Have You Seen SideWiki on Google Toolbar?

15 years ago

Yep, just seen this tonight. It got my "free traffic" interest meter pegged to full. Just how much easier can it get to establish yourself as an authority?

Set up a niche blog, go to some high trafficked websites, make your little sidewiki post that links to your blogger blog, bang, instant affiliate cash.

Hell, I'd like to try this with the Rich Jerk attitude.

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yukinari84 15 years ago

Tim is on the right track ;P

I have been waiting for Google to release this for a long time,
and now that they have, they have just added another revenue
for me for free traffic and money.
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Aaron Moser

15 years ago

That should be a WSO... "SideWiki Traffic Secrets Exposed"

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Brian Cook 15 years ago

I bet it will be... soon!

Brian

Originally Posted by Aaron Moser

That should be a WSO... "SideWiki Traffic Secrets Exposed"
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dectomax

15 years ago

He He,

I've just been adding SideWiki's to the web sites with the top SERPS for my keywords stating something like "This site is O.K. but lacks info., for more information about <keyword> why not check out <www.mysite.com>".

I've also added SideWikis to the actual Google results for my keyword but not sure if they will show. They aren't at the moment.

I've then even made a few fake Google accounts and gone back to those SideWikis and clicked the 'YES this was useful' vote. Other people have already clicked the 'Yes' vote as well so people are looking!!

I just came on here to see if anybody had thought about doing the same. Looks like I was slightly late to this new party.

Hopefully a bit of free traffic from the top players in the SERPS.

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dectomax 15 years ago

Update:

You CAN SideWiki the Google reults. I have typed in my keyword into Google and then SideWiki'd the results. I put something like "If you are looking for <keyword> like me, you would be better off checking out this great site at <http://www.mysite.com>.

Give it a try. I'm gonna wait and see what results this produces.
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- dectomax 15 years ago
  
  Just a thought.... This could be another update for Micro Niche Finder or Market Samurai. High search volume keywords with low volume SideWikis so that you can make sure your entry is near the top of the SideWiki section.
  
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vagabondette

15 years ago

Originally Posted by dectomax

He He,

I've just been adding SideWiki's to the web sites with the top SERPS for my keywords stating something like "This site is O.K. but lacks info., for more information about <keyword> why not check out <www.mysite.com>".

Will you still be laughing when your competitors are writing that on your site?

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AmyBrown

15 years ago

Originally Posted by dectomax

He He,

I've just been adding SideWiki's to the web sites with the top SERPS for my keywords stating something like "This site is O.K. but lacks info., for more information about <keyword> why not check out <www.mysite.com>".

This is a snippet from the content policy for Sidewiki:

Keep Sidewiki spam and malware free. Spam includes, but is not limited to, unwanted promotional or commercial content, or posts with gibberish such as keyword spamming.

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Ricky Parker

15 years ago

and it begins!

I was waiting for someone to mention it here.

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testaccount9998

15 years ago

I don't know anything about the technology Google is using to power this thing, but I have to wonder, will these backlinks be worth anything PR wise?

If so, that party probably won't last very long.

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Brian Cook 15 years ago

SidiWiki seems to be causing quite a stir in some circles,
with some of the comments centered around the site
owner's inability to prevent negative comments from
competitors.

I also found it interesting that though it does work
with Firefox, it doesn't yet work with Google Chrome.

Danny Sullivan had this to say...
Google Sidewiki Allows Anyone To Comment About Any Site

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- Marty S 15 years ago
  
  I believe I will use this on some of those irritating spam blogs that steal my articles. I can SAY they ripped it from me, and provide a link to the original.
  
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Jason_V

15 years ago

Yeah,

I'm hoping some $500+ an hour lawyer who is hip to the web gets wise and wants to file a class action suit against Google on behalf of people who don't want "digital graffiti" on a domain which was paid for on hosting which was paid for.

As in another thread it has been posted, if I wanted user comments on my sites I would enable comments or have a forum. This is definitely overstepping bounds and I have a feeling once the complaints and above mentioned class action suit begins Google will quickly back peddle.

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Fernando Veloso

15 years ago

As in another thread it has been posted, if I wanted user comments on my sites I would enable comments or have a forum. This is definitely overstepping bounds and I have a feeling once the complaints and above mentioned class action suit begins Google will quickly back peddle.

