total newby looking for a niche

williamh5001 · 09-23-2009, 02:32 AM

Hello, I am a total beginner at IM, and am looking for 3 niches to try and apply what I have been reading. I tend to over analyze things, so I decided I should expect my first few attempts to totally fail, and not worry about trying to make everything perfect. Now I am looking for my first niche.

I bought Market Samurai, which seems to be a really good tool, and have been trying to use it to find a niche. My initial approach is to go through the Amazon best seller lists and look for something that is already selling, then try to find a niche version of it. It seems each category I find already has strong competitors. I am not really sure how to narrow my focus down to a real "niche".

For example, I liked the "balance ball chair" products on Amamzon, but the "seo competition" screen looked difficult. The #1 position did not look too strong, but 2-10 were strong. Would a "niche" be a phrase like "best balance ball chair"? I'm not sure how to narrow the focus to something I could dominate.

Or take for example, external hard drives. The only keyword that looked like I could do well was "portable external hard drive firewire", which has a SEOV of $120. As for Market Samurai, I don't really know what amount of SEOV I should be looking for.

I also thought "pet hair vacuum" might be good

Or maybe instead of looking at items on Amazon, I should be looking for a process? For example, "building core muscles" instead of "balance ball chairs". Or "how to backup pc", instead of "external hard drive".

I have seen some examples where people use a google tool to find niche versions of popular words. Is the idea that you find a good niche keyword, then find a product to put on the page? I was thinking I should find the product first, then come up with the keyword(s) to bring in the traffic.

Any suggestions on finding niches? I know everyone asks that question, but many of the answers seem to be directing newbies to self-improvement or money-making type products, which I do not know much about. My areas of knowledge are not really money-related, I know a lot about computers and programming.

Sorry to ramble, I read a lot, then my brain stops when I turn on Market Samurai to implement what I've been reading.

xDennis · 09-23-2009, 02:37 AM

If you are looking to build niche sites / blogs for amazon you may want to check this site out: Amazon.com Bestsellers: The most popular items on Amazon.com. Updated hourly. and use https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal to find your keywords.

If you are looking to market to affiliate programs.. I find the best way to isolate a niche is to look for something that fullfills a need and has emotion attached to it. That's probably why weight loss is one of the most popular niches.. it fullfills a need, and has emotion attatched to it.

Goto the clickbank market place, and look for items that can provide those two things.. if you find a decent product that you believe will convert well (most vendors lie about their conversions so you just have to test).

A lot of people who are new (i did it 4 ever myself) "Major in the Minors" and really.. finding a niche is one of the minors in my opinion.. yet so many people get stumped there

Good luck!

Jermaine Tabor · 09-23-2009, 02:38 AM

Congrats on finding this forum first of all.

Second, you can view this post see how to easily find lots of new niches to research.
How to find unthought of niches to research via EZA.

Sean Ski · 09-23-2009, 02:43 AM

Those are nice but try to build a base around more of a broader market... How much can you write about a pet hair vacuum? Don't be afraid to go for more competitive niches where there is much money to be made and plenty of traffic to go around...

- Forex
- weight loss
- dating

These are just some examples and of course you'd have to search out a lot of long tail keywords but there's plenty of profit to go around if you're willing to work for it.

T.I.M. · 09-23-2009, 02:52 AM

Hey William welcome to the forum!

The questions to ask are: 1) What do you know? 2) What do you like? 3) What are you interested in?

Question #3 will be most important because it seems you will start article marketing on the subject so make sure it's a subject you won't get bored with quickly.

Also be sure to check out the Google Wonder Wheel which is great for giving you new ideas/angles on a niche... Here's the post that got me into it right here on the forum Use the "Wonder Wheel" to identify new Niches - New Free Google Search Tool

*REMEMBER* Don't worry about getting it right, just get it started!

PS: STOP calling yourself a newbie, you're a ~Newbie Star~ my man... we all are after all

Ravi Kumar · 09-23-2009, 03:07 AM

I ( and am sure a lot of folks in this forum) can relate to what you are going through.

Having tried numerous things, I have learned that:
1. There are really genuine opportunities in the market.
2. Whatever opportunity you choose, it is ONLY YOU who can make it work. Don't fall for easy-to-do or get-rich-quick scams.
3. NEVER EVER GIVE UP. If you stay in the game long enough, you WILL succeed. Don't think that you 'will give it a shot for 90 days'. You might as well not get in if you are not ready for the long haul.
4. Don't keep 'studying'. Take a plunge and get in the game.

