why is micro niche finder giving me a green light for SOC but the comp is PR5 with 500+ BL

jimkirk1943 · 10-04-2009, 04:48 PM

Hi guys,
Why would my micro niche finder give me a green light on SOC but when i check out the top 5 sites for that keyword i see a PR5 site with 500+ BL`s sitting at the top ??

Is it ever worth going after a keyword like this i understand you can do some great BL tricks with some of the WSO here but is it really worth the time on most niches ??
Cheers Jim

darkblue · 10-17-2009, 12:23 PM

You have to use all the data MNF gives you.

If it gives you a green light for a specific keyword, it must have a reason for it. check the advanced results for SOC, ( the allinanchor, allintitle and allinurl )

See which one is the weak link, and take advantage of that one.

Some keywords may have

allinanchor: 10.000
allintitle: 5600
allinurl: 80

You have found your weak link here: if you can get that keyword in your url, you are golden.

there are times when all the above are over 1000, and the SOC is still green (but it is around 40 or above), in this case just go to the next keyword.

You'll se that the more you use MNF, the more you will like it, and you'll learn how to read all the data it gives you.

good luck!

jitterbug978 · 10-17-2009, 01:50 PM

I have stopped using MNF..SOC results just... Arent accurate. All the info is pulled from Google... and we all know they sometimes appear to inflate numbers now and again.

Good ol' common sense will always prevail.

rainyclayday · 10-17-2009, 02:14 PM

I use MNF to initially gather my keywords, then I look at the top 10 results for each KW in Google to evaluate it for myself. Most of the time I can use the KWs I get from MNF but not always. If you do those two things in combination you should be fine. It's given me really good results.

vicone · 10-17-2009, 03:05 PM

The SOC figures you receive are about the number of strongly competing sites that you have to contend with. It doesn't focus on the top-ranked page.

It normally gives the green light if there are 50 or fewer strong contenders. Of course, you still have to assess the competition and get an idea of the strength of those on the front page. However, on average, the keywords which get the green light indicate those keywords to pay special attention to and which are likely to perform best for you.

When checking the front page - which is where you want to be - you may decide the competition is too strong. Or... you may decide that even if the top position is strong you can still gain a place on the front page. No. 2 can be a sweet spot too!

Ivan

Zeus66 · 10-17-2009, 04:03 PM

Yep, the last 2 replies are dead on. SOC is just the first step. Don't take a green light as your green light. Take it as the green light to proceed to the next step, which is to check the Top 10 for vulnerabilities. If you see nothing but TLD's there, move on. If you see lots of inner page URLs, article pages, videos, etc. then you might have a realistic shot without spending weeks on backlinks.

John

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jimkirk1943 Pum yaak bpai Pattaya NOW War Room Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 832 Thanks: 195 Thanked 31 Times in 23 Posts	why is micro niche finder giving me a green light for SOC but the comp is PR5 with 500+ BL Hi guys, Why would my micro niche finder give me a green light on SOC but when i check out the top 5 sites for that keyword i see a PR5 site with 500+ BL`s sitting at the top ?? Is it ever worth going after a keyword like this i understand you can do some great BL tricks with some of the WSO here but is it really worth the time on most niches ?? Cheers Jim

10-17-2009, 12:23 PM	#2
darkblue SEO Junkie Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 50 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: why is micro niche finder giving me a green light for SOC but the comp is PR5 with 500+ BL You have to use all the data MNF gives you. If it gives you a green light for a specific keyword, it must have a reason for it. check the advanced results for SOC, ( the allinanchor, allintitle and allinurl ) See which one is the weak link, and take advantage of that one. Some keywords may have allinanchor: 10.000 allintitle: 5600 allinurl: 80 You have found your weak link here: if you can get that keyword in your url, you are golden. there are times when all the above are over 1000, and the SOC is still green (but it is around 40 or above), in this case just go to the next keyword. You'll se that the more you use MNF, the more you will like it, and you'll learn how to read all the data it gives you. good luck!

10-17-2009, 01:50 PM	#3
jitterbug978 Rock 'N Roll Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: United States Posts: 516 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 2 Thanked 23 Times in 22 Posts Social Networking	Re: why is micro niche finder giving me a green light for SOC but the comp is PR5 with 500+ BL I have stopped using MNF..SOC results just... Arent accurate. All the info is pulled from Google... and we all know they sometimes appear to inflate numbers now and again. Good ol' common sense will always prevail.
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rainyclayday HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Central Florida Posts: 112 Thanks: 44 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: why is micro niche finder giving me a green light for SOC but the comp is PR5 with 500+ BL I use MNF to initially gather my keywords, then I look at the top 10 results for each KW in Google to evaluate it for myself. Most of the time I can use the KWs I get from MNF but not always. If you do those two things in combination you should be fine. It's given me really good results.

10-17-2009, 03:05 PM	#5
vicone Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia. Posts: 1,253 Thanks: 68 Thanked 191 Times in 160 Posts	Re: why is micro niche finder giving me a green light for SOC but the comp is PR5 with 500+ BL The SOC figures you receive are about the number of strongly competing sites that you have to contend with. It doesn't focus on the top-ranked page. It normally gives the green light if there are 50 or fewer strong contenders. Of course, you still have to assess the competition and get an idea of the strength of those on the front page. However, on average, the keywords which get the green light indicate those keywords to pay special attention to and which are likely to perform best for you. When checking the front page - which is where you want to be - you may decide the competition is too strong. Or... you may decide that even if the top position is strong you can still gain a place on the front page. No. 2 can be a sweet spot too! Ivan
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10-17-2009, 04:03 PM	#6
Zeus66 John Schwartz War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Near Dallas, TX, USA Posts: 3,691 Thanks: 1,620 Thanked 3,245 Times in 1,140 Posts Social Networking	Re: why is micro niche finder giving me a green light for SOC but the comp is PR5 with 500+ BL Yep, the last 2 replies are dead on. SOC is just the first step. Don't take a green light as your green light. Take it as the green light to proceed to the next step, which is to check the Top 10 for vulnerabilities. If you see nothing but TLD's there, move on. If you see lots of inner page URLs, article pages, videos, etc. then you might have a realistic shot without spending weeks on backlinks. John
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