Spent $4,000 - My website needs help.....

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I am not posting this thread to receive traffic by any means. I have been working on a website for the past three years and ready to give up on it. Just this year I have spent $4000 in programming.

I need some ideas on how I can turn this potential website into a steady cash flow.. It has great potential. Its basically a social networking site for spring break destinations, photos, videos and more.

http://www.springbreakshare.com

The only money I am making is off one ad and adsense. I have invested in SEOing, backlinking and other marketing techniques.

I just need some ideas how I can turn this website into cash flow. If it was your website what would you do differently?

Thanks for your time. Again I don't mean to post this for any advertisement or traffic.

Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author alamest
    My Friend you should make money through affiliate just by inputting dating sites.

    As you website is social networking site people will go through the banner and they will buy and it all depends on your traffic.

    And rest I think it is fine...
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    • Profile picture of the author tferraro11
      I like that idea, Im receiving 175 visits daily on average... Good or Bad?
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
    Ok I'll take your post a face value. Your site has a lot of 'noise' (ie it's very busy). Your call to action isn't clear. What do you want people to do when they visit?
    Promotion wise you need to get in front of college kids. I'd be speaking to colleges and seeing if you can advertise. Alternatively what about flyers to either hand out to college kids and/or place on their message board. What about running a competition for the whackiest spring break video (non adult) submitted?
    Those are my thoughts. I'm sure others will add theirs.

    Rich
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    • Profile picture of the author ThePenMaster
      Originally Posted by Richard Tunnah View Post

      Ok I'll take your post a face value. Your site has a lot of 'noise' (ie it's very busy). Your call to action isn't clear. What do you want people to do when they visit?
      Promotion wise you need to get in front of college kids. I'd be speaking to colleges and seeing if you can advertise. Alternatively what about flyers to either hand out to college kids and/or place on their message board. What about running a competition for the whackiest spring break video (non adult) submitted?
      Those are my thoughts. I'm sure others will add theirs.

      Rich
      i THINK THIS IS LIKELY TO BE SOME OF YOUR BEST ADVICE - GET YOUR SITE IN FRONT OF THE EYES THAT COUNT
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  • Profile picture of the author Slickster
    I'd affiliate with some of the travel partners you have at the bottom of the page so you get a cut of their sales. Right now, you're promoting Spring Break trips without getting any financial benefits from your efforts.
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    • Profile picture of the author tferraro11
      Originally Posted by Slickster View Post

      I'd affiliate with some of the travel partners you have at the bottom of the page so you get a cut of their sales. Right now, you're promoting Spring Break trips without getting any financial benefits from your efforts.
      I am currently doing this but its not driving much cash flow.
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  • Profile picture of the author SurajSodha
    hey buddy

    you have a cool site there, but unless your traffic increases dramatically monetizing with adsense won't get you the income you need to cover the costs or recoup your investment into the site.

    I'm going to echo what's been touched on already here - get on the affiliate marketing scene with this. You can approach travel companies organising spring break deals/flights/hotels etc and do JV's with them by driving traffic to their site from yours. It's a much better monetizing strategy than just adsense...

    You can bill the affiliate companies as 'Spring Break preferred suppliers' or something..
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    $4,000 for coding someone that used a bunch of open source code ? You have many mistakes in your html and it is not very browser friendly as some images overlap text.

    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" />
    <title>Spring Break | Spring Break Blogs | Spring Break Videos | Spring Break Photos</title>
    <meta name="keywords" content="spring break, spring break experience, spring break blogs, spring break forum, spring break photos, spring break videos, spring break girls, spring break guys, spring break destinations, spring break party">
    <meta name="description" content="SpringBreakShare - Spring Break Blogs and Spring Break Photos. Visit our Spring Break Forum! Check out the latest Spring Break Videos!">
    <meta name="author" content="FIT Web Design - www.fitwd.com">
    $4,000 and the website designer url is in your meta tags ? Oh no way, that would go for one thing.

    Your charset is wrong it should be UTF-8

    Your directories are not protected - Index of /images/home

    Your site is way to cluttered, which ends up confusing many people

    Your images are not seo'ed and apart from the meta tags neither is your site

    That is just a few for starters...

    Nice site and idea though ...