Google is losing it AGAIN.

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TheRichJerksNet

15 years ago

OMG!! There are people that actually admit to using this thing as spam already ... Well that tells you who to not do business with ....

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Kay King

15 years ago

I've just been adding SideWiki's to the web sites with the top SERPS for my keywords stating something like "This site is O.K. but lacks info., for more information about <keyword> why not check out <www.mysite.com>".

And THAT is exactly the problem! Personally, I hope google suffers for this one - and hope big g has a solution for crap like that posted above.

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vagabondette 15 years ago

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

OMG!! There are people that actually admit to using this thing as spam already ... Well that tells you who to not do business with ....

James

At least he was dumb enough to out himself so you know who to avoid...
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- TheRichJerksNet 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by vagabondette
  
  At least he was dumb enough to out himself so you know who to avoid...
  
  This is very true .... The bad thing is he will teach his so called marketing skill to newbies that will blindly follow.
  
  Like many others I have been online over 23 years in total and it seems to be getting worse and worse with the horde of wannabee marketers that self proclaim themselves to be marketers...
  
  I just updated my notepad in my WF control panel to remnd me who to not do business with ...
  
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sbucciarel Banned 15 years ago

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

OMG!! There are people that actually admit to using this thing as spam already ... Well that tells you who to not do business with ....

James

Exactly. I notice quite a few of them with like 39 posts to the Warrior Forum. Kind of an indication that they probably don't even have a valuable site to protect. If they did, they would see this as less of an opportunity and more of an outright hijacking by Google ... hijacking traffic, hijacking comments and blog interactivity, and in the long run, they'll be hijacking your ads too with *** SideWicki Ads ***

This is just part of Google's plan of dominating the Internet Ad business and placing it's content and it's ads on millions of site without having to pay a dime for it.

I guarantee you that along with the little sidewicki spammers already planning their campaigns and the ones that plan on sidewicki spam ebooks to teach everyone how to spam sidewicki, that some programmers are already working on sidewicki bots to blast their sidewicki spam to thousands of sites in minutes.
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vagabondette

15 years ago

yeah, it's like the folks who talk about how easy it is to get huge traffic and money from craigslist...you only have to use proxy servers and fake accounts to get around all the systems they've got in place to stop the spammers. They don't seem to understand that those systems are in place because you're NOT SUPPOSED to market on CL.

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tylergreen

15 years ago

i actually feel sorry for google. Here comes a genuine company that is trying to roll out something that it feels will help its users, and here are comes spammers ruining it.

if you actually have a better site with better info, content and all, why not, this is probably a great way to level the playing field with the big players of the big niches.. but if you have some site that has nothing but crap, sidewiki probably wouldn't help. heck, i don't think any service, tool, strategy will help.

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Andy Hart

15 years ago

Unbelievable !

People are already using it the way in which we feared they would!

Why Google has put so much time / money / energy / resources into expanding the avenues in which spammers and low life operate is just beyond me?

Let me guess your answer to that question :
" spammers were not what google was thinking of when creating sidewiki"

WHAT!! the people at Google didn't see the oppurtunity for abuse and all round blackhat activitys, that far exceeds the positive points to sidewiki?

Originally Posted by tylergreen

i actually feel sorry for google. Here comes a genuine company that is trying to roll out something that it feels will help its users, and here are comes spammers ruining it.

if you actually have a better site with better info, content and all, why not, this is probably a great way to level the playing field with the big players of the big niches.. but if you have some site that has nothing but crap, sidewiki probably wouldn't help. heck, i don't think any service, tool, strategy will help.

Not another one, why are people so blind to think this will only effect people with bad sites?

Do you really think the people like the guy a few posts above care how good and informative your site is before he steals your traffic and smears your reputation, or just maybe do you think that because you have a great site that it makes you more of a target?

Oh and please don't think that because your site is great that the good posts will out weigh the spammers and low life, because do you really think honest everyday website visitors can out weigh spammers who auto create Gmail accounts and constantly bombard your sidewiki with uttter crap??

Think about it before taking the morale high ground

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tylergreen

15 years ago

Hold on a minute, correct me if i'm wrong, but are you accusing me of "taking the morale high ground" before thinking about what I said?

Did you even read my post? How does it even contradict to what you're saying?

