Ezinearticles No-Show?

TristanPerry

15 years ago

Have you tried pinging them every day using Pingomatic or Pingler?

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hotconcept 15 years ago

yes. First i social bookmarked them and I ping them regularly.
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mpruben

15 years ago

I've noticed that Ezine Articles doesn't have the clout it used to. My new articles aren't showing and my older articles are lower in the SERPs. Time to move on for me.

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dotslash

15 years ago

Originally Posted by mpruben

I've noticed that Ezine Articles doesn't have the clout it used to. My new articles aren't showing and my older articles are lower in the SERPs. Time to move on for me.

I agree in my experience, EZA doesn't seem to have the same power as a year ago even. Noticed a lot of other directories which seem to be leapfrogging them in the niches I target, which is for the good I think.

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bork

15 years ago

Have you tried also submitting your EzineArticles author RSS feed to rss directories like feedage, feedagg, and zimbio?

I find that helps get your sites indexed quite quickly.

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hotconcept

15 years ago

yes, submitted the rss feeds. I am wondering if the period of weeks where they were not approving articles somehow disconnected them from Google spiders.?

move on to where? nothing else comes close to what ezine used to do.

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mpruben

15 years ago

I'm still getting results from Article Base, although not as good as EzineArticles used to be. To be honest, I think the whole article/bum marketing thing is done. You'll get better results from Web 2.0 (Squidoo etc) nowadays. Articles help with backlinks but not much else.

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hotconcept

15 years ago

Squidoo is still article/bum marketing. As long as you can get your links to rank in Google for free, it still works.

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sf_Imtiaz

15 years ago

Originally Posted by hotconcept

I made a barrage of articles in Ezinearticles at the end of August. These articles were using good keywords from MNF. Ezine had problems and the articles took over 3 weeks to be reviewed.

Now that they are online, they are not showing up in Google at all. These are good keywords deemed to be very good by the best keyword tools, yet they are barely showing up in Google at all.
Im used to getting first page. I was wondering if anyone else had this experience ? Its like Google was ignoring ezine. A couple were almost identical titles to older ones that ranked on page one and the older ones are still ranking page one and mine are nowhere in sight.

whats going on?

Well, how good a keywords is, doesn't have anything to do with getting indexed. A good keyword doesn't improve your chances of getting crawled and indexed. "Good keyword" could mean several things but usually it means that the keyword has a good chance of getting top position in SERPs with little to no effort.

Now the fact that your article is published at EZA is supposedly enough to get you indexed but since your article didn't get indexed (and this only perpetuate the idea that EZA is loosing it's weight/quality score) you can use some web2.0/social bookmarking sites to bookmark your article, that hopefully will get your article indexed, backlinks would help too if you have the time to build some.

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hotconcept

15 years ago

yes did quite a bit of social bookmarking with these articles.

they are there on Google by the way but way way back somewhere. As an experiment i did one as a clone of an article that always shows up on page one, spot 3. Its almost an exact copy, yet my newer version is buried and that older one still ranks.

I was just wondering if anyone had this experience lately.

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sf_Imtiaz

15 years ago

Time stamp of a page is also a factor of SEO (assuming both the original and clone articles are on EZA)

Can you clarify what it means when you say "clone". Do you mean that you cloned an article with a different keyword and same keyword frequency as the original one and other counting factors such as backlinks were also replicated or did you clone it for the same keyword?

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NicholasCarter

15 years ago

I can't give you a definite answer but did you use your keywords in your title? that will help

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waken

15 years ago

How long those articles have been online?

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hotconcept

15 years ago

yes to clone aprox same keyword frequency, same keywords, very similar title etc.

yes keywords first in title.

I have to believe that since two strange things happened with ezine, that there is a conncection.

this was the first time it took over three weeks to get articles approved. they sent out letters apologizing for the huge delays etc. when the articles went live, no placement in google. I have to think there is a connection, and ill try again.

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hotconcept

15 years ago

articles online about a week

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waken

15 years ago

If you can find them on SE using the search string:

site:ezinearticles.com your article title

it means the article has already been followed and indexed but not ranking on the first page is totally another issue..

Check to see if those keyphrases that you're targeting are still has the same amount of competition etc. That could be another reason. And it may not be a good idea to bookmark your articles the minute after they have been approved. I usually wait a day or two before doing the bookmarking.

Then, review your EZA statistic to see which article has the highest CTR. Build backlinks etc. to that articles and that could probably move the article up the SE ladder.

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hotconcept

15 years ago

yeah i think someone turned off the ezinearticle switch.

I just tried these three normal searches

hemorrhoid

asthma

make money online

warts

learn guitar

learn another language

Now i realize these arent keywords, but .....
on these searches, NO ezinearticles show up for two or three search pages. I usually can throw any article with decent keywords and have it on page one.

