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Old 10-06-2009, 10:54 AM   #51
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I'd like to run a contest for the best War Room ad...

If you'd like to enter, just create a post about the War Room just like you would do if you were going to sell it in the WSO section.

As big as you want, images allowed...whatever..

Only one restriction - don't use or ask other members for testimonials. This forum is loaded with testimonials for the War Room so that is not needed.

Although you can, if you wish, link to any of the multiple threads about the War Room.

There will be first, second and third place winners.

1st Place Wins: $3000
2nd Place Wins: $2000
3rd Place Wins: $1000

THEN, I'm going to split test those and the winner of the split test will win another $5000 on top of what he or she already won.

Please make your post in the TEST FORUM section and then place the link here in this thread when you are done.

Any questions just ask...

Thanks!

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UPDATE: I think I made a mistake by saying the word 'ad'. I'm looking more for something like a "Large Review" :-)

I'm noticing many entries that are about the size of classified ads. That's not going to tell a potential member much.

I'm trying to avoid the words "Sales Letter" because that's not really what I'm looking for. At least not in the general sense of the term anyway.

I'm looking for something like a Review/Testimonial/Sales letter hybrid. And larger than a classified ad for sure :-)

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OK Heres my promo

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I threw together an image entry. If I can finish my client work, I will add a few more if that's allowed:

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Interesting.. I'll have my message ready this afternoon..
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Old 10-06-2009, 11:35 AM   #55
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My submission to this contest is here:

Just WHAT About The "War Room" Makes One Warrior Sponsor 6 Others In?

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What War Room Members Know That You Don't Yet

My hat in the ring.

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Old 10-06-2009, 11:41 AM   #57
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Default Re: CONTEST - $3000, $2000 & $1000 Winners...UPDATED!

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Ha - I thought about doing a video entry - and already did one for the WF a week ago, but can this be used for this contest?

Allen, please clarify - will only written submission be accepted or can audio and/or video be submitted?

Thanks a bunch.
Jill,

Allen said this in the OP

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As big as you want, images allowed...whatever..

Only one restriction - don't use or ask other members for testimonials. This forum is loaded with testimonials for the War Room so that is not needed.
so I took that to mean videos would be OK.

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I guarantee this is unlike any ad you will ever see for the War Room.

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Default Re: CONTEST - $3000, $2000 & $1000 Winners...UPDATED!

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Jill, I'm not a copywriter whatsoever but I think you are crazy if you change yours. I liked what I wrote as a review until I read yours. If we could vote, you'd get my vote.

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You are so sweet to say that! I keep looking over everyone elses post/shoulders for ideas. LOL

I do have just one more thing I might try.

Everyones style is so different!

I keep re-reading the rules and I'm probably over analyzing at this point. Someone suggested I may have been a bit too wordy which doesn't surprise me.

I keep thinking I would vote for everyone elses but mine at this point.

Your formula is much better in my opinion - your bullets are obvious, length is good, and I like how it has almost a press release feel to it.

Ok, I need to get on this quick b/c I can already see this going by very quickly. Competition is looking stiff and looks like I need to pull out some serious guns if I'm going to have a chance in this fight.

PS, something going on strange on this forum, I just saw a bunch of quoted things appear below my post that I didn't select to quote.

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Default What Are You Thinking ????

Okay...I love this. This is such a fascinating contest.

Not sure whether I'll enter. Maybe. We'll see.

BUT WHAT ARE MOST OF YOU THINKING ???

Here are 2 big problems (in my admittedly not so humble opinion -- but then I've written 10s of thousands, if not 100s of thousands, of words of copy critiques for a stable of enthusiastic clients...)

The domain of the game is: copy, advertising, marketing.

What do we know about this game?

ATTENTION IS GOD!

What else do we know?

Thank you, Seth Godin -- people are slammed with thousands of marketing messages each day.

WHAT IS MAKING YOUR MARKETING MESSAGE STAND OUT?

