Do you think its your job to police the forum?

16 years ago

We definitely have a duty to keep our community from being abused - but I think there's a difference between being self serving and doing things in the communities interest.

Sometimes people use the 'community responsibility' to ride their own horse.

Here's an example of an issue which came up for me recently....

I do a lot of JVs and there's a fellow warrior who I regularly work with (almost constantly have something going).

When we start a new project we often already have a suitable domain (because we both have a LOT of them) which we could use - so whoever has it just becomes the person who manages getting the site set up.

We completely trust each other, so there's nothing complicated about it and we don't even discuss it, it's just part of the way we work.

So, even if I create absolutely everything for a new site - it could be on a domain which my business partner owns.

So, does this mean I can't mention my own site in my sig? because if you look up the details, technically I don't own it.

I don't think the spirit of the rules would be to stop me having my site in my sig (not that I use my sig right now anyway), but an overzealous self moderator could easily read more into it and start thinking up conspiracy theories as to why I'm promoting "someone elses site".

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I think these things can get out of hand and if people have nothing better to do can become a problem that never existed.

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Todd Lamb

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

We definitely have a duty to keep our community from being abused - but I think there's a difference between being self serving and doing things in the communities interest.

Sometimes people use the 'community responsibility' to ride their own horse.

Here's an example of an issue which came up for me recently....

I do a lot of JVs and there's a fellow warrior who I regularly work with (almost constantly have something going).

When we start a new project we often already have a suitable domain (because we both have a LOT of them) which we could use - so whoever has it just becomes the person who manages getting the site set up.

We completely trust each other, so there's nothing complicated about it and we don't even discuss it, it's just part of the way we work.

So, even if I create absolutely everything for a new site - it could be on a domain which my business partner owns.

So, does this mean I can't mention my own site in my sig? because if you look up the details, technically I don't own it.

I don't think the spirit of the rules would be to stop me having my site in my sig (not that I use my sig right now anyway), but an overzealous self moderator could easily read more into it and start thinking up conspiracy theories as to why I'm promoting "someone elses site".

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I think these things can get out of hand and if people have nothing better to do can become a problem that never existed.

Exactly Right....but what is more interesting in your statement is the trust you speak of btwn you and your partner.
Achieving trust here or with your members etc is the foundation for success (in my view).
We have to Trust others won't abuse the forum. Sometimes it isn't always easy getting there.

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KarlWarren 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

overzealous self moderator

ROFL... history turns full circle.

EDIT - that's not a pop at ex-mods... more a pop at those who used to cry "overzealous moderator"
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- Steven Wagenheim 16 years ago
  
  For me the answer is simple.
  
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  Frank Ayres 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim
  
  For me the answer is simple.
  
  It's in this thread.
  
  http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...oderators.html
  
  That isn't an answer.
  The question wansnt do members moderate this forum, the question was should they, so pointing us to that link is a waste of time
  
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Elmer Hurlstone

16 years ago

Edmund Burke said it best,
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

While some may see that as over dramatization the fact remains this has become a "user moderated" forum.

It is also, for many of us, more than just a place to hawk our goods. It is a community. And, like all communities it's inhabited by all sorts of people. Some are as pure of heart as the driven snow. Others would as soon stick their hands in your pocket as read a post. And still others are just downright disagreeable.

If we wish it to remain the kind of community we can be proud to "virtually" live in it is incumbent on all of us to do our part to keep it so.

A while back I participated in a newly formed photography forum. At first the admin attempted to run it by himself while also spending significant time marketing it. Before long it was completely out of hand--ridden with porn and spam. Membership dropped precipitously. I haven't been there in months. Nor, I suspect has anyone else.

Bottom line: If you want to walk on clean streets you have to pick up litter!

Elmer

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Kevin Riley 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Elmer Hurlstone

Edmund Burke said it best,
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

Elmer, this is so true. Whether in a forum or a country. One only needs to look at history.
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Kyle Tully

16 years ago

I always report posts I spot that are breaking the rules. It takes only a few seconds and in the long run makes this a MUCH easier place to navigate, which benefits everyone.