    James
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    • Profile picture of the author banless
      Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post


      $4,000 and the website designer url is in your meta tags ? Oh no way, that would go for one thing.
      I agree with everything you said seo wise except this one, having the designers name in the meta tags are irrelevant, would I have done that?, No, I wouldn't but I don't think it is an issue.
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      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Originally Posted by banless View Post

        I agree with everything you said seo wise except this one, having the designers name in the meta tags are irrelevant, would I have done that?, No, I wouldn't but I don't think it is an issue.
        It is an issue because the website designer DOES NOT own the site.. That meta tag (although ignored by search engines) says that the website designer owns the site..

        James
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    • Profile picture of the author tferraro11
      Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

      $4,000 for coding someone that used a bunch of open source code ? You have many mistakes in your html and it is not very browser friendly as some images overlap text.

      $4,000 and the website designer url is in your meta tags ? Oh no way, that would go for one thing.

      Your charset is wrong it should be UTF-8

      Your directories are not protected -

      Your site is way to cluttered, which ends up confusing many people

      Your images are not seo'ed and apart from the meta tags neither is your site

      That is just a few for starters...

      Nice site and idea though ...

      James
      WOW! Didnt even realize some of the stuff you mentioned. However, one question, you mentioned that "Your images are not seo'ed and apart from the meta tags neither is your site", why do you say my website isnt seo'ed? What draws you to this conclusion? Im just curious looking to help my website. Thanks for your thoughts!!
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      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Originally Posted by tferraro11 View Post

        WOW! Didnt even realize some of the stuff you mentioned. However, one question, you mentioned that "Your images are not seo'ed and apart from the meta tags neither is your site", why do you say my website isnt seo'ed? What draws you to this conclusion? Im just curious looking to help my website. Thanks for your thoughts!!
        You want your images (even I am guilty of not doing this sometimes) to be named as your keywords. So if you are targeting dog training then you would have images such as dog_training.jpg (the underscore is ignored for seo purposes). So in other words you would have in your html

        HTML Code:
        <img src="mydomain.com/images/dog_training.jpg" alt="how to train your dog">
        Where is your description repeated on your site ? Keywords repeated on your site ?

        I have turbo high speed, which is higher speed then dsl. It still takes me 55 sec to load your site, many will never stay around for it to load that slow. Think of all the people still on dialup ...

        James
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        • Profile picture of the author JasonValens
          Is there any demand for what you're offering?
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          • Profile picture of the author IM Starter
            Originally Posted by JasonValens View Post

            Is there any demand for what you're offering?
            I am with Jason on this.

            I am sure all the tech answers, seo suggestions and affiliate ideas are great and *could* make money but....

            My first question when embarking on a project is will it make money? Is it a good niche etc.

            I know everyone talks about finding desperate buyers but I would qualify that and say desperate buyers who are a)prepared to pay for a solution and b)can afford your solution.

            I have not looked into this but if I were to I would run a market samurai search and get some market intelligence. You have to find the money in the market otherwise you are just throwing money at some pretty looking virtual real estate.

            If there are some interesting trends in your market research I'd burn $250 on adwords and funnel the traffic over a range of basic squeeze pages to find out what they are looking to buy and how much they are prepared to spend.

            Just my 2c lol!

            Good luck with it though, it does look like you have worked hard on it and I think effort should be rewarded

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      • Profile picture of the author kentaiwan98
        I wouldn't know what to say about the whole site, but as a new visitor I was able to get a sense of the purpose of the site quite quickly... And it's a nice looking site... However,...

        The site breaks some of the most important rules of new sites:

        Cluttered
        Overladen with unused features
        Empty forums (never start with so many forums ... with only 260 members, you should really huddle the discussions to make it seem more busy)... Cut, cut, cut. (You have 90 forums! 90!)... that's just silly: that's one post per forum so far.
        Many links just don't work. DON'T Work: example: http://www.springbreakshare.com/spri...g-break-negril is one of dozens from the front page....
        forum pages (esp. top, don't go back to frontpage either, so you lose traffic).

        Only one suggestion: trim, cut, and then trim some more... until the core idea is there... it's a site built for tens of thousands of visitors not the hundreds you seem to have.

        But the biggest failing: you haven't done any serious link building or advertising at all... Stop spending money on the site, trim it down to something more manageable, and technically correct... then spend money on advertising (if you must) doing some of the things mentioned in this forum. Stop spending money on the site: it's fine as it is.

