Hello fellow Warriors

I've been lurking around for quite a long time now, read through a number of products/wsos/etc. And the reason why I haven't taken much action is because I'm LAZY! A bit unsure here and there, but I see the main reason as me being lazy to type all those articles.

Soon, I've have some capital which will hopefully allow me to outsource as much work as possible. Which includes article writing, backlink building, etc. I'll probably have about $200/month to spend on IM alone. Not much but hopefully enough to get all the boring stuff outsourced. Building a site is the only thing I don't mind learning and doing because personally I find it enjoyable.

So what I need now, is a solid plan, that can be mostly outsourced easily. I'm planning to start out with affiliate/cpa marketing (will work with CB products and CPA offers). Unless you guys think that creating/launching a product would be simpler/more profitable.

If I want to promote a clickbank product or CPA offer, which would be a better choice:

1. A single pre-sell page for one product, using one keyword only, and then just promote it like crazy.

2. Build an "authority-like" site with say... 25 or more articles and promoting multiple products/offers? (some links within the article, some banners and such on the side/bottom... something like an affiloblueprint site)

I'll appreciate any honest opinions.

Thanks
Ryan
#advice #ahead #honest #moving
  • Profile picture of the author stanleyuroy
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    I don't think launching your own product is the first venture you should engage in - but that's your call.

    ( you can mess with mlm at your own risk but don't say you haven't been warned )

    The affiliate model is a great model to start with for a newbie.

    CPA or clickbank offers are fine.

    I personally test a niche's products with a single presell landing page before I bother to buy a domain name and hosting account and build a whole site around a niche.

    You can practice building quality landing pages for free at weebly.com and/or synthasite.com - without any ads on the pages except yours.

    If you've got cash, you can commission articles and then pay to have the articles submitted far and wide via people like article marketer and other content distribution services to generate visitors to your offers.

    And you can also use the same articles to build a site.

    You've got decisions to make and actions to take and that's what online business is all about.

    Since you've got cash, it would be a good idea to purchase a step by step on the model you choose to conduct.

    If it's a bogus course, it's easy to get a refund especially if you purchase via clickbank or paypal.

    Later on you can purchase software products and services that will make your marketing a whole lot easier & faster.

    - Google's site placement ad program is a great way to test and advertise if you don't want to do any work to generate visitors.

    ( someone listed a free $100 google coupon at this forum just yesterday or the day before )


    Also understand that online business is not a one shot deal, it's a ongoing process and if you know what you're doing, you can cheaply test your way to success.

    All The Best!!

    TL

    Ps. Become a master of traffic generation and it will be hard to fail.
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  • Profile picture of the author waihon
    If you want to promote a Clickbank product or CPA offer, I think you should test it out first with a single presell page, using a set of closely-related keywords.

    If you get positive results then you may consider to build an authority or "authority-like" site.
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  • Profile picture of the author rype89
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    Thanks for the replies guys. Okay I have a question regarding keywords. If I'm doing a single presell page, I should only be targetting ONE keyword phrase right? And all the article marketing/link building should be done, also using that keyword for anchor texts/etc?

    Should I go for a keyword with slightly more/stronger competition with more searches, or should I go for a keyword that is very easy to dominate but with less searches?
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    • Profile picture of the author angela99
      Ryan, TL has given you great advice on how to make money when you're just starting out, by skipping the "boring" stuff; I know several people who use this business model with great success.

      You've got the money to invest, so you're golden. :-)

      One thing I'd suggest however, is that you practice doing some of the boring stuff first, before you outsource it -- you need to know how to do article writing, backlinking, etc, so you can judge the work that your outsourcers are doing.

      Once you know what it takes, you can tell your outsourcers EXACTLY how you want something done (use video to train them), otherwise your results can be unpredictable, because you're relying on the skill of your outsourcers without being able to judge their skill (or lack of it.) If that makes sense... :-)

      I wish you much success. IM is HUGE fun. :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
      Originally Posted by rype89 View Post

      Thanks for the replies guys. Okay I have a question regarding keywords. If I'm doing a single presell page, I should only be targetting ONE keyword phrase right? And all the article marketing/link building should be done, also using that keyword for anchor texts/etc?

      Should I go for a keyword with slightly more/stronger competition with more searches, or should I go for a keyword that is very easy to dominate but with less searches?
      Yes, one keyword per article/presell page/anchor text in backlinks. That's the quicker path to getting ranked for that keyword.

