Order Form Submit Vs Gross Sale in Clickbank Analytics

Vijay M · 09-25-2009, 09:52 AM

I have been trying to get my head around this issue. As per CB analytics, my Order Form Submit numbers Vs Gross Sale numbers are not matching.

Its more like for every 2 Order Form Submits, 1 sale is registered.

From my understanding, the numbers might not match only if the buyer's CC did not go through.

Since my numbers are not big enough, I was hoping some of the big hitters here, would care to share their numbers, or explain why it even occurs.

Thanks.

Lindsay Brynn · 09-25-2009, 10:02 AM

I've been wondering about this too. I just assumed it was situations where credit cards failed. I guess you would get a submit count if the person didn't enter any information at all and pressed submit too.

Chris Stigson · 09-25-2009, 10:05 AM

Yeah, that might be the reason, but the wierd thing is when you don't get a sales later on, so to speak. Like they don't come back and order after the CC declined. That pisses me off a little =) If you are there to order and "actually order", change CC when it doesn't work, god dang it...

Ok, going kind of crazy here, but it could be people trying to get it for free and just click submit anyway, or accidentally put in some field wrong or whatever.. I know I do it a lot too, especially being out of the US border, I always mess up like "state" or zip code, etc.

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Ofthemix · 09-30-2009, 12:19 AM

I've actually been wondering about this too. I honestly wish ClickBank would take this out of their analytics . . . as seeing it for the first time really got my hopes up. T_T Then after I read up on it a little, my next thought was "Oh no, is something wrong with the order page?". Too much confusion.

Judge Groovyman · 10-22-2009, 10:18 PM

My first CB Order Form Submit Count ended up a no sale. I found this page from another forum where people are getting more than 50% of the order form submits do NOT RESULT IN A SALE.

The big question: Does this happen as much on OTHER affiliate networks? Is CB Ripping us off?

Anyone have any data from other affiliate networks we can use for clues?

Jacer · 10-22-2009, 10:20 PM

You also have to account for fraudulent submits. I do not know if this would be visible at this level, but each of my offers have a consistent gap between submits and orders.

Judge Groovyman · 10-23-2009, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacer

You also have to account for fraudulent submits. I do not know if this would be visible at this level, but each of my offers have a consistent gap between submits and orders.

Actually thats good to hear (from my perspective

) Thanks for the input.

09-25-2009, 09:52 AM	#1
Vijay M HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Washington DC Posts: 432 Thanks: 15 Thanked 14 Times in 10 Posts	Order Form Submit Vs Gross Sale in Clickbank Analytics I have been trying to get my head around this issue. As per CB analytics, my Order Form Submit numbers Vs Gross Sale numbers are not matching. Its more like for every 2 Order Form Submits, 1 sale is registered. From my understanding, the numbers might not match only if the buyer's CC did not go through. Since my numbers are not big enough, I was hoping some of the big hitters here, would care to share their numbers, or explain why it even occurs. Thanks.
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09-25-2009, 10:02 AM	#2
Lindsay Brynn formerly "linm" War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Posts: 433 Thanks: 30 Thanked 50 Times in 42 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Order Form Submit Vs Gross Sale in Clickbank Analytics I've been wondering about this too. I just assumed it was situations where credit cards failed. I guess you would get a submit count if the person didn't enter any information at all and pressed submit too.
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09-25-2009, 10:05 AM	#3
Chris Stigson LazyMillionDollars.com War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Uppsala , Sweden. Posts: 1,080 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 1 Thanked 21 Times in 12 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Order Form Submit Vs Gross Sale in Clickbank Analytics Yeah, that might be the reason, but the wierd thing is when you don't get a sales later on, so to speak. Like they don't come back and order after the CC declined. That pisses me off a little =) If you are there to order and "actually order", change CC when it doesn't work, god dang it... Ok, going kind of crazy here, but it could be people trying to get it for free and just click submit anyway, or accidentally put in some field wrong or whatever.. I know I do it a lot too, especially being out of the US border, I always mess up like "state" or zip code, etc. - Chris
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09-30-2009, 12:19 AM	#4
Ofthemix HyperActive Warrior Join Date: May 2009 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 144 Thanks: 79 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Order Form Submit Vs Gross Sale in Clickbank Analytics I've actually been wondering about this too. I honestly wish ClickBank would take this out of their analytics . . . as seeing it for the first time really got my hopes up. T_T Then after I read up on it a little, my next thought was "Oh no, is something wrong with the order page?". Too much confusion.
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10-22-2009, 10:18 PM	#5
Judge Groovyman Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 14 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: Order Form Submit Vs Gross Sale in Clickbank Analytics My first CB Order Form Submit Count ended up a no sale. I found this page from another forum where people are getting more than 50% of the order form submits do NOT RESULT IN A SALE. The big question: Does this happen as much on OTHER affiliate networks? Is CB Ripping us off? Anyone have any data from other affiliate networks we can use for clues?

10-22-2009, 10:20 PM	#6
Jacer Brandon Hartman Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Midwest USA Posts: 35 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Social Networking	Re: Order Form Submit Vs Gross Sale in Clickbank Analytics You also have to account for fraudulent submits. I do not know if this would be visible at this level, but each of my offers have a consistent gap between submits and orders.
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