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        • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
          Originally Posted by kentaiwan98 View Post

          But the biggest failing: you haven't done any serious link building or advertising at all...
          Exactly my thoughts as well. It looks like a "build it and they will come" type site.

          I would suggest taking a look at the model Markus Frind did for PlentyofFish.com
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          • Profile picture of the author tferraro11
            Are you talking about Angela's method?
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            • Profile picture of the author kentaiwan98
              Not really. Simple honest linkbuilding ... nothing sophisticated. Link building for traffic esp. (PR will follow) ... Get your site noticed. esp. in education circles.

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              • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
                Originally Posted by kentaiwan98 View Post

                Not really. Simple honest linkbuilding ... nothing sophisticated.

                Kenneth
                I know you did not just suggest that Angela's Packets are not honest linkbuilding ....

                I would rewrite that if I was you ...

                James
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                • Profile picture of the author tferraro11
                  Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

                  I know you did not just suggest that Angela's Packets are not honest linkbuilding ....

                  I would rewrite that if I was you ...

                  James
                  Sorry met to quote this post.... Duplicate...

                  How do you ping your sitemap and your website content??

                  Thanks to everyone so far including TheRickJerksNet for the great ideas... Keep them coming, this is really opening my eyes.. I think I gave to much money to my webmaster... I need to focus on the marketing from what Im reading.
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                  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
                    Originally Posted by tferraro11 View Post

                    Sorry met to quote this post.... Duplicate...

                    How do you ping your sitemap and your website content??

                    Thanks to everyone so far including TheRickJerksNet for the great ideas... Keep them coming, this is really opening my eyes.. I think I gave to much money to my webmaster... I need to focus on the marketing from what Im reading.
                    I sent you a PM with some links that will help you understand this in more details...

                    James
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            • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
              Originally Posted by tferraro11 View Post

              Are you talking about Angela's method?
              You can not go by yahoo or any other site for that matter as they will not report all backlinks.. Many they never report.

              In anycase what is meant by building backlinks and marketing your site.

              * Social Bookmarking to 100's of sites (including inner pages)
              * Publish Articles to 100's of article direcories
              * Creating Profiles and Interacting with others on social sites
              * Search Engine submission to 100's of search engines
              * Pinging your sites content
              * Building a sitemap and ping it
              * Posting Articles and/or Documents to document sharing sites
              * Creating a few videos (how to) and post them to many video sites
              * Creating and Submitting Rss Feeds to Rss Directories
              * Publishing Press Releases with PR Sites
              * Start a giveaway - Giveaway something for free or have a contest to give away something of great value.

              This is just to name a few... Many other ways to drive traffic.

              First and foremost though, no matter how much of that you do, unless you clean up the cluttered site it will not help much.

              Look at Google, Twitter, FaceBook, LinkedIn, and etc .. Their front pages are not cluttered at all. Course you may not have the money they have either and might think you have to slam those ads in everyones face that visits. Trust me clean main site, if your target visitors are interested then they will join.

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              • Profile picture of the author tferraro11
                How do you ping your sitemap and your website content??

                Thanks to everyone so far including TheRickJerksNet for the great ideas... Keep them coming, this is really opening my eyes.. I think I gave to much money to my webmaster... I need to focus on the marketing from what Im reading.
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                • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
                  Originally Posted by tferraro11 View Post

                  I think I gave too much money to my webmaster... I need to focus on the marketing from what Im reading.
                  I'm definitely going to be the odd man out on this one...First off, you didn't give too much money to your webmaster. That person, if they are indeed responsible for all the content, compiled a tremendous amount.

                  Secondly, I actually played around quite a bit with the site, and the more I did, the more I liked your site.

                  You are right that you need to focus more on the marketing end of things.

                  Not discounting any of the above comments on how to improve your site, you've been given a number of good ideas, but I think you should be given some credit for building what I consider a pretty cool site. So kudos to you. I liked your site.

                  If you could find a way to create an affiliate program where college students could earn money by promoting your site, in essence create a mechanism to help the site go viral and profitable at the same time, that may help you grow exponentially.

                  Again, I think your site has a lot of potential, and you should be proud of what you've done so far. Keep on improving little by little and you'll get there.

