10 Articles in Ezine Articles But No traffic!

[dagaul101]

Sometimes the ezine articles listings vanish from Google, and they eventually come back after a while

[Chris Kent]

EZA is nearly finished as far as getting instant SE traffic is concerned.

Most niches, you may get a trickle for a few days. Weight loss, you will get next to nothing. However, there are some "keyword diverse" niches that will still reward you.

Only downside is volume, each article will bring in only perhaps one visitor per day to your offer. But at least it is sustainable, so you can write 50 articles and get 50 visitors per day for a long, long time.

My advice to you is to stop and think for a moment - what if EZA did not exist? What would you do? I am re-evaluating my own businesses like this and have now turned to new traffic sources:

- Twitter
- Forums
- Guest blogging
- Making products (so others can worry about the traffic and not me)

[Greg Wildermuth]

klinvie,

I know it's been said already, but just write more and more and more.. Go crazy writing and submitting, because it's totally a numbers game.

EZA still gets me the most traffic of any article directory, and I find my articles for my keyword on the front page of Google still.

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by Chris Kent

EZA is nearly finished as far as getting instant SE traffic is concerned.

For the record, that isn't quite my experience (though I do hear you), but more relevantly, some of us making plenty of money through EZA aren't using it primarily for SE traffic anyway, you know?

Originally Posted by Chris Kent

My advice to you is to stop and think for a moment - what if EZA did not exist? What would you do?

Well, yes ... it's never a good idea to be totally dependent on any third-party service. I like to think that if EZA, or even Google, disappeared tomorrow, I'd still be able to make a living without great problems. But the reality of the situation is that EZA does still exist, and those of us using it as an article directory (rather than expecting and depending on traffic from it, I mean) are honestly not complaining at all.

Without wanting to detract in any way from the good sense of your post, Chris, I'm "just saying".

[jafris]

So what am I doing wrong? How do I check the amount of searches each keyword have in google? do i place the keyword inside the " " to find out the non competitive keywords?

thanks

Try this tool from Googl Adword Keyword Tools

https://adwords.google.com/o/Targeti...AS#search.none


It'll help you determine the total search volume on the combination of keywords in your niche area, even the amount of money people are willing to pay to Google to buy those words.

Suggest you ensure to enlist the top 12 keywords by search volume in your articles, and it should eventually help you to achive high ranking.

Thanks & Regards

[Quenta]

The key for your article to get a lot of traffic is through this equation:

YOUR NICHE + LATEST PRODUCT TREND + REVIEW = TRAFFIC

Two of my review articles related to the latest Clickbank products that I have published on Ezine Articles were getting a lot of traffic in just less than a month. The numbers were around 16k and 17k views respectively, and a lot of clicks too.

I guess you try this experiment and see what happens. Don't give up and always be creative and catchy in terms of writing articles or reviews to your niche, and also target keywords with only less competitive pages.

[Louis Raven]

Originally Posted by lamposproject

Ezine Articles were getting a lot of traffic in just less than a month. The numbers were around 16k and 17k views respectively, and a lot of clicks too.

Seriously? wow.

Lou

[iDevSpot]

I do some ezine articles as well, and seem to find the articles in google pretty well.

Be sure that you use enough keywords in your article body as well as the title. (Ezine will let you know if you are are using too many and ask you to re-write).

I find that titles that include " how to" and "tips" go over well and appear in search results, although I cannot be entirely sure that there is any connection there.

Make sure that your article is well worded and well-formatted, and I would also try out articlebase as well.

Good luck!

[alexdigital]

Originally Posted by jafris

Try this tool from Googl Adword Keyword Tools

https://adwords.google.com/o/Targeti...AS#search.none


It'll help you determine the total search volume on the combination of keywords in your niche area, even the amount of money people are willing to pay to Google to buy those words.

Suggest you ensure to enlist the top 12 keywords by search volume in your articles, and it should eventually help you to achive high ranking.

Thanks & Regards

I don't think this is great advice. It's not just search volume your looking for, it's search volume + competition.

I use a neat keyword tool that comes with Niche Profit Classroom that allows you to check the competition on each keyword.

You can do it by hand using SEOQuake but it takes a while. The theory is this:

1) You do need keywords with a good number of searches, however even 500 searches a month is good if you can rank well for the keyword.

2) You should then check the number of results google returns when you do a search on the "phrase match".

