Go Back   WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums > The Warrior Forum > Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum
Register Blogs FAQ Social Groups CalendarHelp Desk

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-02-2009, 04:57 PM   #1
Warrior Member
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Fairlawn, Ohio
Posts: 12
Thanks: 2
Thanked 15 Times in 2 Posts
Contact Info
Send a message via AIM to attorneyjaffe
Default Web Law Alert re Privacy Policy & TOS

Dear Friends:

I am a lawyer with a practice limited to Internet law. I have sent the following alert to my clients for their consideration and I thought this information may be of use to my Warrior friends:

There has been a change in the way courts view and enforce the Terms of Service (TOS) and Privacy Policy (PP) of web sites. Previously, the courts have taken the view that a link to your PP or TOS will create an enforceable contract (called a “browser wrap” agreement.) This view was affirmed by then Judge and now Justice Sotomayor in her decision in Specht v. Netscape Communications Corp.

However, on September 4, 2009, Judge Sterling Johnson of the Eastern District of New York changed that view with his decision in the case of Hines v. Overstock.com. In his decision, Judge Johnson has taken the view that merely saying that by using a web site you have agreed to its terms does not mean that the user has had reasonable notice to those terms. His view was that for the PP and TOS to be enforceable, the site user needs to indicate his acceptance of these terms by a manifestation of assent. It is my belief that this decision changes the previous law of “browser wrap” to a new level, the “click wrap” (i.e. the user clicks his consent.)

While the opinion of Judge Johnson is not binding on all courts, I am of the belief that it will be embraced throughout the court system. His decision reminds me of the decision in Parker v South Eastern Railway, an English case from 1877, which every first year lawyer learns in their Contracts class. In that case, the jury decided that it is NOT reasonable to expect people to read the “contract” on the back of a railroad ticket. This case has never been overturned and is the law in the U.S., having been used as the precedent and cited in case law to include the back of movie tickets, parking lot receipts, coat check receipts, etc. Given this old precedent, I think the Hines case will quickly become the law of the land with lawyers arguing a browser wrap contract is no different than the back of a movie ticket.

My recommendation: To make sure your users have constructive notice of the terms contained in your PP and TOS I strongly recommend that you use an “I agree” click button on your web site for your PP & TOS when your users register and (if a commercial site) again during the ordering process.

Please feel free to call me if you have any questions concerning my view of how your web site should function. I will be glad to discuss this issue as a free consultation.

Andrew M. Jaffe, Attorney at Law
(330) 666-5026
attorneyjaffe@aol.com
www.netlaws.us
This web site is for assistance and information only and does not provide legal advice. The attorney-client relationship is not established by this site.
attorneyjaffe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2009, 05:33 PM   #2
Screencaster Yoda
War Room Member
 
Marty S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 1,455
Blog Entries: 11
Thanks: 241
Thanked 317 Times in 213 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Contact Info
Send a message via MSN to Marty S Send a message via Skype™ to Marty S
Default Re: Web Law Alert re Privacy Policy & TOS

Quote:
Originally Posted by attorneyjaffe View Post

My recommendation: To make sure your users have constructive notice of the terms contained in your PP and TOS I strongly recommend that you use an “I agree” click button on your web site for your PP & TOS when your users register and (if a commercial site) again during the ordering process.
Thank you for this. Do you think this would this be necessary for users just signing up for auto-responders?

Marty S is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2009, 07:37 PM   #3
PRs,Reports,Sales Writing
War Room Member
 
BradCarroll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 368
Thanks: 93
Thanked 39 Times in 30 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Yahoo to BradCarroll Send a message via Skype™ to BradCarroll
Default Re: Web Law Alert re Privacy Policy & TOS

Bye-bye, resveratrol!

BradCarroll is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2009, 11:45 PM   #4
Warrior Member
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Fairlawn, Ohio
Posts: 12
Thanks: 2
Thanked 15 Times in 2 Posts
Contact Info
Send a message via AIM to attorneyjaffe
Default Re: Web Law Alert re Privacy Policy & TOS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty S View Post
Thank you for this. Do you think this would this be necessary for users just signing up for auto-responders?
Dear Marty S,

It is what I suggest for you to make sure your TOS & PP are enforcable. If you don't care about that (and you may not), then its not necessary.

Andrew M. Jaffe, Attorney at Law
(330) 666-5026
attorneyjaffe@aol.com
www.netlaws.us
This web site is for assistance and information only and does not provide legal advice. The attorney-client relationship is not established by this site.
attorneyjaffe is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

  WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums > The Warrior Forum > Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum

Tags
alert, law, policy, privacy, tos, web

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:36 PM.