                  KJ
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                  • Profile picture of the author tferraro11
                    Originally Posted by Killer Joe View Post

                    I'm definitely going to be the odd man out on this one...First off, you didn't give too much money to your webmaster. That person, if they are indeed responsible for all the content, compiled a tremendous amount.

                    Secondly, I actually played around quite a bit with the site, and the more I did, the more I liked your site.

                    You are right that you need to focus more on the marketing end of things.

                    Not discounting any of the above comments on how to improve your site, you've been given a number of good ideas, but I think you should be given some credit for building what I consider a pretty cool site. So kudos to you. I liked your site.

                    If you could find a way to create an affiliate program where college students could earn money by promoting your site, in essence create a mechanism to help the site go viral and profitable at the same time, that may help you grow exponentially.

                    Again, I think your site has a lot of potential, and you should be proud of what you've done so far. Keep on improving little by little and you'll get there.

                    KJ
                    I have spent a total $4500 just this year and total of $15,000 if not more to my webmaster for this website... You still think a good deal?
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                    • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
                      Originally Posted by tferraro11 View Post

                      I have spent a total $4500 just this year and total of $15,000 if not more to my webmaster for this website... You still think a good deal?
                      You're subject line said you'd spent $4,000. Now, it's over $15,000.

                      So whether it's a good deal depends on what your ROI will be including the time frame to get into positive territory with this site.

                      I will admit it's looking a lot bleaker given the higher figure.

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  • Profile picture of the author banless
    That is a really cool site, I wouldn't give up on it. You might also want to try and sell some banner space to a few relevant sites, this is the only thing I can really think of, everyone else has pretty hit it on the nose.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Speaking from personal experience, Ive built a number of sites like this before becoming involved in internet marketing. Infact I built five, each taking almost a year each to develop. Only one of those sites is still up today and actually makes me money. I could spend hours telling you various stories of heartache. Lost money, countless hours, and lots of stress.

    From what I can tell, you're trying to do similiar here - as in a build a huge site attracting thousands of visitors daily.

    The smartest thing I ever did was get out of this "build huge complicated websites" mentality.

    Nowadays, I build 10 or 20 page flat html sites selling infoproducts that make me money almost instantly with next to nothing in terms of cost.

    Youre overcomplicating the process - keep it simple.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Then
    You put WAY TOO MUCH THINGS in front of the first page.

    I believe that this website has the potential but it's too cluttered.

    I want you to look at this website:

    Welcome to About.com

    Yes, it's about.com. Is it cluttered? Is it well organized? Can I find what I want?

    If you surf that entire site, you'll see a hierarchical navigation.

    That should be the way your website should be.

    Have a SINGLE, FOCUSED purpose in every part of your website, yet it allows people to visit other sections of your website.

    In that way, you can target the right products, right affiliate products, right adsense, etc.

    I suggest that you do a revamp of the structure.
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  • Profile picture of the author kentaiwan98
    I'm not rewriting that word 'honest' ... I mean 'honest' ... as in simple, pure, straightforward, real, humble, plain, ...

    I've considered using Angela's links... so it's good linkbait, but it won't help as much with getting real traffic as genuine link building strategies via ezines, web 2.0, forum posting, etc. etc.... who cares about PR when you're thousands in the hole... you need real people! and PR really doesn't help that much ...

    Kenneth
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammad Afaq
    I think that the only reason is that you have a lot competition and there are huge social networking sites that get all the traffic and attraction.

    You can still get traffic and signups but you have to find out a way to get your site in front of people. I would recommed you do article marketing and promote the website through the social networking sites.

    Just try to make it to the front page of digg and other social bookmarking sites. Try using stumble upon and if you site gets couple of thumbups that domino effect can start and it can get you a lot of traffic.

    Start a fan page of you social networking site on facebook and get some visitors to it. Also make sure that you do one thing, complete it, and then start doing something else because if you just touch article marketing and write some junk articles you won't get any traffic or any thing.

    Also, if you need ideas for articles to write about then I would recommend writing a review about your site.

    Edit: If forgot, write a press release and submit it to free press release sites and also if you can afford (it's not alot) pay PRweb.com to feature your press realease. Try asking all of your friends to sign up to your site and also don't forget promoting by twitter.