I mean...from the get go. From the very first point where you even announce that you've made an entry?

You're missing an opportunity. That link -- that link should say something that gets the reader's pulse racing more than:

"My War Room Ad."

See, your marketing has to stand out from the get go. From the earliest possible moment. (And, having written this, don't you think I'll get a whole lot more readers to my entry...just because I'm cheeky enough to put my two cents' worth in here? You're going to remember me. Why? Because I didn't take the standard route.

THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX

In more ways than one.

How you introduce yourself, and your entry, is one way to think outside the box. It's actually thinking about the whole process. The whole process of delicious, delicate and fragile attention.

NOW, I'M GOING TO BE EVEN MORE CHEEKY

In fact, my criticism even goes after one of the entrants who is a very successful copywriter (but I think most people here don't know that. You might have to visit another forum to discover that.)

Even his link to his entry has the most pablum-like, oatmeal-bland link.

IT'S ALL ABOUT SEDUCTION...

Every. Single. Piece.

Start, from the very first thought, with seduction.

How can I get people excited FROM THE GET GO.

BIG PROBLEM #2:

This is ALSO A "THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX" ISSUE.

Wonderful that thinking outside the box can have so many facets to it.

What is the FIRST think you should be doing as a marketer and/or copywriter?

WHO IS YOUR MARKET?

Has anyone asked Allen Word One About who the target market is?

Oh, you think it's obvious?

Okay -- then, is it for people who are long time members of the Warrior Forum -- know what the Warrior Forum is, know, or have heard of, the "War Room" ?

Many of you are writing as though that's the case.

You are making assumptions -- and you've never asked Allen question 1. (Except about deadlines, somewhat important -- and about images -- something which, as someone pointed out, that a careful reading of Allen's post would have easily revealed. Don't make your client think you are a dufus by asking already answered questions. Or, if you do (I admit, I do it!) -- frame it with things like "Okay, I just want to make double make sure", or "you probably mentioned this and I missed it", etc.

This is not a cardinal sin, making assumptions. But if you are going to make assumptions -- start with the assumption of "know nothing" rather than "know something."

Don't assume they know what the War Room is. Or even the Warrior Forum. Why would you do that, without first checking with Allen?

I can't believe that y'all have been here in this wonderful place and are missing such a basic thing as asking "Who Is The Target Market?" Is it standing in front of the great guru Allen Says that makes your marketing IQ drop -- that you just assume Allen will have provided you with everything you needed to know to do the best possible job?

Now, there was something else I was going to say. I think.

Oh. It's still about this assumption stuff.

And getting the click.

You guys who have entries -- spark some interest in those links you put in this thread. Make everyone who comes to this thread want to click through to see if the rest of your copy is interesting. HEADLINES -- that's kinda what those links are like. They are places to grab attention. And if you want to make sales, you need to start grabbing attention IMMEDIATELY.

So, you're going -- okay Miss Too-Big-For-Your-Britches -- what would you put there?

Glad you asked.

(heh heh heh.)

What If It Should Go Away, And You Never Saw It?

Okay, you smart marketers out there -- educate the rest -- what are the principles I'm using here? What's happening to the reader?

(Why am I asking so many questions ?)

Oh, and a subhead....but, of course, that wouldn't be part of the link.

But it certainly can be part of the post that contains the link:

"Few Talk About It, Keeping It Their Close-To-The-Vest Secret Of Success"

Now, I don't claim these are star quality. These are just some of the first things that popped into my mind.

I'm kinda involved in some other copywriting projects, so, with due respect to my clients -- even though I'd love to enter here -- I don't know whether I'll have the time.

But, because of my love of the forum, and my love of you guys, and because, well, I can't stop the "copy critique" part of me -- I'm offering these thoughts for your consumption with the hope that it will raise the thinking on the contest.

And if Allen wants to send me a 4-figure check just as thanks, I certainly won't object. LOL.

Live JoyFully!

