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Old 09-22-2009, 02:18 PM   #1
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Hi all,

I joined EZA back in July of 2007. I never sign in there so of course I never check my stats. Well, today I did and here is what I found.

Article(s) Views
105

Profile Views
83

Articles Published
8

URL Clicks
9

Live Articles
1

Following the stats above and making a reasonable projection could I think this?

IF I had just faithfully written and submitted 5 articles a day until now and stopped today and never wrote another article that would have been around 3650 articles to date.

In two years from today I would have in the neighborhood of

Article(s) Views
383250

Profile Views
302950

Articles Published
29200

URL Clicks
32850

Live Articles
3650

And here is the kicker. I can trace one $12 sale to that article. So based on the stats in time I'd make at least $43.800

So lets see.....

5 articles a day is about 1 hour a day. That's around 730 hours for $43,800

$43,800/730 hours = $58.90 an hour. Oh well.

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So lets see......

I wrote 10 articles in a spesific niche back in 2007. Submitted to EZ, and sosial bookmaked them one place. Yesterday I made 2 sales from those articles.

so 50 bucks a day for 2 years = 36.500

If you had 3650 articles like that you can multiply with 365= $13.322.500

Seriously, though. I have not made 36.500 dollars from those articles, but they turn in a few sales each week.

My point is that you can't calculate how a method works based on these small numbers. You have articles that stick and articles that dies. You have 12 dollar commission products and you have 200 dollar commission products.

Be smart, find the right keywords, and use what work to get new ideas and implement those.
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Just imagine if you also used eye catching headers text in your articles then would have made double
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Default Re: WOW Article Marketing just might work after all. 383,250 Views? And $43,800?

George my stats are a lot more than that and I can contribute ZERO sales to those stats.

So my guess is that thinking this way is only merely being positive about it all.

I'm moving into a new strategy.

5 articles a day which in the past 5 days, I have achieved more than 25 articles but not to submit them to directories but to a blog and earn from adsense.

I want a good keyword researcher, not for min sites but for tech articles. Hit me up if you've got those skillz!
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So lets see......

I wrote 10 articles in a spesific niche back in 2007. Submitted to EZ, and sosial bookmaked them one place. Yesterday I made 2 sales from those articles.

so 50 bucks a day for 2 years = 36.500

If you had 3650 articles like that you can multiply with 365= $13.322.500

Seriously, though. I have not made 36.500 dollars from those articles, but they turn in a few sales each week.

My point is that you can't calculate how a method works based on these small numbers. You have articles that stick and articles that dies. You have 12 dollar commission products and you have 200 dollar commission products.

Be smart, find the right keywords, and use what work to get new ideas and implement those.
You not taking George serious are you
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Your stats would probably be better than your projection as you'd probably have improved as you went along. Most experienced article marketers can get a 25-30% CTR (I had 30,000+ URL clicks back when I had only 200 articles submitted).

Plus you'd definitely want a higher average number of article views. Some articles will get thousands of views and some will bomb and only get about 50, but you'd definitely have a higher average if you'd submitted over 3000 articles. If you were promoting higher commission products as well it's likely you could have earned over $100,000.

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If I had listened to my wife and invested in Dell Computers when I lived a block away from their startup way back when ( they were going door to door trying to get investors) I probably wouldn't be reading about article marketing

You never know who might get a hold of your articles and publish them on their sites. I had one of mine featured on a Family Magazine (parents guide to video game systems) and got a ton of traffic from it while they had it published.
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George,

My most popular article on EzineArticles has earned 3,635 views and 530 clicks to my web site since July 2009. My least popular article has earned 16 views and 0 clicks to my web site since December 2008.

If every article performed like the most popular article, I'd be ecstatic (and yes, it's brought me sales). But if every article performed like the least popular article, I'd give up.

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George -
Just Imagine if you wrote 1,000 articles a day! I think we should also get out our calculators and see how much we would make if we wrote that many articles a day for 2 years...

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Your stats would probably be better than your projection as you'd probably have improved as you went along. Most experienced article marketers can get a 25-30% CTR (I had 30,000+ URL clicks back when I had only 200 articles submitted).

Plus you'd definitely want a higher average number of article views. Some articles will get thousands of views and some will bomb and only get about 50, but you'd definitely have a higher average if you'd submitted over 3000 articles. If you were promoting higher commission products as well it's likely you could have earned over $100,000.
Actually, according to the CEO of Ezine Article the average article only gets viewed 20 times total EVER!

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Actually, according to the CEO of Ezine Article the average article only gets viewed 20 times total EVER!
True, and I think I read the average CTR is something really low like 3%. We're marketers though so surely we should be able to do alot better than that? Most people haven't a clue when it comes to article marketing. I have an average of 31% CTR and an average of 500 views per article (I do have a few that were only viewed about 20 times though).

