I must be stooopid(((

by bgreed
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I am someone who is trying to get started as an affiliate marketer as I see the potential for me to finally gain the financila freedom I have been looking for. I have read books by Chris Rempel, Kevin Riley and MR Brown all great reads by the way and highly informative.

Here is my problem each talks about market research and choosing niches to market to and everything they say makes sense. Everything else in the books makes perfect sense and I have no problem with putting all of that into place, but for some reason the market research and choosing niches is just totaly hanging me up. Obviously I want high traffic niches or niches that are following a hot trend. Maybe I just don't understand how to use transparent markets like EBay or Amazon to figure this out. So anybody got any ideas for a dinosauer like me so that I can move forward?

Thanks,
Gregg
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  • Profile picture of the author Roy Carter
    Greg - Don't try and reinvent the wheel. Look for products to promote that are already selling well in a given niche. As for niche selection, get some ideas about hot niches by checking out Clickbank, Amazon non-fiction best sellers, etc.

    Very basic advice but you really don't need to be overcomplicating things at this stage.

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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Well, I can eliminate one for you at least - and that would be the "how to make money online" niche.

      It is easier to start with a niche you are either passionate about or have had personal experience with. Can you narrow it down to 3? Finding products you like can be a snap after that.
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      • Profile picture of the author NewbiesDiary
        Ok try this...

        go to the Google Keyword Tool - here...

        https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal

        & type in "how" or "buy" or "get rid of" or "learn"

        something like that - something that suggests a person who wants to buy something or is desperate for a solution to a problem they have.

        Right so if you start with "how" - go type that in. Now click on the blue "Approx Avg Search Volume " make sure the highest number is at the top. Now these are the most searched for terms. This number is the number of searches for the particular keyword per MONTH on average.

        How is searched 151,000,000 times per month.

        Go down the list until you see something interesting like maybe "how to fish", "how to make out", "how to write". Once you see something that interests you , open a new browser & go back into the google keyword tool & put your new keyword like "how to fish", you can also put fish, fishing (put each keyword phrase on a new line).

        This will bring up heaps more searches for lots of different keywords.

        Keep going until you find something you can work with - then go check clickbank & see what you can find to promote.

        When you finally do choose a niche - you can use these searches to decide on your domain name too - again start with the highest searched keyword phrase & check if the domain is available.

        I hope this helps you out - there are heaps of different methods for selecting a niche, if you are following Conduit Method you should try to block everything else out of your mind & try to follow Chris's methods step by step.

        Good Luck
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      • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
        Originally Posted by avenuegirl View Post

        Well, I can eliminate one for you at least - and that would be the "how to make money online" niche.

        It is easier to start with a niche you are either passionate about or have had personal experience with. Can you narrow it down to 3? Finding products you like can be a snap after that.
        Why would you eliminate the hottest niche that is ever expanding, especially during this time of financial crisis... EVERYONE is looking to 'Make More Money' , 'Work From Home', & 'Make Money Online' more than ever!!!

        It all comes down to having a good quality product.

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        • Profile picture of the author NewbiesDiary
          Originally Posted by webdesignhq View Post

          Why would you eliminate the hottest niche that is ever expanding, especially during this time of financial crisis... EVERYONE is looking to 'Make More Money' , 'Work From Home', & 'Make Money Online' more than ever!!!

          It all comes down to having a good quality product.

          - Jared
          You eliminate this as a newbie 'cause there is sooooo much competition you really need your shit together to do this one.

          My first niche is a niche within a niche within a niche & still within a niche - it is so micro-targetted that my buyers are almost begging me to sell my product to them, there is very little competition. This means I don't have to be up on all the tips & techniques to make just one sale.

          This is why you stay away from the make money niche when you're a newbie.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Gregg,

    I think the problem is that you're getting hung up on the technicalities of this.

    Stop thinking keywords and start thinking accessible markets.

    You have a lot of options available as an affiliate marketer so don't think you have to rely on search engine traffic.

    For example - go to Youtube and see what's popular and getting views. Go to Twitter Search and see what's hot on Twitter, pay attention in your local area (listen to the radio, read the papers) and get a feel for what people that you can access are actually interested in.

    Finding products will be the easiest part of the puzzle.

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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Gregg, great to see you posting here.