Judy

PS -- too funny. I just realized I've removed all the copywriting links, and links to my copy critique wso, from my signature...LOL. Script installations are a relaxing, and different, sort of challenge. And I've got enough writing on my plate at the moment.


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Old 10-06-2009, 12:38 PM   #61
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Here's my attempt:

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Dearest Allen,

I've been inspired to ask a question or 3.

Who is the target market for this ad? Will it be shown on the Forum here to members who have not converted or is this for the public in general? Or both?

Can I submit more than one entry? I realize revisions can be made, but wanted to know if more than one entry is also allowed as I am unclear on that.

Is this for users with high speed internet access? Or will you be looking to make this friendly to the dial up crowd?

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Old 10-06-2009, 01:00 PM   #63
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Discover your Hidden Talent And Make A Full Time Living Doing What You Love

Something I slapped together really quick... (And by "slapped together", I mean I didn't get to put 40 hours of work into it...)

First copywriting contest I've ever been interested enough to enter.

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errr - I wrote mine as if it was you selling it. Not sure if it needs to be worded from us. I thought you'd be using it in the end as your own. Let me know if not and I'll revise it.

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Old 10-06-2009, 01:13 PM   #65
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Okay thought I would have a quick go

war room ad

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Default Re: CONTEST - $3000, $2000 & $1000 Winners...UPDATED!

I updated mine to version 2.0

!! The Battalion of Internet Entrepreneurs !!

Good Luck everyone! I'm not really a copywriter - more of a designer, but the contest is really tempting!

May god bless us all! Cheers guys!

Winner has to buy beers for everyone who participated!
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Okay, version one of my initial trial!

"One Day in This Forum Could Make You Rich!"

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Old 10-06-2009, 01:59 PM   #68
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What a fun contest idea, thanks for the opportunity. I couldn't resist and had to make up an entry too.




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Default Re: CONTEST - $3000, $2000 & $1000 Winners...UPDATED!

Well that about sums it up.

"If this doesn't upset anyone, I'm not trying hard enough...I'll apologize later"

If I don't win something I'm... not going to b!tch about it. I've made a crap ton of money from the forum already.
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Default Re: CONTEST - $3000, $2000 & $1000 Winners...UPDATED!

One of the more interesting things about this contest—aside from the extremely generous prizes (Thanks, Allen)—is the ability to not only see your competition but to read their entries.

This fairly unique situation can be a two-edged sword.

While it's great to know exactly what your competition is doing there may be a tendency to think, "That's OK, but I can do it better", and then trying to "one-up" some other person's work. Or, in a slightly better case scenario, be inadvertently influenced by another submission.

Having read only one submission in the test forum before deciding it was a bad idea I don't know if "thanks" are enabled. If they are and are being used that may also jaundice your view.

So, as difficult as it will be, if I enter, I won't be doing—this one time only—competitive research.

Just a couple things that occurred to me...

Use them as you see fit,

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Default Re: CONTEST - $3000, $2000 & $1000 Winners...UPDATED!

Here is mine:

My Entry
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Default Re: CONTEST - $3000, $2000 & $1000 Winners...UPDATED!

Wow, there are a lot of creative posts. Popular Contest!

Here is my entry..

IT IS YOUR RIGHT (and obligation) to..


Omg, I don't know how to make a decent link. Maybe because I haven't made enough posts?

Anyway,
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What is the deadline for entries? I think I'll write one.

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No definitive deadline, just whenever Allen finds 3 he wants to go with.

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Goats and the War Room - A True Story

Quite sure it won't win, but funny, tho!

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Default Re: CONTEST - $3000, $2000 & $1000 Winners...UPDATED!

Nice contest Allen. Love marketing challenges!!

You're the man!!

Will post my entry tomorrow since i need to get out to do it.

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We All Have Dreams

I gave it a shot, just wanted to be a part of it really Visually not too appealing(not really my forte ) but I enjoyed it anyway
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Thank you, sir!

