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Old 10-15-2009, 01:11 PM   #201
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The Winners Are:

1st Place Wins: $3000 [Brian Kindsvater]
2nd Place Wins: $2000 [John Rogers]
3rd Place Wins: $1000 [Rod Cortez]
Unannounced 4th Place Wins: $1000 [avenuegirl]

Winners please PM me your paypal emails :-)

This was VERY hard. There were quite a few that I really liked and that could have been in here. I don't like choosing things like this but I managed to do it without pawning it off on Bryan this time :-)

CONGRATS Brian, John, Rod, & Jill!!!

Those are some great submissions.

And now you can say that Allen Says paid you $1k, $2k, or $3k for your copy writing skills.

I look forward to seeing who wins the world title belt and the $5,000 bounty. GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU!!!

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Old 10-15-2009, 01:17 PM   #202
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Nice one Allen, it was a pleasure looking at all the entries. It would be cool if you'd hold more contests like this, doing something different next time.

Congrats to all that won. Well done.

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Old 10-15-2009, 01:35 PM   #203
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Kudos to all the winners! Great contest Allen!!



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Thanks for the post Ray.

It's a valuable lesson I'll be sharing with my teenage daughter later today when she gets home from school.

This was a once in a blue moon, feather-in-the-cap, promotional opportunity for many copywriters who need this type of accolade to put food on the table.

But an irrational fear of not winning kept you, and probably others, from even trying.

You can't win if you don't try. You can't even get better.
Well put Brian...and many of the "expert" copywriters that didn't bother could have done with the practice.



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Old 10-15-2009, 01:41 PM   #205
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Congrats to all of the winners! (Jill, I just knew you'd be in there!) It was fun participating and fun watching all of the entries come in. Thanks Allen for offering this contest, it gave me a chance to test my fledgling copywriting skills a bit.

Cheers, everybody!

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Old 10-15-2009, 02:40 PM   #207
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Congratulations to the War Room Contest winners!

1st Place Wins: $3000 [Brian Kindsvater]
2nd Place Wins: $2000 [John Rogers]
3rd Place Wins: $1000 [Rod Cortez]
Unannounced 4th Place Wins: $1000 [avenuegirl]

And great work by all contestants - interesting and inspirational.

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I guess now we can't use the alibi that we can't write a sales copy. These winners are ordinary warriors too. Though by looking at Brian's work I can tell that he did gave it some thought and effort..but then that's just my opinion

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Old 10-15-2009, 04:04 PM   #209
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Omar:

Several hours of thought and work went into the entry. More could have been spent, but I didn't know when the deadline was.

There were a lot of entries where someone made a post essentially saying: OK, here's my 'try' - something I slapped together in the last 15 minutes. Every time I saw that lack of confidence I knew - even before reading the entry - that it was an entry I had a really good chance of bettering.

It was a few hours of work with no guaranteed monetary return. But I suppose I'm a 'true believer.' I've bought everything Allen has created - and still periodically reread what he wrote many years ago. I firmly believe this is the best marketing forum anywhere and if people spent less time buying WSOs and more time actually applying the wealth of information that is here, like me they could essentially be retired and only work when and if they want to. Perhaps some of that came through in the marketing entry, and hopefully it will bring more valuable contributors to the WF and the War Room.

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Old 10-15-2009, 04:26 PM   #210
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How did I not win with this puppy?

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Hahaha congrats to the winners.... very interesting to see who comes out first with the split test!

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How did I not win with this puppy?

"How I Made A Whopping $5019.34 in LESS Than 4 Weeks... With The Help Of This *SECRET* Group..."

Hahaha congrats to the winners.... very interesting to see who comes out first with the split test!

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FTC nonsense. It would have required a little too much editing. A couple of the ones that did win will also require some editing.

If not for that you definitely might have been in there...and the design of your entry was great! Exactly what I was hoping for as far as design & layout goes.

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Congratulations to all the winners and the entrants!

This was a great contest and I had fun entering my comic (I needed a break from "real" copywriting anyway!) I hope you do more contests in the future Allen!

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Old 10-15-2009, 05:08 PM   #213
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HUGE congrats to all the winners!

Hats off to everyone who put in an entry.

And a big thank you to Allen for the great contest and generosity.

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Old 10-15-2009, 05:21 PM   #214
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The Winners Are:

1st Place Wins: $3000 [Brian Kindsvater]
2nd Place Wins: $2000 [John Rogers]
3rd Place Wins: $1000 [Rod Cortez]
Unannounced 4th Place Wins: $1000 [avenuegirl]

Winners please PM me your paypal emails :-)
If any of you need a Paypal email, I'm sure I could dig one up around here some place

Seriously...Congratulations Lady and Gentlemen! You each are quite talented. Enjoy!

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Old 10-15-2009, 06:47 PM   #215
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Congrats to the winners. Truly a well deserved win for all.

avenuegirl - damn! Your efforts were a perfect example of true "get-up and go" spirit. Keep rockin'

I feel that every entry was a winner here. Most entries had that "just do it" call to action. All the particpants reflected this attitude. The 'what the hell, i'm may be up against some stiff competition but hey I can do this". For those still sitting on the fence, man go back and read these entries. If they aren't enough to convince you then ....well...um...hmmm??? It's got me beat!

The underlying lessons learned here are gems within themselves. Here's some things to think about.

* What did Allen get out of this? Some damn good copy for a start. Many, many non WarRoom Members eyes reading the entries ( I wonder how many signs ups there were over the last few days) and how many more to come through the threads let alone the split tests.

* a perfect well executed contest, one that you could use in your forum.