      I think most people look at Amazon and Ebay to see what is already selling. What topics are hot. You can also look at your favorite bookstore magazine shelf for ideas. There are a lot of them and I think that is your problem. Don't worry, we all get overwhelmed at first. Well most of us. I still don't think Andy has ever been overwhelmed. hehe


      I like to take a problem like this and break it down into more pieces. IF there is a particular niche you are interested in or you feel will have potential than look for forums, magazines, check out Amazon and see what types of books are selling, Ebay and so on. That should give you an idea on what is selling.

      Once you understand what is selling you can then look for competitive products. I am talking about the successful ones. Analyze how they are selling, mainly what their sales funnel is.


      Implement based on your research.
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      • Profile picture of the author RichDavis
        Oh yeah man your totally stooopid, I am just joking LOL...

        let me first welcome you to the warrior forum, it's great to see you here at warriors!

        You came to the right place for advise and knowledge...

        Affiliate Marketing is defiantly a great way to get started out, (I recommend making a special account just to save funds aside on every sale you make save a little bit out of each sale and once you get a few hundred bucks put that towards creating your VERY own unique/original product) just a wise tip that I also did when I first started out and now I am very happy with making my own products one right after the other (i still do affiliate marketing to of course as it provides a nice stream of extra income) however It is still a good thing to have your very own product as well... I recommend the savings jar method because then you technically arent going out of pocket to create your first original product :-)

        Anyhoo...

        Let me see if I can shed some light and give a few helpful tips and suggestions...

        Well to find great niches that is a good question... there are many tools to do that with one really good tool is micro niche finder it is pretty good and I really have had a tremendous amount of luck with it... it has truly uncovered some gems for me... so you may want to check that out... I like MNF because it does everything I need all in one place like it is nice to not have to bounce around all over to get various statistics on keywords and such :-)

        you can also use googles external keyword tool as another warrior mentioned above in an earlier post... (i believe google's is still free)

        I also use eBay and Amazon as well as clickbank to find out trends and what's currently "HOT topic" as I like to call it...

        Anyways if your relying on clickbank to find hot affiliate products to sell then there is a great little site I like to use to do research at which is called cbengine.com you can visit it by going here: CB ENGINE go check that out it shows the hottest new products selling on clickbank and if you join the PAID option you can really dig some deep stats about the products on clickbank to determine if it is something worth promoting or making a competiting product about that niche/topic :-)

        Hope this helps.....
        Rich Davis
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  • Profile picture of the author Hugh
    Gospel according to Travis Sago:

    "First find a hungry crowd"

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  • Profile picture of the author John Piteo
    What I've learned is that choosing your first niche is more about mindset. Here is a copy of my latest blog post...

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    Pick a Niche, Any Niche

    Don't spend all of your time looking for the perfect niche, market or product to sell. Don't look for the best niche. Don't even spend too much time looking for a good niche. You could easily end up waiting for months trying to figure out what a good niche is.

    Those months could turn into years if you don't give up first. This was another big mistake I made when I started to learn Internet marketing. I wanted to KNOW that I would make money in the niche or market before I spent my time working on it.

    So many newbies say that choosing their first niche is the hardest part of learning Internet marketing and it is what is holding them back. I completely understand because it held me back for longer than I care to admit. Then I learned the cold hard truth. It's almost impossible for a newbie to choose a niche that they know will be profitable because they don't have the experience or confidence to know what will work for them.

    And if you expect someone to tell you what their successful niche is you might as well ask them for their bank account numbers and what their passwords are. It ain't going to happen. So then, how do the people who are successful at affiliate marketing figure it out? Their desire to make money was greater than their fear of wasting their time. They took chances and learned by trial and error.

    There are people who are successful in almost every niche. So what does this tell you? It should tell you that choosing a niche is not as important as learning how to sell to that niche. This is a skill you will learn by practicing. Selling stuff online is mainly about one thing... SELLING.

    ----------end blog post-----------------------------

    So, I feel that getting started is more about mindset. Just choose a niche that you are interest in and one where people are already spending money. Next you need to learn and practice your basic marketing skills.

    Here is something else to think about. A successful marketer could tell you his best niche and just because she is successful doesn't necessarily mean you will be. Here's proof of that. I'll tell you a niche that I know for a fact that some people are making easily over $1000 per day. It's ringtones, but unless you have highly developed skills you will probably not make any money in that niche. Another niche is the Forex markets.

    I could go on and on, but the bottom line is just pick something and start learning the basics. As you develop your skills you will start to feel much less overwhelmed and more confident in your ability to choose niches.

    John P
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