Check the numbers against this chart. This gives you the rating of the keyword:



3) Use SEOQuake browser to check the average (add together then divide by the number of sites, usually 10) pagerank of the sites in the top ten.

As a rule here's your chances based on average pagerank:

0 - V.Easy
1 - Easy
2 - Low to Moderate
3 - Moderate
4 - Difficult
5 - Very Difficult.

Hope this helps.

[Tyrus Antas]

If you are going to create backlinks to other people's
web property you might as well post the articles in
your site and create backlinks to YOUR site.

Tyrus

[Alexa Smith]

Please excuse a contentious note, here.

"Tables" like the one above are totally misguided in their entire underlying approach.

And terribly misleading to people without the experience to understand why.

Ask yourself this question: which would you rather compete with, a keyword with 1,000 competing sites of which the whole of the top 10 listings (front page) comprises age-old, high-PR, authority sites each with huge numbers of backlinks from other authority sites, or a keyword with 10,000,000 competing sites of which you can see several pr-0 sites among the top 10, some poor article directory articles, and so on? (Not an uncommon scenario at all!).

The truth is that the number of competing sites has absolutely no relevance at all, and the person who designed that little table just above either doesn't know what he's talking about or is (perhaps more likely) using it as a way to try to sell/promote something aimed at the gullible.

All that matters is the quality of the competition's SEO and how easily you can dislodge/overtake them.

You're competing with only 5 of them anyway (i.e. the top 5 on the first page of SERP's). It matters whether you can dislodge one or more - preferably more - of those 5, so you need to study their SEO in as much detail as you can (it isn't always easy).

Whether those 5 happen to be followed by 995 other sites or 9,999,995 other sites just makes no difference at all.

Originally Posted by Tyrus Antas

If you are going to create backlinks to other people's web property you might as well post the articles in your site and create backlinks to YOUR site.

Indeed so. And that's putting it mildly, actually. There can be a real long-term downside to making backlinks to other people's properties: you can end up in a situation in which article directories permanently outrank your own site for your own keywords!

It depends on the approach you want to take. Do you want to use article directories so that you get traffic from them, or so that you generate traffic (by backlinking) and send it to them, getting only what's left after their AdSense diversions have taken away a proportion?

[MarkSherris]

Generally if you've got good keyword usage then they'll rank well even for higher competition stuff, obviously not really high competition but say 100,000 competing sites you can easily get an EZA to rank for those, I've seen ones way higher too.

Generally if everything is in place such as keywords, good title, not too much competition, approved article :P (sometimes people forget this lol) then you should rank, if not all you need to do is build a few links coming into that article.

You don't need to do any major link building, just write a few articles, put some on directories, and on web2.0 then point a link back to your article, it should pop up higher within a few days

[MarkSherris]

In response to what Alexa Smith has put, I think you are right definitely, but checking competing sites is a good start to understand competition, once you've done that of course you can then dig deeper and see what your actual competition is like on page 1 and what you'll have to do to outrank them :-)

[alexdigital]

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Please excuse a contentious note, here.

"Tables" like the one above are totally misguided in their entire underlying approach.

And terribly misleading to people without the experience to understand why.

Hi Alexa,

The table is by Adam Short of Niche Profit Classroom.

I entirely agree with you, but you ignore my point 3 where I said you have to check the pagerank of the sites on page 1. The table alone is just a start.

It's certainly not the only way, and probably not the best way, to find out how easy it will be to rank for certain keywords, but surely its better than just sorting by search volume as mentioned in the previous post.

Would you like to share how you decide which keywords to target?

-Alex

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by MarkSherris

In response to what Alexa Smith has put, I think you are right definitely, but checking competing sites is a good start to understand competition

Sure - absolutely ... but people should be learning to check the quality of the SEO of the top 5 sites (their competitors), not "how many competing sites there are" - that's total nonsense!!

Originally Posted by alexdigital

The table alone is just a start.

Alex, I'm not having a go at you personally, but the chart is just nonsense. The number of "competing sites" is simply NOT relevant, and an approach that presents a chart with those numbers in columns is misguided and ill-informed, and is in turn misinforming people.

Saying that it's "just a start" doesn't lend it any validity. It has none. Sorry!

[dejurs2000]

Ezines helps me with google ranking, but in terms of sending direct traffic the percentage is quite low. I guess most ppl nowadays just interested in reading the articles without following the links.