      As to your 2nd query, look at the Top 10 at Google to assess the strength of your true competition. Forget all that advice about number of competing pages when searching with quotation marks, etc. etc. blah blah blah. Your REAL competition is that Top 10. Analyze them and if you see a chink or two in the armor, go for it. Just be sure it's worth the effort (ie, the phrase gets a lot of searches).

      John
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      • Profile picture of the author rype89
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        Originally Posted by jasonl70 View Post

        then why are you choosing article marketing?
        Because I believe article marketing is effective, both is getting traffic and building backlinks. Correct me if I'm wrong though. I intend to get the articles outsourced.

        Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post

        Yes, one keyword per article/presell page/anchor text in backlinks. That's the quicker path to getting ranked for that keyword.

        As to your 2nd query, look at the Top 10 at Google to assess the strength of your true competition. Forget all that advice about number of competing pages when searching with quotation marks, etc. etc. blah blah blah. Your REAL competition is that Top 10. Analyze them and if you see a chink or two in the armor, go for it. Just be sure it's worth the effort (ie, the phrase gets a lot of searches).

        John
        Thanks John! Just the answer I was looking for. If you would be kind enough to answer just one more question...

        What would be a relatively easy site to overtake? I believe the 2 main stats to look at would be PR and backlinks? So what PR/backlinks should I look out for? eg. PR of 3 and below? Less than 30backlinks? I know there is no exact answer here, but I'm looking for a rough guide to start with.

        Also I'm still not very sure how to check the exact number of backlinks to the site. I have seoquake installed but all the numbers confuse me. Is there an easier way to check for back links? eg. a simple firefox plugin?
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  • Profile picture of the author rype89
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    Hi Angela. Thanks for the advice. I'm not sure I want to dabble in Adwords just yet, which is why I'm trying to find out more about keywords/research. Adwords can always come in later. Besides, even if I just want to test, I need to know how exactly to write an ad.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
    Originally Posted by rype89 View Post

    And the reason why I haven't taken much action is because I'm LAZY! A bit unsure here and there, but I see the main reason as me being lazy to type all those articles.
    then why are you choosing article marketing?
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  • Profile picture of the author LegitBlogger
    Before thinking of outsourcing I will suggest that you
    DO things yourself first, no matter how small. It's a
    good idea to get into the "feel" of any project, unless
    it's too technical or complicated for you. It's when you
    have "been there and done that" that, I think, it's
    best to outsource afterwards. I remember - I had to
    first master the art of writing dozens and dozens of
    articles DAILY myself before outsourcing it.
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    • Profile picture of the author rype89
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      Originally Posted by LegitBlogger View Post

      Before thinking of outsourcing I will suggest that you
      DO things yourself first, no matter how small. It's a
      good idea to get into the "feel" of any project, unless
      it's too technical or complicated for you. It's when you
      have "been there and done that" that, I think, it's
      best to outsource afterwards. I remember - I had to
      first master the art of writing dozens and dozens of
      articles DAILY myself before outsourcing it.
      I understand where you're coming from, but I strongly believe that if I outsource, I'll get things done more efficiently, and the quality of the articles will be better. I'm looking to outsource mainly article writings. I'm going to be doing most of the other stuff myself.

      I'm sure there are people like you who can churn out tons of articles, but I just don't think that I'm one of them. I'm more or less comfortable with how the process should be. By outsourcing, I'm giving myself a push. Because if I had to write every article myself, I'll probably end up with a half done article and a failed attempt. I know this because I've given it a go once. I wrote a presell page and an article that I submitted to eza. Just those 2 articles took me about 2-3 days. And after that I was way too lazy to write another article about the same topic.
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      • Profile picture of the author rype89
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        Got another question, didn't think I should start a new thread...

        Okay assuming I've got 1 keyword phrase, my presell page up (focused around that keyword), and I want to start doing some article marketing now. Should I bother about other keywords? Eg. submit articles, each based on different keywords and link back to my presell even though my presell does not contain those keywords at all. Or should I only be creating articles based on that one keyword that my presell is focused on?

        Creating multiple articles all on the same keyword would seem kinda weird. Also, should I be trying to submit as many articles as possible, or submit a few, and then focus on building backlinks to both the articles and my presell page?
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