Please Add Salt When Taking Advice...

Kim Standerline · 09-28-2009, 05:18 PM

Even on the Warrior forum the advice you get from some of the posters can be incredibly whiffy!!

There are some eejits who could get you if not thrown somewhere dark and nasty into some serious trouble.

I've just been reading some of the responses to this with some disbelief.

www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussion-forum/128271-what-should-i-do-these-80000-email-addresses.html

If you're asking for advice, please make sure you do your due diligence, it pays off in the end, better still make sure it's from those whom you are convinced know what they are talking about...

Edit
I'm not even going to say what I think about someone who is numpty enough to buy an email list except to say I'm selling the London Eye at a rock bottom price if you're interested

Kim

Andyhenry · 09-28-2009, 05:24 PM

Thanks for that Kymi,

I was thinking something similar about 5 minutes ago while reading a different thread.

There are a lot of people here who will say things they've heard like they're facts, and come up with really poor ideas for what other people should do in their business.

While this forum is a great place to bounce ideas - it's NOT somewhere to get legal advice or to blindly take advice you don't understand the implications of.

Andy

Steven Wagenheim · 09-28-2009, 05:27 PM

Kim, I'm with you 100% on this.

Some of the advice I have seen, especially on what to do with leads, is
downright frightening.

SpankD · 09-28-2009, 05:31 PM

Lists are bought and sold daily. CNN, ESPN, NYT etc etc all buy and sell lists. If it didn't work then they wouldn't do it. Is it smart for a novice to do it? No not really unless they are well informed.
It says more to the lack of knowledge from the people who are spouting up against it blindly with no more argument then "It's bad m'kay".

Troy_Phillips · 09-28-2009, 05:41 PM

Practices like buying emails hurt those of us that try to build legitimate email list . Anyone that has took the time to set up a capture page with something of value being given, continued to give quality during the series , Even refused to sell because it was too soon, Takes this kind of thing personal.

I know all who gave advice as how to monetize this bought list could have thought they were doing the guy a favor . In the eyes of most serious "long haul" marketers , they lost a lot of credibility .

This is not advice , it is an opinion. It can be taken with a grain of salt . This is not Vegas . What happens on the internet takes a long time to go away ... if ever .

Kim Standerline · 09-28-2009, 05:44 PM

Hi Spank

I'm aware lists are bought and sold daily, (I get enough spam phone calls and letters to know that my details belong to a host of people and busineses etc).

I'm not talking about big corporations etc who buy and sell, they know what they are doing. I'm talking about someone who would buy a massive email list then ask other folk what to do with it,

The potential for someone to get themselves into a heap of trouble in this scenerio is huge especially when they are getting a heap of bad advice from others who have no idea what they are talking about. You sound as though you do so I'd imagine you are the exception that proves the rule.

Kim

BTW I love your sig lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpankD

Lists are bought and sold daily. CNN, ESPN, NYT etc etc all buy and sell lists. If it didn't work then they wouldn't do it. Is it smart for a novice to do it? No not really unless they are well informed.
It says more to the lack of knowledge from the people who are spouting up against it blindly with no more argument then "It's bad m'kay".

Steven Fullman · 09-28-2009, 05:58 PM

Kim,

You know what? That's cool.

You managed to get eejits, whiffy AND numpty into ONE post...without a single question.

Are you training these guys?

Are you the IM-Whisperer, Kim?

Steve

SpankD · 09-28-2009, 06:10 PM

Kim,
Point well taken and I agree 100%.

JohnMcCabe · 09-28-2009, 06:19 PM

Another thing to watch out for...

Some of your fellow Warriors have an odd sense of humor, and sometimes "advice" that is meant to sound humorous or ironic comes off sounding like a genuine suggestion.

Such was one post in the thread referenced, which suggested becoming an agent for an ED pill and spamming the list with that. At least I hope it was meant as humor...

Chris W. Sutton · 09-28-2009, 06:25 PM

I'm with you, Kim! Whiffy, numpty eejits just get my blood to boiling! BTW, I will be sending you a PM about purchasing the London Eye. I have always wanted to own my own chiropractor business. It would save me a ton on glasses!

George Wright · 09-28-2009, 06:25 PM

Kim,

"eejits" I haven't heard that term in years. My mom used to say that once in a while. I never did know what it meant until I said it outloud once.

George Wright

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kim Standerline

Even on the Warrior forum the advice you get from some of the posters can be incredibly whiffy!!

There are some eejits who could get you if not thrown somewhere dark and nasty into some serious trouble.

I've just been reading some of the responses to this with some disbelief.

www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussion-forum/128271-what-should-i-do-these-80000-email-addresses.html

If you're asking for advice, please make sure you do your due diligence, it pays off in the end, better still make sure it's from those whom you are convinced know what they are talking about...

Edit
I'm not even going to say what I think about someone who is numpty enough to buy an email list except to say I'm selling the London Eye at a rock bottom price if you're interested

Kim

Steven Fullman · 09-28-2009, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris W. Sutton

I'm with you, Kim! Whiffy, numpty eejits just get my blood to boiling! BTW, I will be sending you a PM about purchasing the London Eye. I have always wanted to own my own chiropractor business. It would save me a ton on glasses!

Purchase the London Eye?

What a cheek...

You can take it. Sold as seen.

[small print]Buyer assumes postage costs[/small print]

Kim Standerline · 09-28-2009, 07:27 PM

I aim to please Steve, I aim to please

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Fullman

Kim,

You know what? That's cool.

You managed to get eejits, whiffy AND numpty into ONE post...without a single question.

Are you training these guys?

Are you the IM-Whisperer, Kim?