All the Best. Just pick one (ofcourse some research is required. But beware of analysis/paralysis) and stay long enough and you will succeed...

http://www.buildmyonlinebusiness.net

09-23-2009, 02:37 AM	#2
xDennis HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: OH , FL Posts: 382 Thanks: 61 Thanked 36 Times in 13 Posts	Re: total newby looking for a niche If you are looking to build niche sites / blogs for amazon you may want to check this site out: Amazon.com Bestsellers: The most popular items on Amazon.com. Updated hourly. and use https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal to find your keywords. If you are looking to market to affiliate programs.. I find the best way to isolate a niche is to look for something that fullfills a need and has emotion attached to it. That's probably why weight loss is one of the most popular niches.. it fullfills a need, and has emotion attatched to it. Goto the clickbank market place, and look for items that can provide those two things.. if you find a decent product that you believe will convert well (most vendors lie about their conversions so you just have to test). A lot of people who are new (i did it 4 ever myself) "Major in the Minors" and really.. finding a niche is one of the minors in my opinion.. yet so many people get stumped there Good luck!

09-23-2009, 02:43 AM	#4
Sean Ski HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 333 Thanks: 4 Thanked 33 Times in 29 Posts	Re: total newby looking for a niche Those are nice but try to build a base around more of a broader market... How much can you write about a pet hair vacuum? Don't be afraid to go for more competitive niches where there is much money to be made and plenty of traffic to go around... - Forex - weight loss - dating These are just some examples and of course you'd have to search out a lot of long tail keywords but there's plenty of profit to go around if you're willing to work for it.

09-23-2009, 02:52 AM	#5
T.I.M. HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Chicago (Burbs) Posts: 135 Thanks: 29 Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts	Re: total newby looking for a niche Hey William welcome to the forum! The questions to ask are: 1) What do you know? 2) What do you like? 3) What are you interested in? Question #3 will be most important because it seems you will start article marketing on the subject so make sure it's a subject you won't get bored with quickly. Also be sure to check out the Google Wonder Wheel which is great for giving you new ideas/angles on a niche... Here's the post that got me into it right here on the forum Use the "Wonder Wheel" to identify new Niches - New Free Google Search Tool REMEMBER Don't worry about getting it right, just get it started! PS: STOP calling yourself a newbie, you're a ~Newbie Star~ my man... we all are after all

09-23-2009, 03:07 AM	#6
Ravi Kumar Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 17 Thanks: 10 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: total newby looking for a niche I ( and am sure a lot of folks in this forum) can relate to what you are going through. Having tried numerous things, I have learned that: 1. There are really genuine opportunities in the market. 2. Whatever opportunity you choose, it is ONLY YOU who can make it work. Don't fall for easy-to-do or get-rich-quick scams. 3. NEVER EVER GIVE UP. If you stay in the game long enough, you WILL succeed. Don't think that you 'will give it a shot for 90 days'. You might as well not get in if you are not ready for the long haul. 4. Don't keep 'studying'. Take a plunge and get in the game. All the Best. Just pick one (ofcourse some research is required. But beware of analysis/paralysis) and stay long enough and you will succeed... http://www.buildmyonlinebusiness.net

09-23-2009, 02:32 AM	#1
williamh5001 Warrior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	total newby looking for a niche Hello, I am a total beginner at IM, and am looking for 3 niches to try and apply what I have been reading. I tend to over analyze things, so I decided I should expect my first few attempts to totally fail, and not worry about trying to make everything perfect. Now I am looking for my first niche. I bought Market Samurai, which seems to be a really good tool, and have been trying to use it to find a niche. My initial approach is to go through the Amazon best seller lists and look for something that is already selling, then try to find a niche version of it. It seems each category I find already has strong competitors. I am not really sure how to narrow my focus down to a real "niche". For example, I liked the "balance ball chair" products on Amamzon, but the "seo competition" screen looked difficult. The #1 position did not look too strong, but 2-10 were strong. Would a "niche" be a phrase like "best balance ball chair"? I'm not sure how to narrow the focus to something I could dominate. Or take for example, external hard drives. The only keyword that looked like I could do well was "portable external hard drive firewire", which has a SEOV of $120. As for Market Samurai, I don't really know what amount of SEOV I should be looking for. I also thought "pet hair vacuum" might be good Or maybe instead of looking at items on Amazon, I should be looking for a process? For example, "building core muscles" instead of "balance ball chairs". Or "how to backup pc", instead of "external hard drive". I have seen some examples where people use a google tool to find niche versions of popular words. Is the idea that you find a good niche keyword, then find a product to put on the page? I was thinking I should find the product first, then come up with the keyword(s) to bring in the traffic. Any suggestions on finding niches? I know everyone asks that question, but many of the answers seem to be directing newbies to self-improvement or money-making type products, which I do not know much about. My areas of knowledge are not really money-related, I know a lot about computers and programming. Sorry to ramble, I read a lot, then my brain stops when I turn on Market Samurai to implement what I've been reading.

09-23-2009, 02:38 AM	#3
Jermaine Tabor Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Georgia , USA. Posts: 1,066 Thanks: 68 Thanked 47 Times in 31 Posts	Re: total newby looking for a niche Congrats on finding this forum first of all. Second, you can view this post see how to easily find lots of new niches to research. How to find unthought of niches to research via EZA.