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My most popular article on Ezine was one of the first I ever wrote. to date it's had 21,359 views. The bio is lousy, the headline so-so. I wish I knew then what I know now about article marketing ;-)

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I agree with Hamida, if you don't position your links properly at the bottom of your article, your click through rates will be dismal. Unfortunately, I didn't figure this out until later in the game. But with my newer articles, I often see clickthrough rates reach 20 or 25% Before, it was much lower. It is shocking but if you position your links correctly, you can get a much higher CTR.

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Add some backlinks to your articles and combine that with some press releases......your views and CTRs will go through the roof!

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Come on, George.

You know better then to make estimates on a single article. As someone that has written and submitted 100+ articles to EZA, I can tell you that there is no "average" article.

Some will never get more than just a handful of views (and no clicks). Others, even in the same niche and quality, will get thousands of views and hundreds of clicks.

Ah, if article marketing were that easy.

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Ezine articles is really hit and miss.

Sometimes you'll post an article that you think is nothing special and it gets hundreds of views in just a couple hours. Other times you'll post one that you think is the best thing since sliced bread and no one looks or clicks.

It's like any other kind of marketing to human psychology - you have to test and mess around and see what works. It's impossible to predict it to a certain level.

However, the more articles you write, the larger your chances of stumbling onto that golden hit article are. A

nd of course, if you're using strategies like Jack Duncan's EZA Success Spying method and directing your articles purposefully as explained by guys like Jeremy Kelsall and Casey Gentles then I feel that it's inevitable that you find good success eventually.

One thing I feel strongly about, though, is that you can't rely JUST on EZA. You have to repurpose that same content across multiple platforms - video, PDF, RSS, Powerpoint, social networking, social bookmarking, etc. That's where you really magnify the power of it.

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Lol. I didn't think that the original post was all too serious, considering the 5,000+ posts gtom George, however. I think that EZA is a total powerhouse when you know what you are doing, so is any other "marketing platform"...

Take you articles, do 5-10 per day, when you wake up make it routine to do it, then do whatever you do, then create 5-10 videos of the same content, upload it using "mass distribution", article marketer, submityourarticle, UAW, Traffic Geyser, the social bookmark the biggest sites, YouTube, EZA, Squidoo, Hubpages and then also Tweet about your new content...

Boom! Big fat instant traffic for the day, repeat =)

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I'm still new at this. Where is the best position for your links to maximize CTR?
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I know I get about 150 views for every article I submit. I get about 25 url clicks and make about 2-3 sales for every article I write and submit. But I do not judge my success on the front end. My goal is to build a mini empire and have several niche sites with lists of anywhere between 500-1000 each. This is actually pretty easy to do when you spend a little of the money your articles generate to scale things up. With the income from my articles leveraging my paid methods to quicken the process, the one two punch is devastating.

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Thanks for the post George.

From my point of view its not about the figures that you projected but about the principle. It's easy to write a few articles and submit them then not see a gret deal of results and just give up on it.

But its about consistency. By continuing to write and submit articles you would spread your reach far wider over the internet and got a lot more hits and probably a lot more sales which would have allowed you the time to grow your business.

This post gives me a bit of a boost as I am still at the beginning of my article marketing activities but if I stick with it then maybe I'll get 380,000 views some day.

Here's hoping.

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It is about consistency, but also about "What was Was"! It's gone...

The future is now! So:

Your figures look fabulous and are a great goal to focus on, you will do it!

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George,
I'm a newbie to article marketing, but so far I have 13 articles live (7 pending), am trying to submit 2 per day. I have a total of 321 views and 48 clickthroughs, and am getting about 15% of the clickthroughs to subscribe to my email list. Don't know if this is great, good, or poor, but it's a start! Just keep trying different strategies, and concentrate on the ones where you see results. Good luck!
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That would be nice if projections worked like that.

The reality is that you quickly run into diminishing returns.

Article marketing on a massive scale still works. You just can't project from 1 article to over 3,000 in a straight line. More likely you can multiple your numbers from that one article by 50 or 100 to get the real projections for what would have happened with over 3,000 articles submitted over that time.

It's nice to dream sometimes though. Thanks for sharing the dream!
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Just Imagine if you wrote 1,000 articles a day! I think we should also get out our calculators and see how much we would make if we wrote that many articles a day for 2 years...
Ha! It's funny because it's true. Certainly I wasn't the only person who would make wild predictions using the power of math when I was a newbie.

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I have written 1500 articles, and made only less than $6000 thus far.