Steve

TMG Enterprises · 09-28-2009, 08:27 PM

I have to say it's good to have you around more again, Kim. And good job on all the UK-phisms as Steve said. Whiffy was new to me but easily understood by context. I think you're where I learned what numpty meant, a while back on the forum.

You guys over there have some wonderful words.

Tina

kimvalerio05 · 09-28-2009, 08:34 PM

Yah!!! I also observe that some of the advice here is not accurate to the subject or matter. But like Andy’s it’s NOT somewhere to get legal advice. But other than that you can still get a lot of information and ideas here in WF.

Bev Clement · 09-28-2009, 09:34 PM

Kim, you're selling the eye to Chris, does he know what he has bought?

I agree there are too many dipsticks around

SolomonHuey · 09-28-2009, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kim Standerline

If you're asking for advice, please make sure you do your due diligence, it pays off in the end, better still make sure it's from those whom you are convinced know what they are talking about...

Yup, great advice. I've been telling people this on my list for a long time...

Solomon Huey

Harvey.Segal · 09-28-2009, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

Some of your fellow Warriors have an odd sense of humor, and sometimes "advice" that is meant to sound humorous or ironic comes off sounding like a genuine suggestion.

We need these people named and banned.

Harvey

Kim Standerline · 09-29-2009, 02:55 AM

lol nuff said

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal

We need these people named and banned.

Harvey

Thanks Tina I appreciate that

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises

I have to say it's good to have you around more again, Kim. And good job on all the UK-phisms as Steve said. Whiffy was new to me but easily understood by context. I think you're where I learned what numpty meant, a while back on the forum.

You guys over there have some wonderful words.

Tina

Martin Luxton · 09-29-2009, 03:28 AM

Don't listen to Kim!

Following sensible advice usually means you have to get off your backside and do some work.

(

Better put in a few smilies so Harvey doesn't get me named and banned).

Martin

Harvey.Segal · 09-29-2009, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viva_vix

I tell you what, it's incredible that you find a lot of gullible folks around who can take everything in.

You may be surprised but the word 'gullible' is not in the dictionary.

Harvey

Kim Standerline · 09-29-2009, 11:45 AM

Harvey you just crack me up lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harvey.Segal

You may be surprised but the word 'gullible' is not in the dictionary.

Harvey

Bjarne Eldhuset · 09-29-2009, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kim Standerline

...I'm not even going to say what I think about someone who is numpty enough to buy an email list except to say I'm selling the London Eye at a rock bottom price if you're interested...

Kim

But, how will the monkey entertain itself if you sell the ferris wheel?

phil.wheatley · 09-29-2009, 12:10 PM

haha, I got advice once from a fellow warrior which resulted in one of my Wordpress blogs blowing up. That was a long time ago and have learned the lesson since.

People do mean well of course, but you're right, be sure to check it out before taking drastic action. Some also may throw you off the scent when it comes to finding decent niches.

Phil

angdeer · 09-29-2009, 12:19 PM

If you are asking for advise then take it but use your brain too.

09-28-2009, 05:18 PM	#1
Kim Standerline Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: United Kingdom. Posts: 3,951 Thanks: 300 Thanked 311 Times in 153 Posts Social Networking	Please Add Salt When Taking Advice... Even on the Warrior forum the advice you get from some of the posters can be incredibly whiffy!! There are some eejits who could get you if not thrown somewhere dark and nasty into some serious trouble. I've just been reading some of the responses to this with some disbelief. www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussion-forum/128271-what-should-i-do-these-80000-email-addresses.html If you're asking for advice, please make sure you do your due diligence, it pays off in the end, better still make sure it's from those whom you are convinced know what they are talking about... Edit I'm not even going to say what I think about someone who is numpty enough to buy an email list except to say I'm selling the London Eye at a rock bottom price if you're interested Kim
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SpankD An-ti-so-shul Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Contact Info	Re: Please Add Salt When Taking Advice... Lists are bought and sold daily. CNN, ESPN, NYT etc etc all buy and sell lists. If it didn't work then they wouldn't do it. Is it smart for a novice to do it? No not really unless they are well informed. It says more to the lack of knowledge from the people who are spouting up against it blindly with no more argument then "It's bad m'kay".
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Steven Fullman Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London, England Posts: 3,023 Thanks: 504 Thanked 268 Times in 178 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Please Add Salt When Taking Advice... Kim, You know what? That's cool. You managed to get eejits, whiffy AND numpty into ONE post...without a single question. Are you training these guys? Are you the IM-Whisperer, Kim? Steve
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SpankD An-ti-so-shul Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Contact Info	Re: Please Add Salt When Taking Advice... Kim, Point well taken and I agree 100%.
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JohnMcCabe Happy Hooker War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North of the Peace River, Southwest Florida, USA. Posts: 2,314 Thanks: 279 Thanked 464 Times in 302 Posts Social Networking	Re: Please Add Salt When Taking Advice... Another thing to watch out for... Some of your fellow Warriors have an odd sense of humor, and sometimes "advice" that is meant to sound humorous or ironic comes off sounding like a genuine suggestion. Such was one post in the thread referenced, which suggested becoming an agent for an ED pill and spamming the list with that. At least I hope it was meant as humor...
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Chris W. Sutton Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Eugene, Oregon, USA. Posts: 2,050 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 6 Thanked 256 Times in 50 Posts Contact Info	Re: Please Add Salt When Taking Advice... I'm with you, Kim! Whiffy, numpty eejits just get my blood to boiling! BTW, I will be sending you a PM about purchasing the London Eye. I have always wanted to own my own chiropractor business. It would save me a ton on glasses!
	Chris W. Sutton

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Bev Clement Writer War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,419 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 339 Thanked 832 Times in 285 Posts	Re: Please Add Salt When Taking Advice... Kim, you're selling the eye to Chris, does he know what he has bought? I agree there are too many dipsticks around
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