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TheRichLife 15 years ago

I don't understand the EZA attraction. I'm still fairly new to the IM world, so they might have been the be all, end all resource at one point. But to me, they're a big waste of time. You spend at least a week hoping your article meets their criteria, and maybe gets listed...for what? So you can spend a bunch more time back linking to it, only to see it eventually fade in the SERPs anyway.

Out of curiosity, I bought a url, and made a 1 page site. I then wrote an article using the exact same title for the article as I used for the title tag on the site (both long tail). I optimized both for that same long tail key word set. I did identical back linking for both the article and the site. As of right now, the site (which is pr0) ranks #2. The EZA article ranks #10 on Google. I know that over time, my site will improve it's standing in the SERPs, whereas the article will continue to fall.

Today, if somebody clicks my site (at #2) they're on my site. If somebody clicks the EZA article (at #10) there is a 30% chance (my current CTR on this article) that they'll end up on my site.

Now, I recognize that one testing instance doesn't make a scientific study, and I'm sure others have had better success with EZA than I. However, to me, EZA is a complete waste of time, unless you are bum (i.e. don't have a web site) marketing.

Based upon my testing, if you own a web site, throwing an article up on EZA for the back link has some value. However, if you're back linking to the EZA article in hopes of traffic to your site, you're wasting your time. You're way better off putting the content on your own site and back linking to it.

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GuerrillaIM

15 years ago

I don't agree with the people saying EZA doesnt rank well. Every article I post gets indexed almost immediately

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TheRichLife

15 years ago

Originally Posted by GuerrillaIM

I don't agree with the people saying EZA doesnt rank well. Every article I post gets indexed almost immediately

What does indexing have to do with ranking? Yes, an article on EZA gets indexed right away, but you can also get a brand new web site indexed the first day.

If you're using long tail, low competition key words, you can also get you brand new web site ahead of an EZA article in no time. As a matter of fact, one of the things I look for to judge keyword competition is where the 1st EZA article ranks. If there's an EZA article in the top 5 SERPs, to me, that's a lay-up to outrank.

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GuerrillaIM

15 years ago

Originally Posted by TheRichLife

What does indexing have to do with ranking? Yes, an article on EZA gets indexed right away, but you can also get a brand new web site indexed the first day.

If you're using long tail, low competition key words, you can also get you brand new web site ahead of an EZA article in no time. As a matter of fact, one of the things I look for to judge keyword competition is where the 1st EZA article ranks. If there's an EZA article in the top 5 SERPs, to me, that's a lay-up to outrank.

Once an article is indexed you can do SEO to get it ranked. The people moaning about their articles not ranking on the keywords they chose either didn't do their keyword research or SEO properly. Perhaps both. Sorry if it's a hard line to take but it's what I believe.

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TheRichLife

15 years ago

Originally Posted by GuerrillaIM

Once an article is indexed you can do SEO to get it ranked. The people moaning about their articles not ranking on the keywords they chose either didn't do their keyword research or SEO properly. Perhaps both. Sorry if it's a hard line to take but it's what I believe.

Guerrilla,

If that's what your testing has shown you, by all means keep with the program. My testing has shown me different, so I won't bother with EZA anymore.

From my testing, the value of publishing an article on EZA as compared to publishing it on my own site, is none. The EZA article may drive more traffic to my site in the first week after approval, but over time, it's not even close.

Like I said, my little experiment used the exact same key words, and similar link building. When I say similar, the differences were that some sites (such as Digg) won't accept links to EZA articles. Other than that, the link building was the same.

I'll take my site's #2 ranking with 100% CTR over an EZA article with #10 ranking and a 30% CTR everyday of the week. Not to mention, while I'm waiting for EZA to decide whether or not to approve my article, my site is already bringing traffic.

I'm sure there are plenty of people making money doing nothing but article marketing with EZA. My testing tells me my efforts are better spent elsewhere. There's obviously more than one way to skin the IM cat.

I wish you much success!

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hotconcept

15 years ago

TRL,

I understand what you are saying and what you are saying makes sense but. Are you talking about making one main niche website and gradually increasing traffic and page rank,you know making a popular website the hard way, or are you talking about making multiple mini sites as opposed to articles? Just curious.

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TheRichLife

15 years ago

Originally Posted by hotconcept

TRL,

I understand what you are saying and what you are saying makes sense but. Are you talking about making one main niche website and gradually increasing traffic and page rank,you know making a popular website the hard way, or are you talking about making multiple mini sites as opposed to articles? Just curious.

hotconcept,

In this particular case, I was talking about making one mini site out-rank one EZA article that was optimized identically for the exact same key words.