So I am not even seeing the same results here... with increased articles... on the same website...lol
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If I had listened to my wife and invested in Dell Computers when I lived a block away from their startup way back when ( they were going door to door trying to get investors) I probably wouldn't be reading about article marketing

You never know who might get a hold of your articles and publish them on their sites. I had one of mine featured on a Family Magazine (parents guide to video game systems) and got a ton of traffic from it while they had it published.
I also have a .edu backlink from the same article.
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The most frustrating part of submitting to EzineArticles for me is never knowing how long your article will stay in the "Other Recent EzineArticles from the _______ Category:"

Sometimes I find what appear to be slow moving low competition niches and after my article gets accepted only stays on that "recent" list for a couple of days.

There is no way of knowing how many people are submitting to that category at the same time you are and therefore you can be knowcked down before you even start backlinking.

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George--I can appreciate your concept and have to agree that while you may not be able to directly extrapolate those kind of numbers, the bottom line is that EZA works for me. As a relatively new user, I have had great success when writing keyword rich titles. Now by success I mean Google first page results, the profile views and click throughs on the article for me are the gravy!
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I thought 'WOW'! Really with article marketing gives that much money? I know it works, but this much money? After reading it, it was just numbers.

But are you sure you can calculate those big amounts just based on some small data?

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I know Ezine is the best article submission site, but I just don't understand how someone would dedicate all that effort and time to them? They own the content, they get the ad clicks and they can take your content down anytime they please. Why not build your own authority blog and post X amount of articles a day?!

One of my blog posts last week received 1500 uniques in a day and made zero revenue. Another one had several visits and got me a £200.00+ commission! Going off estimates from one article just doesn't work.

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It is about consistency, but also about "What was Was"! It's gone...

The future is now! So:

Your figures look fabulous and are a great goal to focus on, you will do it!

Best Wishes,
Yes, I totally agree. Consistency IS they key.
I learned the hard way. I was focusing on two many
things at the same time and couldn't make a dollar
for many years.

It seems like everything works whether making money from

adsense
article marketing
amazon sites
clickbank
forum marketing
yahoo answers
cpa
review sites
craiglist
social marketing
creating your own product
jv projects
list building
etc

The list goes on and on. But the point is
everything works. The key to success is
whether you stick to one of them, refuse
to give up and press forward until the
breakthrough.

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George more than 4.7 million posts to Warrior forum !!!!!!

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3650 articles with average of 400 words, @ .3c per word you'd make $43,800.

Make them into PLR and sell either as reccuring membership package or, as a few others are doing, sell limited copies of 10 or so articles at a set price.

What I'm trying to say is, you could make the assured money with your article writing. Or, take your chance with affiliate marketing.

Just like gambling, it has both it's benefits and pitfalls.

PLUS, lol sorry, If you increased your article CTR rate to about 50% (which isn't hard, Mine average over 50%) you'd see an even higher increase in revenue from the article marketing method.

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I'm not sure about your projections but who wouldn't want to be Sean R. Mize right now?

I'm sure he's got some stellar figures he's keeping close to his chest.

19,333 articles!, he's a testament to what you can achieve if you're consistent, the guy's an article machine.

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What really bugs me is all the money I spent on programs/trainings that didn't make me money. If I had spent that money on developing articles instead. Oh, it makes me angry thinking about it lol.

Isn't it amazing how we focus on the quick and now, rather then taking the time to write those articles? Sure they won't make me rich today, but over time that really does add up.

You do have to be smart about it though. Track what articles are making sales, and build upon that.

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Your stats would probably be better than your projection as you'd probably have improved as you went along. Most experienced article marketers can get a 25-30% CTR (I had 30,000+ URL clicks back when I had only 200 articles submitted).

Plus you'd definitely want a higher average number of article views. Some articles will get thousands of views and some will bomb and only get about 50, but you'd definitely have a higher average if you'd submitted over 3000 articles. If you were promoting higher commission products as well it's likely you could have earned over $100,000.
Hi hamida,

Great inspiration Do you make your living through article writing alone?

To George,

You can start implementing that strategy today and find out the result in 2011 right?

If you're gonna start doing it, tell me, so I can join you and we can compare notes by 2011. That is if I don't bail out after a month.

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I know many people make some money out of it but I've never understood the appeal of article marketing when there are so many other much easier ways to make a buck or two online.

And 730 hours! I know you where joking George but some people probably *have* spent that amount of time and more. Give me a couple of hundred, strand me in a forest with a decent knife and I'll knock up some rustic furniture and objet d'art, whack it on a website and make a lot more than $43K.



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Hi hamida,

Great inspiration Do you make your living through article writing alone?
Thanks. I don't see article marketing as a business model on its own - I use article marketing as just one method to drive traffic to my niche blogs (niche blogging and site flipping are my main business models at the moment). However I do have a few sites that get 100% of their traffic from articles (because they're not ranked well in the SE's yet), and I could make a decent living from just those sites alone.

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