    Just make sure that you do your best and finish what you start and you will be on your way to success in no time.
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  • Profile picture of the author RentItNow
    Pretty well whats been said. Page is WAY WAY too busy (but this may be what your market gravitates to). My eye IMMEDIATELY goes to the word 'member' and think you are trying to sell me a membership...no thanks, I can get this info free somewhere else. Click (just people's thinking).

    Set up a more of a sales funnel. (google it)

    I have dealt with the college market and it is EXTREMELY hard to make money from. Google college marketing and gain some basic marketing knowledge about that segment, then apply it a bit to your site.

    And last, keep going at it!

    BTW, why are you spending $4000! Learn some HTML and simplify the page and do it yourself. Get dreamweaver and only hire the parts that you absolutely have to.
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    • Profile picture of the author tferraro11
      Originally Posted by RentItNow View Post

      Pretty well whats been said. Page is WAY WAY too busy (but this may be what your market gravitates to). My eye IMMEDIATELY goes to the word 'member' and think you are trying to sell me a membership...no thanks, I can get this info free somewhere else. Click (just people's thinking).

      Set up a more of a sales funnel. (google it)

      I have dealt with the college market and it is EXTREMELY hard to make money from. Google college marketing and gain some basic marketing knowledge about that segment, then apply it a bit to your site.

      And last, keep going at it!

      BTW, why are you spending $4000! Learn some HTML and simplify the page and do it yourself. Get dreamweaver and only hire the parts that you absolutely have to.

      My webmaster says its all done in php and smart templates, whatever that is..... This would save some money if I could learn some basic programming. Good point...
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      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Originally Posted by tferraro11 View Post

        My webmaster says its all done in php and smart templates, whatever that is..... This would save some money if I could learn some basic programming. Good point...
        It is coded in php but using free open source code and smarty templates is a free open source code system to manage templates and it is one of the worst things to use for a site.

        Personally I thought I was expensive, if I still took on clients .. I would have charged no more than $7,000 for the entire site with proper seo and proper structure + full support for life + marketing advice + It would have been "custom coded" from the ground up (meaning no free open source code would have been used)... Time frame 4 - 6 months.

        Sorry you have had this trouble but time to move on and find another developer if you need more help.. There are some on this very forum I am sure would help you out.

        Time to concentrate now on cleaning up the site and get your marketing going...

        James
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        • Profile picture of the author tferraro11
          Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

          It is coded in php but using free open source code and smarty templates is a free open source code system to manage templates and it is one of the worst things to use for a site.

          Personally I thought I was expensive, if I still took on clients .. I would have charged no more than $7,000 for the entire site with proper seo and proper structure + full support for life + marketing advice + It would have been "custom coded" from the ground up (meaning no free open source code would have been used)... Time frame 4 - 6 months.

          Sorry you have had this trouble but time to move on and find another developer if you need more help.. There are some on this very forum I am sure would help you out.

          Time to concentrate now on cleaning up the site and get your marketing going...

          James
          Wow.. Thanks James... I have a lot to think about this weekend.... I'll keep you posted on which direction Im heading.. Thanks for all the insight you have given and thanks to everyone else!!! This has helped a ton!!
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          • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
            Originally Posted by tferraro11 View Post

            Wow.. Thanks James... I have a lot to think about this weekend.... I'll keep you posted on which direction Im heading.. Thanks for all the insight you have given and thanks to everyone else!!! This has helped a ton!!
            Your welcome ... Just a caution though, since this "developer" has chosen to use a bunch of open source code and slap it together, I would find a "real" developer (meaning someone that can code from scratch) to check over the site for security flaws.

            You do not want all that money you invested to go down the drain just to allow some hacker get access to your system due to someone over-charging you for free open source code.

            James
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        • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
          Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

          It is coded in php but using free open source code and smarty templates is a free open source code system to manage templates and it is one of the worst things to use for a site.
          What are your concerns about Smarty templates? Security, code quality or something else?
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          • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
            Originally Posted by bgmacaw View Post

            What are your concerns about Smarty templates? Security, code quality or something else?
            Code quality ... As a developer it is the worst system ever created for template management. I know many will bash me for that but hey to each his own.. I have built 10,000's of sites from scratch and I have worked on 1,000's of junky coded sites.

            Smarty slows down a site and thus putting more of a strain on the server also ....

