FFS - How MUCH is this whole making money on the net going to COST??

by coolbutters 85 replies
So, the usual story...
A man is made redundant, he and his wife have their first child due end of July 2017...and, they need the bank to say yes to more finance, to complete a renovation that will make their hose liveable.

It's me... decided to look at this thing, of making money on the internet. I'm looking at affiliate marketing, blogging, and e-courses. Following "a few people on the internet", of note:
Derek Halpern
Frank Kern
Ramit Sethi
Neil Patel

They say:
Find a niche
Drive traffic
Get a list,; and
Sell them stuff.....Seemed easy enough.

I spent a lonnnng time trying to fins his niche. Then a lonnng time deciding on a domain name. But then the learning curve takes a sharp upward turn.

See, I got hosting, trying to build my site on wordpress...brought a premium theme and then after a lot of mucking around..I thought....farrrk, how hard is this going to be.

Then there is the disclaimers you need in the footer....jesus....this is batshit crazy

Now, then I find I need a payment process account (Stripe) - something else to work out how to use,
SSL certification,
Drip email sequence autoresponder - $41/month, still need to work out how to use this,
Gravity forms - but to have a quiz plugin included it's $199/year
Video hosting $99/month

Then thereis building landing pages, thankyou pages, confirmation pages and the like with leadpages....that's more bloody money.

Then paying for traffic and ads....

How much does it REALLY cost to have website that will make money from blogging and e-courses...and recommending a "book of the month" for an affiliate sale.

Why isn't there just one service that can do it all...it's 2017 for christ's sake....aaaaaargh
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Why isn't there just one service that can do it all...it's 2017 for christ's sake..
    When you had a job - did you show up for work...or did someone else do it for you? Did you train for jobs you had?

    The biggest problem for new people working online is the failure to recognize this is WORK - you have to learn what to do (i.e., train yourself) - you have to decide what is necessary - and what is irrelevant.

    they need the bank to say yes to more finance, to complete a renovation that will make their hose liveable.
    Without a job and starting a new endeavor online - not a good time to take on debt. When earning a living is the problem - a home renovation is probably not the answer.

    Yes, every expert will give you another list of "must do" - as a thinking person it's up to you to research the methods people use to make money online...decide which method will work best for you (with YOUR skills and knowledge/interests)...and then tune out everything except what you need to do to get started on your chosen method online.

    You don't need to know it all - but you do have to start at the beginning.

    I strongly advise you to stay away from the "make money online" niche - it's overcrowded with newbies and dominated by guru-types. If you haven't made money online - how can you advise others how to do it?

    If you need money without a long startup time - look into providing a service such as writing web content or ghost writing books, etc. It's more like a "job" but not hard to get income flowing on freelance sites if you are fairly competent.

    Saving one dog may not change the world - but forever changes the world of one dog.

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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    Of course, you understand the gurus are here to make money off YOU. Each one will tell you that you need this, or you need that, and oh, . . . by the way . . . "purchase through my link."

    All the stuff you've been buying and wasting your time on is not necessary when you're just starting out.

    There are ways to start a simple business with a free WordPress theme, a simple autoresponder service ($41/month? - why?), a $ .99 domain name, hosting account (less than $5/month), and you're good to go. I know you can get started online very cheaply . . . I did it and many others have too.

    The best advice I can give you is this:

    Hustle and find a local job that will take care of your family. Given your track record of spending long amounts of time on simple online tasks (like identifying a niche, finding a domain name, setting up a WP site) that are easily done when you know how, you can't afford to put off your family's financial needs any longer.

    Learn how to get started online in your spare time - nights and weekends - by coming to this forum and researching and learning about online business without wasting more of your money.

    So, in direct answer to your question - "How MUCH is this whole making money on the net going to COST??"

    It's all up to you and what you decide you need to spend. Do it the expensive way like you've been doing . . . or do it the inexpensive way like others have done. If you don't like the way you've done it, then change your approach.

    The very best to you,


    Steve Browne, online business strategies, tips, guidance, and resources

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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Yes, I know I am 'following' my own post....but....

    I answered above and then looked at the OP's posting history. At what point does someone stop being a "newbie"?

    decided to look at this thing, of making money on the internet.
    Except you were posting as a "newbie" in 2010 - and in 2014 said you had stopped buying stuff and had a 'breakthrough'. You had some good advice in that thread - and that advice applies as well today.

    If you've been playing around with IM for 7 years or more - you know enough to earn money online. If you can't apply what you've learned by now - you need to find another job. I'm not being facetious - there's a point at which you fish or cut bait and if you've lost your job....that time is now.

    Saving one dog may not change the world - but forever changes the world of one dog.

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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    However, you can get an SSL certificate for free for your WP site if you really want one.
    Here's a free way:

    Let’s Encrypt is a free, automated, and open certificate authority brought to you by the non-profit Internet Security Research Group (ISRG).
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    First off, good luck getting a bank to finance anything if you've just been laid off and your whole plan is "Internet Marketing".

    Second, you don't need to start building a course. You need cash flow, especially with a baby due. Wipe the stars out of your eyes and step up. You may end up with a shit job that pays the bills, but it will pay the bills and does not have to be forever.

    Third, like Steve mentioned, guru marketers are first of all marketers. They make their money by getting you to spend yours. How many of these gurus, no matter how well-intentioned they might seem, recommend things that don't have affiliate programs? It's how the system works.

    Last, a SSL cert is going to be a necessity because without one, Chrome users are going to be seeing warnings about phishing and hacking on the site. The good news is that you don't have to follow an affiliate link and buy one. I got mine through a link on my cPanel, free and only took a couple of minutes.

    If Kay is right (and she usually is on these things) and you are still looking into MMO after seven years, you really, really need a paycheck to support your family and your online hobby.
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  • Profile picture of the author agmccall
    It costs as much as you spend. It is different for everyone.

    You might want to spend $100.00 to $300.00 per month for clickfunels, where someone else will do it themselves for the cost of basic hosting and autoresponder, or someone who buys a WP plugin to create their funnel for a one time fee of $39.00

    You might want VPS hosting for $50.00 per month where someone else will make due with shared hosting for $6.00 per month.

    The list goes on. You pick what you need and want and that is your cost


    Making money is art and working is art and good business is the best art. ~Andy Warhol~

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