My point was exactly the same as yours.... that good sites will be ruined by spammers because of useless comments on side wiki.

On whether ordinary users can differentiate between good and bad sites is a whole other topic.

Originally Posted by Andy Hart

Unbelievable !

People are already using it the way in which we feared they would!

Why Google has put so much time / money / energy / resources into expanding the avenues in which spammers and low life operate is just beyond me?

Let me guess your answer to that question :
" spammers were not what google was thinking of when creating sidewiki"

WHAT!! the people at Google didn't see the oppurtunity for abuse and all round BlueFart activitys, that far exceeds the positive points to sidewiki?

Not another one, why are people so blind to think this will only effect people with bad sites?

Do you really think the people like the guy a few posts above care how good and informative your site is before he steals your traffic and smears your reputation, or just maybe do you think that because you have a great site that it makes you more of a target?

Oh and please don't think that because your site is great that the good posts will out weigh the spammers and low life, because do you really think honest everyday website visitors can out weigh spammers who auto create Gmail accounts and constantly bombard your sidewiki with uttter crap??

Think about it before taking the morale high ground

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sbucciarel

Banned 15 years ago

There has been a discussion here already regarding this

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ow-time-2.html

I'll repeat my sentiments here

I bought 5 SSL Certs for some of my sites. That'll take care of the problem for now, but I have around 100 or so sites. I resent Google forcing me to spend money to protect my sites from this.

This is nothing short of outright theft by Google:

Google is stealing comments that would be placed on our blogs instead of sidewiki. A lot of people work hard to get people to interact with their blog and Google is stealing that now.

Google will undoubtedly place ads in sidewicki at some point and thus be stealing revenue that we might have gotten from our own ads.

Google is providing the means for competitors and spammers to trash your site, thus stealing traffic and revenue from site owners.

Everyone who is mad about being ripped off by Google should let them know ... send your feedback and comments.

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Diana Lane

15 years ago

So far the only people I've seen in favour of this are either self-confessed spammers or pushing a product urging others to use it. Says it all, really.

I've already told Google what I thought of their site-squatting, content manipulating SideWiki twice, once when giving my view on how the Google Toolbar could be improved and once when I uninstalled this unmitigated virtual lock picker.

Google Analytics is only on a percentage of my sites, but Google had better make the most of the data they are collecting from me in this way because within 24 hours it will be a thing of the past. I realise Google has a zillion ways of collecting said data, but if I am willingly going to share it with anyone then it is not going to be them.

It's tempting to use Google Webmaster Tools. Really. Just to put a very long 'Corporate Message' in the SideWikis outlining the site owner's stance on this thieving piece of cyber-crud, but no. Not until I've walked round the block a few thousand times and calmed down. As for being blackmailed into buying SSL certificates... not in any hurry.

I'm not anti-Google. Some of their offerings are very good. Some even very good. How the same people that produced them could come up with this heap of cyber sewage is beyond me.

Yes, in answer to the OP, I've seen SideWiki on Google Toolbar and it was remiscent of seeing a neighbour's front door scrawled with 'Greeks go home'. Whatever floats your boat. It most definitely doesn't float mine.

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TheRichJerksNet

15 years ago

something else that should be put straight...

a few misguided people have referred to this crap tool as "Social Media" ... Not only is this 100% incorrect but it could not be further from social media. Social media is as the name suggest, it is the ability for others to intereact and socialize with one another.

This tool in no way allows you to socialize at all, it just allows others to breach your rights and post on your site without you having any control over it.

James

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Kay King

15 years ago

if you actually have a better site with better info, content and all, why not, this is probably a great way to level the playing field with the big players of the big niches.. but if you have some site that has nothing but crap, sidewiki probably wouldn't help. heck, i don't think any service, tool, strategy will help.

The targets for people won't be the crappy sites ....it will be the good ones. Sidewicki isn't going to "help" anyone in my opinion and it's not social media in any way, shape or form. Lazy marketers won't worry about creating quality sites - they will focus on running down the sites of competition.

But, then, much of what has evolved in "social media" isn't social either. If site owners quietly stand for this invasion it will truly become an "internet for dummies" at google. Oh wait, maybe it already has.

kay

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vagabondette

15 years ago

The non social aspect of it is a good point. If they allowed commenting on comments then you could call it social media. Currently it's just uncontrolled verbal diarrhea.

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