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  • Profile picture of the author vagabondette
    wow...I'm on graphics overload. I agree with the others, there is just way too much going on. That scrolly picture thing in the middle made me ill looking at it. Most of what I have to give for visual feedback has been said so I'll focus on money.

    Why not contact the bars that these kids go to for spring break and talk to them about a partnership. They either advertise for free on your site in exchange to promoting you to their lists or they pay for advertising space. One will get you visitors, one will get you money.

    If you have schools in your area, find out where the kids hang and ask the bars if you can put up some fliers or maybe even sponsor a night to get the word out. You could see about getting some gifts to raffle away or get some cheap bracelets (those ones they use at concerts) to use for identification (so they'll remember what they were doing the next day ) for a discount or something. But you have to figure out a way to make it worthwhile to the bar.

    Get creative, make sure everyone you've ever met knows about this and that they tell their kids and grand kids.

    (BTW, just have to say this, definitely pare down your forum to just US, Mexico, Caribbean, Europe, Other. A single forum for each. Once you get more than a couple dozen posts on different topics you can split it into more sub-categories. You also want to monitor them because riht now the most recent posts are an ad for viagra and for a competing mexico spring break website. If you make it obvious that you're not monitoring the forum people won't want to participate because it'll just be all spam.)
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  • Profile picture of the author Nonny
    Since you are presumably targeting college students who likely already belong to one or more social networks, have you considered making it easy for them to share what they post on your site with those other sites? For example, I've noticed more and more web sites with "Post this to your Facebook Wall" and "Tweet This" type buttons. Having someone with a lot of Facebook friends share a link to their "Spring Break Share" photo album or blog post would be free word-of-mouth advertising.

    And just to expand on TheRichJerksNet suggestion that you hold a contest: why not hold a contest with a nice prize for the best video or photo or blog post, with the winner determined by the voting of other members - that way the people who enter are likely to encourage their friends to sign up too.

    I'm sure with some brainstorming you could come up with lots of other ideas that would improve your word-of-mouth advertising.
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    • Profile picture of the author vagabondette
      Originally Posted by Nonny View Post

      Since you are presumably targeting college students who likely already belong to one or more social networks, have you considered making it easy for them to share what they post on your site with those other sites? For example, I've noticed more and more web sites with "Post this to your Facebook Wall" and "Tweet This" type buttons. Having someone with a lot of Facebook friends share a link to their "Spring Break Share" photo album or blog post would be free word-of-mouth advertising.

      And just to expand on TheRichJerksNet suggestion that you hold a contest: why not hold a contest with a nice prize for the best video or photo or blog post, with the winner determined by the voting of other members - that way the people who enter are likely to encourage their friends to sign up too.

      I'm sure with some brainstorming you could come up with lots of other ideas that would improve your word-of-mouth advertising.
      To build off of this a good place to advertise would probably be Facebook...

      Also, as far as the contest goes, you can get decent digital cameras for cheap. That would make a great prize for this kind of contest and award it about a month before spring break starts.

      If you install some sort of reward points system to track referrals, voting, etc. you could do it on a points basis. Ex. someone gets 5 points for referring a new member. Then they get a point each time their story/picture/etc. is voted for. They get a point for each forum post. They get a point for each blog post/new picture/etc. Use those points to trade in for goods (coupons to restaurants, stores, etc.) and the person with the most points wins the camera. This will get people active on the site (you'll have to monitor it, especially the forum, for bogus posts) and referring their friends.

      You could also have someone create a FB app. Something along the lines of "which spring break destination are you?" and put your advertising and info about the contest on that page.
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  • Profile picture of the author Always-A-Warrior
    I like it but your beach is 'too crowded'. Give it some breathing room so those girls smile better and that slide thing at the top has to go. Its distracting.

    Too much use of keywords, 'Spring Break' and as for making money, use CPA networks. Add beauty ads, health ads, etc.

    my 2 cents
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  • Profile picture of the author Irish Marketer
    Write some articles, also put up an opt in page FIRST. Give them a newsletter top ten spring break destinations. TIP SPRING BREAK IS NOT BIG IN EUROPE. We Go in the summer.
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    • Profile picture of the author tferraro11
      So what I am understanding is Clean Up Website ( user friendlyness)

      Then a possible domain name change. How would the domain name change affect my current rankings? Is it worth doing at this point?