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Martin Luxton

16 years ago

Whenever I see a post like this

Username: Youngsexgod
No of Posts: 2

Subject: Hey Warriors Check Out This Great New Site

I always click on it ready to report it. It's like a cancer - the quicker you eliminate it the better. There was a troll yesterday whose posts were taking up 7 out of the top 10 threads for a while. This is annoying and it can also help to kill a thread.

So, even if you don't think you have to protect other Warriors look at it as "enlightened self-interest".

Martin

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Josh Anderson 16 years ago

I think the community moderation works great... but when people obsess about it and elevate themselves as some sort of local sheriff it gets annoying.

The rules here work. The reporting methods work.

Now that members are mods they should just follow the rules, report what violates them, and move on... there is no need to obsess about things.
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JazzOscar

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Martin Luxton

Whenever I see a post like this

Username: Youngsexgod
No of Posts: 2

Subject: Hey Warriors Check Out This Great New Site

I always click on it ready to report it. It's like a cancer - the quicker you eliminate it the better. There was a troll yesterday whose posts were taking up 7 out of the top 10 threads for a while. This is annoying and it can also help to kill a thread.

So, even if you don't think you have to protect other Warriors look at it as "enlightened self-interest".

Martin

I agree.

I do the same thing when it's as obvious and blatant as that. Especially if you check those 2 or 3 posts and find that all of them contains almost the same message.

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SandyDuPlessis 16 years ago

Whilst I do believe that it is important that we all help to keep the forum clean and tidy and report misbehavior and rule-breaking, it is even more important that we be very careful not to use our "power" to hurt someone just because we don't like them.

In addition, I have come to realize that there are a number of people who tend to get a little muddled with all the rules, particularly newbies and also includes those who may not have the best command of the English language.

In cases such as the above, I believe it is our duty to in fact "police" ourselves. It is not necessary to be rude to others because they have behaved or done something incorrectly out of a lack of expert knowledge. Rather, add a gentle note of warning to their post and perhaps send a PM as well.

Obviously if their behavior/actions persist despite several such "verbal" warnings, then yes, go ahead and report them.

As I was always taught - point a finger at one person and three fingers point back at you.

If any of us become too rigid in our outlook, it could be we who land up being broken.

Sandy
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- VegasVince 16 years ago
  
  Here's the non-sugar coated answer.....from me:
  
  NO.
  
  NO....It is NOT my duty to police this forum...or the world for that matter.
  
  It's not my responsibility either.
  
  And part of the promblem in life...is others way too concerned about what the other guy or girl is doing...in the guise...of not worryin' enough about themselves. Capiche.
  
  The only thing I owe the Warrior forum is my honesty...and my best effort in what ever it is I choose to post on any given day.
  
  I don't have time to police the rest of the world...cuz to be honest....if that's the case....I could spend a lifetime worryin' and writin' about some other dudes bogus signature et al.
  
  To me.....I'd rather use my intelligence and just skip over posts like those....and get to the point of why we all should be here...to learn something that makes us money.
  
  Truth is......the market takes care of itself.
  
  The Warrior Forum.....will take care of itself. With or without hall monitors...who truly would rather blow a whistle then sell shit.
  
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  Monetize 16 years ago
  
  Some ppl are taking this mod thing a bit too far.
  I will report blatant violations but I don't click on
  everyone's links to see if they are in compliance
  or go out of my way to read what everyone says
  just in case they are breaking the rules. So the
  answer would be "NO" it's not my job to police
  the warrior forum.
  
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16 years ago

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KimW

16 years ago

Exactly! Click on an offending post,report it if need be,then move on.

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Frank Ayres

16 years ago

I personally think we shouldn't have to moderate the forum, with the money Admin is making from WSOs surely he can afford to pay some full time moderators?.
I have seen it go to peoples heads on here and they think they are a super mod or something.

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