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Im sitting up late tonight looking for a product to promote. Im finally chose a niche.

So, my question is that I see a few of these products have an affiliate page, is this a somewhat good indication that this seller is legit.

I guess what I want to do is stay away from scam sellers. I am looking for little hints that might reveal this info to me. I do understand that nothing is foolproof so I might still run into a scammer, but I want to keep it a minimum.

So any information that you might use to help you with this, would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you
#clickbank #finding scammer seller #searching
  • Profile picture of the author geolt7
    Most of the sellers in Clickbank should be legit. If you are really concerned, look for those with higher gravity. It is a good indication that many affiliates have made money with them.
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    • Profile picture of the author mikeyman120
      Originally Posted by geolt7 View Post

      Most of the sellers in Clickbank should be legit.
      I believe this is true also.

      Clickbank has to approve each product by having a person review your site and download page. Only after you have approval can you then change your account details and pull something shady. I think scammers in clickbank are few if any. I have yet to see a clickbank product that I would call a scam. Some might call the make money online programs a scam but most are basically courses on how to make money online selling clickbank products through pay per click or article marketing.

      Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author NowIstheTime
      Originally Posted by geolt7 View Post

      Most of the sellers in Clickbank should be legit. If you are really concerned, look for those with higher gravity. It is a good indication that many affiliates have made money with them.
      This is a good point. Just understand that while higher gravity means more affiliates are with this product, which though an 'indication' of a larger market.. also means exactly that... MORE COMPETITION.

      * too high means too much competition - are you ready to fight hundreds of affiliates to reach the top page in google) or to try and beat 'more affiliates' in PPC bidding?
      * too low - means no one is interested.

      I've seen many recommendations on how exactly to use this figure, but my guideline is a gravity between 50 and 100. I'd be interested to hear what other fellow warriors feel on the best use of the CB gravity value.
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  • Profile picture of the author Easy Cash
    check out their sales page.

    Does it look professional?

    Does it look as though it is honest?

    Would you buy the product?
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  • Profile picture of the author AffiliateTraining
    If you check the affiliate links that Clickbank provides, click through to the sales page, and then through to the order page, you'll be able to check the ordering process. Your own affiliate ID should appear at the foot of the CB order page.

    If all of that works, then you should be fine. You won't have any problems with CB paying you, not in my experience at least.

    ~ Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author hubreality
    Originally Posted by gvannorman View Post

    Im sitting up late tonight looking for a product to promote. Im finally chose a niche.

    So, my question is that I see a few of these products have an affiliate page, is this a somewhat good indication that this seller is legit.

    I guess what I want to do is stay away from scam sellers. I am looking for little hints that might reveal this info to me. I do understand that nothing is foolproof so I might still run into a scammer, but I want to keep it a minimum.

    So any information that you might use to help you with this, would be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you
    I found and used this helpful free tool[cbgraph.com] to lookout for a better converting product to promote with detailed info.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    • Profile picture of the author scrofford
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      The big, important way to protect yourself against the chances of finding a real scammer is simply to avoid all products with "leaky" sales pages. It's honestly as simple as that. Anything with a vendor's opt-in on the sales page, just move on to the next product.
      The problem with this is that there are more and more vendors placing opt-in pages in their sales page. It's not so easy anymore to just "go on to the next product."

      I have been a firm believer of not going with a product with an opt-in also, but it seems to be getting harder and harder to find those vendors who understand this.
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  • Profile picture of the author gvannorman
    So Alexa, if the sales page has a "opt in" email submission then I should move on to the next product. Which means the sales page should have a purchase now button or something similiar thank you and all of you that responded...i love this place
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  • Profile picture of the author AffiliateTraining
    No, I wouldn't say that, not at all. If the seller has an opt-in and they're using their autoresponder, or whatever, to persuade the prospect into purchasing, then it's even better for you, as an affiliate. That's not a "leaky" sales page as Alex was describing, quite the opposite - I'd rather see them do that than not.

    You really don't have much to worry about when using CB. I'm always more concerned about affiliate commissions when I'm dealing with a company who use an in-house solution... those are much easier to manipulate, whereas CB isn't.

    ~ Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author AffiliateTraining
    Steve, that's wrong. If the opt-in is designed to get people interested in the initial product it's GREAT, if the opt-in cross-sells products that affiliates also earn the commissions on, that's GREAT too. That's exactly what you want an affiliate merchant to be doing for you.

    ~ Paul
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    • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
      Originally Posted by AffiliateTraining View Post

      Steve, that's wrong. If the opt-in is designed to get people interested in the initial product it's GREAT, if the opt-in cross-sells products that affiliates also earn the commissions on, that's GREAT too. That's exactly what you want an affiliate merchant to be doing for you.

      ~ Paul

      The problem is several of these people with optins syphon off the sales to paypal via the follow up emails and get 100% of the sales.
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      • Profile picture of the author scrofford
        Originally Posted by M Thompson View Post

        The problem is several of these people with optins syphon off the sales to paypal via the follow up emails and get 100% of the sales.
        Exactly...

        And you never know who is and who isn't. But again I will say....It is getting harder to find vendors who don't have opt-in pages in their sales pages...except with low gravity of course =)
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  • Profile picture of the author AffiliateTraining
    If it gets to the point where you're having to diagnose everything to such an extreme when you promote CB products, then why do it? Your time would be better spent on marketing rather than worrying if you're being robbed.

    Make life easy on yourself and go with one of the larger networks, or with an in-house program (one that you've checked out, as per my previous post), which there are millions of and where you're often paid on the lifetime of the customer and across multiple products/services too.

    Then you're HAPPY when they've got an opt-in, because if they're doing their job right it means more sales for you.

    ~ Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author AffiliateTraining
    I wasn't disagreeing with you Alexa, just saying that if anyone is so concerned about the merchants on CB then don't sweat it - go elsewhere and you'll find a million and one other merchants who go out of their way to make their sales process "non-leaky".

    Personally I think that if you need to check the affiliate network you choose to work with for signs that you might be getting scammed, then it's probably the wrong choice from the outset.
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  • Profile picture of the author Teekay
    Though one cannot rule out scammers but I think there are very few of them in Clickbank. However, if you are afraid of promoting a merchant's product(s), move ahead and search for another merchant with other products.
    The gravity level will show you whether other affiliates are making money from the products and invariably, it can be one of the means to determine the reliability of the merchant in question.
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  • Profile picture of the author DASHBOY
    Hi you could also do a google search if theres plenty of people promoting the product in google adwords then they are getting paid from the merchant via clickbank.

    Good Luck

    Graeme
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  • Profile picture of the author mejohn
    I've never had any problems with Clickbank. I find searching by gravity works best. Linkshare is also good.
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