If you built a larger (authority) site, and added the article as a new page on the site vs the same article posted EZA, I believe it would be no contest. I think the article as a new page on your authority site would blow an EZA article away.

Like most IM folks, I'm not interested in publicizing details my sites, or the niches I've working in, on this forum; but if you send me a pm, I'd be willing to share some more specifics with you.

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hotconcept

15 years ago

Originally Posted by GuerrillaIM

Once an article is indexed you can do SEO to get it ranked. The people moaning about their articles not ranking on the keywords they chose either didn't do their keyword research or SEO properly. Perhaps both. Sorry if it's a hard line to take but it's what I believe.

Well we all believe what we want to believe dont we. All I can tell you is I research keywords manually through the google keyword tool, i back them up with micro niche finder and on occasion i test them by putting them on adwords to see the impressions.I check the page rank of the page one articles.
Since i am talking about articles, I then use a multi pinger, and social submit to about thirty social sites. I also backlink each article to another blog or two and submit alternative articles to another ten article directories. And thats just the beginning.
I was talking about a particular phenomena here about ezinearticles. In case you didnt know, they were over swamped and couldnt review the articles. I still have articles waiting from 8/30. At the same time I notice very little ezinearticles showing up in any searches. Especially new ones. If one does happen to show up, its old.

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hotconcept

15 years ago

yes indexing and ranking are two different things. All of my articles are indexed, but not ranking at all, and according to everything they should be.

The rich life, what you say makes some sense. I went in a couple of directions. I first made a site, put lots of good offers on it, increased the traffic etc. no one bought a thing. they would all click away, but never convert. Now i know most will jump in here and say its my fault. I tried everything. Even CPA offers that required NOTHING and these people would not budge. I now pretty much ignore the site, and have over 300 visitors a day that just browse. There are plenty of targeted offers on there.

So I went to article marketing. I like to write a bit, so i gave that a shot. I tried all the article sites, goarticles, scribd, etc etc. Whenever i posted an article to Ezinearticles, it made googles first page and i got a decent amount of views. Not huge as expected though. I would use a keyword with over 2500 exact matches, make the top 3 of Google and get only 300 views. 300 views from the third spot(WTF) (I can Prove it)

So anyway thats the attraction of ezine. Normally, you post an article with the right keywords, and you can get to Googles front page. None of the other article sites did that for me, even for an identical article.
So, if i posted a squad of articles on ezine, i made some sales. The articles i posted on other sites did nothing, hardly show up on google.

But as i say, now, something is happening folks, very few ezinearticles showing up for most keywords and searches. I thought maybe someone else noticed this.

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hotconcept

15 years ago

Thanks i will pm you soon. But then how are you promoting the mini sites? Adwords? or you are back to articles and such to promote the mini site. I found Adwords to be very expensive, thats how i drifted into article marketing and such.

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TheRichLife

15 years ago

In this particular case, I wanted to keep it apples to apples, so the site was only promoted by linking from the same 2.0 sites that I linked to the EZA article. The only exception was a couple of 2.0 sites wouldn't link to EZA.

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hotconcept

15 years ago

So you would use sites like digg,to get traffic to your mini site. yes a few of them dont like eza.
But the allure if you will of article marketing is to get that big one. the article that gets 3000 views or 15000 views over time.
I dont usually see my social bookmarking coming up that much on google with the exception of digg. Digg comes up well, very fast, but then leaves very fast. I dont usually see the others come up on the search engine at all. I do get traffic from them, but not staggering.
I guess the allure of article marketing is that you are hopefully getting free google views,
views from the article directory itself, views from the social marking, and hopefully a ton of views from google placement. You know those mythical articles with 3-15000 views.

Heres a good example, google quick acne cure. There should be an eza at number one spot. Its from 2005. Look at the number of views.

Im just thinking aloud here, I will pm you soon.

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redrossero 15 years ago

I've noticed this for a few months now. And the OP is right when he says that most of the people coming to your websites from search engine are just browsers.
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gregbanks

15 years ago

Originally Posted by hotconcept

I made a barrage of articles in Ezinearticles at the end of August. These articles were using good keywords from MNF. Ezine had problems and the articles took over 3 weeks to be reviewed.

Now that they are online, they are not showing up in Google at all. These are good keywords deemed to be very good by the best keyword tools, yet they are barely showing up in Google at all.
Im used to getting first page. I was wondering if anyone else had this experience ? Its like Google was ignoring ezine. A couple were almost identical titles to older ones that ranked on page one and the older ones are still ranking page one and mine are nowhere in sight.

whats going on?

I've found that getting a bunch of articles posted at once don't yield much interest. It's far more beneficial to have them posted in smaller blocks of 3-5 or so.

That's from my experience anyways.

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