* The content that will be picked up from these and bring more visitors into the Warrior Forum.

* Allen didn't disclose a time frame. He could've closed it at anytime. Which he did. So it brought about a sense of urgency, that get up and go 'push' to get off your ass and get that entry in.

* Exposure

The list goes on an on....

Anyway congrats once again to winners and entrants. Allen...thank you..you never cease to amaze me!


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Old 10-15-2009, 06:59 PM   #216
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What does this say about the Warrior copywriters?

No "copywriter" (popular posters to the copywriting section
of the forum) won this competition.

Maybe, like me, they stayed out of the competition because
it would be too embarrassing to lose.

CONGRATS to all the winners!

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That hasn't gone without notice. John Rogers and I were discussing that earlier this morning. I have privately made my prediction of the winner, and the reason why. Not too surprisingly, it's the person who "appears to" have taken some of my advice. I don't know whether they actually did or not -- but it certainly jumps over some of the hurdles I mentioned earlier in the thread.

THAT SAID -- and for the edification of those who are less aware of the games that can be played in terms of marketing and in terms of statistics -- depending upon the context (and the pre-selling) -- any letter could probably win.

It's not about the salesletter alone, but about the entire context of the campaign.

I'm in great admiration of the winners -- who, by my lights, must have put in some good amount of time writing their pages. Congratulations.

Live JoyFully!

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PS -- I keep promising myself that I will enter these contests. Some great things have happened to some of the people I know who have entered -- and won -- copywriting contests. Vin Montello comes to mind. Unfortunately, I was already behind the 8 ball because of server issues stemming back a few months. Hopefully, I'll have more opportunity.

PPS -- The #1 thing that I think was notable to me among the winners, especially, and less so among the losers were strong and consistent and clear Calls To Action. In case y'all didn't pick up on that earlier. When you totally believe in a product, and believe it really will be beneficial to others, it's not hard to ask for action. In fact, it creates a disharmonic in you if you don't.

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Judy:

Very interesting, but I never saw your post on page 2 until now.

If you want to know, the title THE KINDSVATER WAR ROOM CONTEST ENTRY was intentionally done to (1) draw attention, (2) be different from other entries, and (3) denote confidence. Not sure if that is what is what you are referring to.

And, as you've seen, I did make an effort to introduce Allen Says and the Warrior Forum assuming a lack of knowledge by the reader. Heck, a lot of current Warriors seem to not know who 'Admin' is and are often disrespectful as a result.

Not that I'm much more knowledgeable - I didn't even know there was a preexisting War Room ad until after I submitted my entry. Undoubtedly, Allen will add his Guarantee at the end - an important marketing tool I couldn't include without knowing it existed.

As an aside, when I was new to the forum I went back into the archives (now the archived archives?) and read EVERY post Allen had written. Took a while, but it was well worth it.

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Judy:

Very interesting, but I never saw your post on page 2 until now.

If you want to know, the title THE KINDSVATER WAR ROOM CONTEST ENTRY was intentionally done to (1) draw attention, (2) be different from other entries, and (3) denote confidence. Not sure if that is what is what you are referring to.
Actually, that wasn't quite what I was thinking of -- but THANKS for the response. I LOVE to hear what's behind folks' thinking.

(I think I wrote another post in here somewhere, where I also screamed that "ATTENTION IS GOD." Think after page 2.)

I loved the evidence you mined to put in your letter. Just awesome. Not sure if you practice law any more, but when you have or do, you must be one h*** of a lawyer. You could write a really useful WSO about how you go about gathering evidence -- or even how you gathered evidence for this contest. Or let me interview you

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And, as you've seen, I did make an effort to introduce Allen Says and the Warrior Forum assuming a lack of knowledge by the reader. Heck, a lot of current Warriors seem to not know who 'Admin' is and are often disrespectful as a result.
ahhh...I probably have tripped over that particular road bump. Of being unintentionally disrespectful of Allen. I apologize, Allen. Just slap me around a few times and send me to my room.

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Not that I'm much more knowledgeable - I didn't even know there was a preexisting War Room ad until after I submitted my entry. Undoubtedly, Allen will add his Guarantee at the end - an important marketing tool I couldn't include without knowing it existed.

As an aside, when I was new to the forum I went back into the archives (now the archived archives?) and read EVERY post Allen had written. Took a while, but it was well worth it.
Brian -- I'm thrilled that you are once again an active, contributing member of the forum. You were missed. Hmmm....yah, going thru all those past posts of Allens.

There's one "post" of his I would love to have, which is Allen's explanation for the copy he used for the "marketing to the herd" forum. Along with the copy. I sooooo miss that forum. It wasn't active, but man, there was some pure gold in there. (Hint, Allen...about that one post, anyway...or the thread?)

Live JoyFully!

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Congrats guys!

And good luck for round 2

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It also kind of helps that Vin really is a wonderful writer...



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Yo Avenue Girl, I'm really happy for you...I'm going to let you finish...but Gary Halbert had one of the best ads of all time...one of the best of all time!
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Congrats to the winners! There were some truly awesome contest entries.
I very, very rarely read long copy, but I read most of these!

Thanks to Admin for the contest. It was a first class education in copywriting.
It showed me that it doesn't take an expensive copywriter to write fantastic copy.
Passion and knowledge of the subject goes along way.

Joining the War Room is on my to do list, but now it has moved near the top of the list.

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Congrats all! It was great reading through the entries. I think I picked up a few things, then again I'm not all that observant... lol.

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Lol... Still amazes me. Heard the local radio station DJ's do the same to him.
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