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Default Re: CONTEST - $3000, $2000 & $1000 Winners...UPDATED!

Ok, just updated again even though I'm waiting for answers on the other questions. Should I nudge when ever I update? What is the best procedure in all of this? a "Last updated" edit in bright colors in my original post so this thread does not turn into a forum of it's own?

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Hi Allen

Here's my entry.

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Ok, I'm in:
here's my take on it:

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Old 10-06-2009, 07:05 PM   #83
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Just found this post, love the idea! I know you said there was no hard and fast deadline, however before I throw something together, can you give us an idea how close that fuzzy deadline is please? Cheers ;-)

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Quite sure it won't win, but funny, tho!
Dog gone it, T&P, You caused me to violate my, obviously not-too-firm, pledge not to look at the referenced posts.

Also, bringing a scene-stealing kid onto the stage isn't playing fair.

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Old 10-06-2009, 07:55 PM   #85
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We Want YOU To Join the War Room...

Still playing with it, but this is my entry.

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Old 10-06-2009, 08:00 PM   #86
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Hi Allen

My Entry. Some Secrets About Warriors That Even You Do Not Know
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Old 10-06-2009, 08:09 PM   #87
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got a go at it too:

Why don't you have the key?
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Hey cool contest, check me out:

Over 100 Years of Experience on One Page...
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It looks like some copywriters are giving it a go. Ouch!

Here's my entry:

The "War Room" - The Place Where You'll Learn How To Make 100s of 1000s of Dollars!!!

Not a professional copy, but I believe that it'll perform well if tested.

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What a great contest...

I just threw this one up...hopefully it makes sense.

http://www.warriorforum.com/test-for...ml#post1253259

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Old 10-06-2009, 09:17 PM   #91
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Allen,

Thanks for the contest -- this is fun!

Here's my entry

Why I Joined the War Room... And Why You Should, Too

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Old 10-06-2009, 09:19 PM   #92
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I am (like MANY others?!) reading ALL entries.

Why?

To find copywriters whom I may want to work with on my projects!

Hope you're all seeing that potential!

All success
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was a way of saying "Thank you" to the forum for all I've got from it )

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Old 10-06-2009, 09:59 PM   #93
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Thank you Allen,

Have a look...
Your Struggle Making Money With Internet Marketing Ends Today!

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Old 10-06-2009, 10:15 PM   #94
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Allen,

Thanks for the opportunity! Here is my entry:

War Room Review: One Simple Room Can Change Your Life

Thanks again!

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Old 10-06-2009, 10:45 PM   #95
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Thanks Allen for this contest

here's mine

Don't Click This Offer


I'm not a good copywriter but my graphic will speak for it

cheers,
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Old 10-06-2009, 10:52 PM   #96
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I am (like MANY others?!) reading ALL entries.

Why?

To find copywriters whom I may want to work with on my projects!

Hope you're all seeing that potential!

All success
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was a way of saying "Thank you" to the forum for all I've got from it )
And some great Graphics ideas!

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Old 10-06-2009, 10:53 PM   #97
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Here's my entry:

THE KINDSVATER WAR ROOM CONTEST ENTRY

Is there anyone at this point who is not a War Room member?

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Old 10-06-2009, 10:57 PM   #98
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Here's my entry:

THE KINDSVATER WAR ROOM CONTEST ENTRY

Is there anyone at this point who is not a War Room member?
Well, people who take on this contest should became a War Room Member first! how can they offer a review but never seen war room

just my IMHO

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Old 10-06-2009, 11:04 PM   #99
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Alright, this took a lot more work than I thought it would, all I gotta say is kudos to you copywriters, your's is a difficult craft...

Allen Says Gives Away Cash To Anyone Willing To Join The War Room!

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Old 10-06-2009, 11:06 PM   #100
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I do see a couple entries by people who are not War Room members. Presumably, they'll fix that faux pas in short order.

How come it doesn't say War Room Member under "Admin"? I suppose we can let that slide for now.

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