Mass Submitting to Tons of Article Directories?

[LilBlackDress]

Will auto submitting to a number of article directories be an issue with Google?

Thanks!

[Allyn Hane]

who cares right? You don't own the article directories, so dup content is no issue for you.
Now, if you are manually submitting then you may be wasting some time as the more dup content out there, the more discounted the links will be in the eyes of the "G" ... but if you use Article Marketer or a service like that, then submit away and get those links!
AL

[sbp8610]

This will be no issue at all. Submit away.

-Scott

[LilBlackDress]

I was thinking in terms of building links too quickly not duplicate content issues.

Thoughts on if that could be a problem? Also what is some of those directories are unsavory..haha I mean bad neighborhoods. This is a mass submission..any problem there? I would assume all the good ones would outweigh the bad?

[Mr Marketer]

Yes, I thought google frowned upon building up links too soon too.

Also, I was talking to a guy about SEO recently and he said that it matters that you don't use the same IP address for building all those links. Does anyone know if that's true or not?

[LilBlackDress]

If the links are discounted in the eyes of the "G" are they still serving to give a nice backlink because they are discounted some but not a ton?

And if they are not discounted and dup content is not a problem then why the article spinners?

[Adam Carn]

My question is, people submit 5 to 10 articles a day to directories. Is that the limit or can you submit more like 20 - 50 if you're feeling ambitious? I know EZA has a limit of 10 submissions a day, what about other directories?

Adam

[John Rogers]

The time to approve an article in the various article directories varies greatly. Therefore the links appearing in Google will have a natural spread over time. I've mass submitted with no noticable problems in the SERPs.

John

[mark@1to101]

Originally Posted by LilBlackDress

If the links are discounted in the eyes of the "G" are they still serving to give a nice backlink because they are discounted some but not a ton?

Yes they are still counted as a backlink.

Originally Posted by LilBlackDress

And if they are not discounted and dup content is not a problem then why the article spinners?

Because publishers (especially website and blog owners, as opposed to article directory owners) are more likely to accept articles if they are at least a bit different to what has already been published.

Less website and blog owners will publish an article if the exact same article has been published to lots of places already.

Article spinning is about making your article more attractive to publishers, and not about avoiding any duplicate content penalty.

Originally Posted by LilBlackDress

I was thinking in terms of building links too quickly.

If you use an automated service, rather than automated software, then you can have the article distributed at whatever rate you like to overcome this issue. Just set it to distribute 5, 10, 25, 50, etc. a day.

Originally Posted by LilBlackDress

What is some of those directories are unsavory..haha I mean bad neighborhoods.

There's no reason for an article distribution service to distribute to bad neighborhoods because they risk losing customers for doing it.

Anyhow, the problem with bad neighborhoods is really you linking to them, not them linking to you.

[mark@1to101]

Originally Posted by Adam Carn

My question is, people submit 5 to 10 articles a day to directories. Is that the limit or can you submit more like 20 - 50 if you're feeling ambitious? I know EZA has a limit of 10 submissions a day, what about other directories?

It's going to vary for each article directory. However, you can always set up more than one account at any article directories that have too low a limit for your needs.

So long as you're contributing quality articles then I'm sure that they wouldn't have an issue with this.

[Adam Carn]

Originally Posted by mark@1to101

It's going to vary for each article directory. However, you can always set up more than one account at any article directories that have too low a limit for your needs.

So long as you're contributing quality articles then I'm sure that they wouldn't have an issue with this.

Thanks for that Mark.

Adam

[LilBlackDress]

Mark this is excellent info. I always wondered why the spinners.

If you used the exact same content and it was published by a ton of publishers would G give your backlink less of a value?

And how would G decide which article gets to rank higher if they are all duplicates?

Also any problems getting those links to fast?

[mark@1to101]

Originally Posted by LilBlackDress

If you used the exact same content and it was published by a ton of publishers would G give your backlink less of a value?

I really couldn't say for sure. I would speculate that they prefer 'unique' content and that they would therefore give more weight to links that appear on 'unique' pages but this is just my opinion.

Originally Posted by LilBlackDress

And how would G decide which article gets to rank higher if they are all duplicates?

They would look at the date of publishing, how many backlinks point to each, the page rank of the domain, etc.

Originally Posted by LilBlackDress

Also any problems getting those links to fast?

Not for me. I enter my article into various article distribution services and set them up to distribute to 10-20 websites and article directories a day. That seems to me like a reasonable 'natural' rate of distribution.

[NicSennen]

EZA doesn't have a daily limit. You can only submit 10 articles when you first start but once you are platinum you can submit as many as you like. Some people do hundreds a day.

Originally Posted by Adam Carn

My question is, people submit 5 to 10 articles a day to directories. Is that the limit or can you submit more like 20 - 50 if you're feeling ambitious? I know EZA has a limit of 10 submissions a day, what about other directories?

Adam

[wyomble]

Duplicate content will be a problem if you are trying to rank your articles on google as well.

[mark@1to101]

Originally Posted by wyomble

Duplicate content will be a problem if you are trying to rank your articles on google as well.

If you mean if you're trying to dominate the whole first page of Google, then yes, using exactly the same article to do that can be problematic. Google will probably just display one version of it, maybe a couple of versions.