      I own www.fnspringbreak.com and www.fnspringbreakrules.com Are these better domain names to use instead of springbreakshare.com.
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      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Originally Posted by tferraro11 View Post

        So what I am understanding is Clean Up Website ( user friendlyness)

        Then a possible domain name change. How would the domain name change affect my current rankings? Is it worth doing at this point?

        I own www.fnspringbreak.com and www.fnspringbreakrules.com Are these better domain names to use instead of springbreakshare.com.
        Who told you to change your domain name ??? That is one bad peice of advice I would not listen to ... If you own other domains then slap up a blog with related articles and point all articles to your main site.

        Bookmark those articles, submit rss feeds, and etc ...

        James
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        • Profile picture of the author tferraro11
          Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

          Who told you to change your domain name ??? That is one bad peice of advice I would not listen to ... If you own other domains then slap up a blog with related articles and point all articles to your main site.

          Bookmark those articles, submit rss feeds, and etc ...

          James
          Ok, Ill ignore that comment... You have been a great resource and provided me a lot of information. I appreciate your help. What would you pay for someone to SEO my website including backlinks, directory submissions, written articles, submission of articles, and the creation of a link wheel? Whats the average montlhy fee for someone to do this type of work?
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          • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
            Originally Posted by tferraro11 View Post

            Ok, Ill ignore that comment... You have been a great resource and provided me a lot of information. I appreciate your help. What would you pay for someone to SEO my website including backlinks, directory submissions, written articles, submission of articles, and the creation of a link wheel? Whats the average montlhy fee for someone to do this type of work?
            You could try:

            Article Writing:
            Lin - LinWrites.com - Ghostwriting Services and Content Writing
            Eric - SEO, Article Marketing, Pay Per Click, Social Networking, CPA Networks

            Creates Blogs
            Suzanne - View Profile: sbucciarel

            Article Submission and Directory Submission I personally would do myself but I am sure you can find some great wso's for these.

            You are not going to find 1 person that will be skilled in all this. You also want to deal with trustworthy people. SEO on your site, there is a for hire section on the main page of this forum. Before giving anyone access to your site get to know them and talk with them...

            Hope that is of some help to you ...

            James
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  • Profile picture of the author ForeignProfessor
    I looked at it. I'm not an IM expert. I'm probably closer to a 'customer' than some other posters.

    Here are the things that struck me:

    (1) It says "Comming soon" in several places. The correct spelling is "coming" not "comming". This just smacks of unprofessionalism. It would have made me immediately click away. This was the very first thing I noticed. Maybe I'm anal, but it annoyed me.

    (2) It's way way too cluttered. I spent about a minute on your site and I don't know what it's for. Do you want to get people to go to the forums? Do you want people to read reviews of spring break destinations? Do you want people to read trip reports, and if so, won't this overlap a lot with the forum since it's a small site? Do you want people to look at pics of hot girls/guys wearing very little and having a good time?

    (3) Your front page is LONG. If I have to scroll down more than an inch or two I'm not interested, simply because I don't know what the hell I'm there for. I think you need to simplify it and have links to reviews of good destinations, a (much smaller) forum, and perhaps a tiny preview of a photo gallery of hotties being drunk and stupid.
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  • Profile picture of the author tferraro11
    Originally Posted by viteshb View Post

    Your website has a lot of potential, the problem is that you need to apply marketing techniques to monetize your site. I know a similar site like your that asks $19,95 a month and has a couple thousand of members. How did the owner do it ? He makes the site attractive and offers people a $1 dollar trial. I don't see a optin box, so you cant build a list. If you would have a list build in the past years you could do a Launch type, like stompernet, this would deffo bring in some heavy dollars. My 2 cents.
    I like that idea.. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author netkid
    I don't think anyone touched on the aspect if this market is financially viable in this period of recession where world travel is down BIG time. That could be the number one reason why you are not getting revenue and lots of uniques on it.

    Also, is the market hungry for going to a site like this, even in good financial times?

    You may want to think about going back to basics and do niche market research on this topic. Is this spring break topic being searched hundreds of times a day? By looking at the meta tag words, I don't know if enough time was spent on your keyword and keyword phrase list.

    Other than that, great idea. I would change it more towards a vacation themed site.

    Good luck,

    Bruce
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