However, others have said that by building a few backlinks to those articles, which are exactly the same, they have managed to take up nearly the whole first page with a completely unspun article.

Even if only one article is being displayed though, the backlinks from the hidden ones are still valid. Google is aware of them but is just trying to make the search experience better for it's users.

[mayapearl]

Originally Posted by mark@1to101

Yes they are still counted as a backlink.




There's no reason for an article distribution service to distribute to bad neighborhoods because they risk losing customers for doing it.

Anyhow, the problem with bad neighborhoods is really you linking to them, not them linking to you.

What do you mean with bad neighborhoods? Could I accidently link to a bad site and what makes a bad site?

[mark@1to101]

Originally Posted by mayapearl

What do you mean with bad neighborhoods? Could I accidently link to a bad site and what makes a bad site?

A 'bad site' is one that is associated with spamming, using underhand tactics, offering a poor user experience, etc.

There's no way of knowing which ones have been flagged as such by Google so you just have to apply some common sense. You can normally tell just by looking at it though to be honest. Does it look like a reputable site? Will it help someone?

You could accidentally link to a 'bad site' but it's unlikely so long as you take a minute to look over any sites that you link to. Even if you did make a mistake, you'd probably be ok so long as you didn't make a habit of it and get caught up in a network of 'bad sites, which is commonly referred to as a 'bad neighborhood'.

[Amenda Jessera]

In my experience, If you try to get massive links within short period and if those articles are cached, then, google will see more links within short time. So, google will give penality.

[Traffic-Bug]

Many people are doing that. If that were prohibited or getting negative rankings with Google, then it wont be done, right? SO I think it is well within google limits. I remember Google has already said if same article is spread out in multiple places, you wont get penalty, at worst it will be ignored, thats all.

[Wilde]

My opinion is to test it for yourself.

Over the years I have read that you should do this, do that, don't do any of these things etc... and have seen people follow along aimlessly.

When in fact the things did make a difference.

My advice to anyone new to IM is to test everything and not to take anything as gospel. Take the advice from others, on forums, in products you buy, but run your own tests.

I am not saying anyone is wrong or right but this is your business what works for one doesn't always work out the same for someone else.

[Gitonga]

Originally Posted by LilBlackDress

Will auto submitting to a number of article directories be an issue with Google?

Thanks!

do you mean auto submiting the same article or differnt articles or a rewritten article?

Otherwise auto submitting by itself is OK,actually saves time.But what you submit and where you submit it determine the results you get.

[mark@1to101]

Originally Posted by Amenda Jessera

In my experience, If you try to get massive links within short period and if those articles are cached, then, google will see more links within short time. So, google will give penality.

What do you define as massive though? 50? 100? 500? 1000?

It's all relative to the site in question. Plenty of well established websites get thousands of links a day (CNN, BBC, Yahoo, etc.) without any problems.

Apply some common sense and take into consideration the authority and age of the website you're building links to and it'll be fine.

[mark@1to101]

Originally Posted by Wilde

My opinion is to test it for yourself.

You have to do this.

Everyone has so many variables with their website (age, authority, other link building methods, on-site optimization, etc.) that it's impossible to make a direct comparison between your results and someone elses.

There's enough people claiming that mass submitting articles works to safely say that it can work for you. However, as it's not a guaranteed method. Try it out and see if it works for you.

It's no big hassle (on time or money) to test the results of mass article submission.

[LegitBlogger]

In my experience, MOST of the hundreds of article directories
out there WON'T approve your articles at the same time, heck
lots won't even approve for several days or weeks. So the fear
of having links too fast is not a very valid fear.

I even have some article directories approving articles that
were submitted several months ago, So - like you have been
advised in here - go ahead and submit away!

[mark@1to101]

Originally Posted by LegitBlogger

In my experience, MOST of the hundreds of article directories out there WON'T approve your articles at the same time, heck lots won't even approve for several days or weeks. So the fear
of having links too fast is not a very valid fear.

Exactly. Also, add on to that the fact that, after they are approved, they still have to be found / cached by Google, and it's doubly safe.

I'm not advising to throw all caution out the window, just that those who limit themselves to getting just a few links a day are holding back their own progress.

[LilBlackDress]

So if I submitted to 600 directories with a spun article in one day...it would most likely be ok as they would be approved over time?

Wilde...I know what you are saying about testing it yourself, BUT if I can learn from someone else's experiences that is a good thing and may save me a lot of time and effort.

[Colin Palfrey]

I asked Google about this before and got a response (Amazingly) that If you use duplicate content or build links to fast it doesn't go against you in that way.
The way they penalize you is to ignore some of your links (just posted) in both cases.

Not a problem as it might help but cant hurt. Unless you are linked to on known adware site, then your in the cack.

[mark@1to101]

Originally Posted by LilBlackDress

So if I submitted to 600 directories with a spun article in one day...it would most likely be ok as they would be approved over time?

How old is the website that you'll be linking to?

And how many links does it already have?

[Richnana]

Instead of submitting all the articles to article directories, spread them out with by posting them to your blogger.com Create a squidoo lens, a hub page, Use your keywords for your titles. Annouce your new article on facebook... then link them all to your website.