[Mission0ps]

I have read some rather strange responses to your post... I would say go back to the basics look at yoru KW selection and get writing .. it's not rocket sciencec and you don't need to hire someone to promote them like i read ... that's just silly.

Look at this blog here to get back on the good foot with your keyword selection and traffic strategy.. look at the SEO or keywords sections.

Hope that helps

[alexdigital]

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Saying that it's "just a start" doesn't lend it any validity. It has none. Sorry!

I guess we'll just have to disagree on that. I'd be interested to find out others views on this. I can't see how the number of competing sites can't be relevant. It makes no sense.

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by alexdigital

I guess we'll just have to disagree on that.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by alexdigital

I can't see how the number of competing sites can't be relevant. It makes no sense.

We're actually talking at cross-purposes, Alex. You're defining "competing sites" as "the number of sites that show up on Google for the keyword". To me, those aren't "competing sites" at all. I'm competing with only the top 5. It makes no difference at all to me whether they're the top 5 out of 1,000 sites or the top 5 out of 10,000,000 sites. Whatever the keyword, I only ever have 5 competitors, because if I can't get a site higher than 6th it isn't worth my time/effort/energy. And that's putting it mildly. I can't make it any clearer than that. Good luck and good wishes ...

[Sandeep Nath]

Originally Posted by klinvie

Hey everyone, didn't mean to be confusing on the thank you post. In post #17 I said thanks but I was away a year or so and after returning I was going through the thread but must have skipped my #17 post. And I can see why that can be confusing.

Sorry about that but just wanted to make sure I thanked everyone for their help.

Klinvie, could you update on the challenges you now have (after a year of eza presence) so we can keep the thread and advice current? Also, if you could share some of the kwds/articles I'd love to delve into specifics.

[JohnMcCabe]

Normally, Alexa and I see so eye to eye on this subject that me posting is a bit redundant.

This time will be an exception.

Her logic vis a vis the number of competitors is spot on. I tend to expand my aim beyond the top 5 for certain keywords, but that's a quibble.

I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion, though, that until a newbie gains the experience to understand when a keyword is too tough or not, some kind of chart or rule is essential. Otherwise, their mental programming goes into an endless loop and they do nothing.

Give them a rule or a chart to follow, and they follow it. It may not be particularly efficient or effective, but it's a place to start and take some action. A place to start gaining the experience that allows more seasoned people to look at the top 5 or 10 and say either 'that's too tough' or 'I can beat that'...

[Mangozoom]

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Agreed.



We're actually talking at cross-purposes, Alex. You're defining "competing sites" as "the number of sites that show up on Google for the keyword". To me, those aren't "competing sites" at all. I'm competing with only the top 5. It makes no difference at all to me whether they're the top 5 out of 1,000 sites or the top 5 out of 10,000,000 sites. Whatever the keyword, I only ever have 5 competitors, because if I can't get a site higher than 6th it isn't worth my time/effort/energy. And that's putting it mildly. I can't make it any clearer than that. Good luck and good wishes ...

Smart way of looking at it Alexa ...

[klinvie]

Wow! so much good stuff here! I'll have to choose now. I see some ideas seem to be pretty popular such as Digg ,stumbleupon, directory of ezines and so forth. Got something to get started with now!

And I must say thanks again to you ALL for your help. I'm not stuck any more!

[lamberw]

Type your name (or your author name) into Google and see if your listings turn up.

Also, what are the keywords you've been targeting. They may be very competitive.

Do you know what KEI is?

[klinvie]

Hi lamposproject,

Could you please explain the "LATEST PRODUCT TREND" part of the formula. When you say trend are you referring to the most popular product within that niche? Or is it something else?

Thanks much.

Originally Posted by lamposproject

The key for your article to get a lot of traffic is through this equation:

YOUR NICHE + LATEST PRODUCT TREND + REVIEW = TRAFFIC

Two of my review articles related to the latest Clickbank products that I have published on Ezine Articles were getting a lot of traffic in just less than a month. The numbers were around 16k and 17k views respectively, and a lot of clicks too.

I guess you try this experiment and see what happens. Don't give up and always be creative and catchy in terms of writing articles or reviews to your niche, and also target keywords with only less competitive pages.

[ej2012]

Traffic Travis helps too in analyzing your competition. It's free, just google it. I completely agree with what's been mentioned in this thread about analyzing your top 5 competition and not rely just on how many sites are competing, I can rank top 5 even if there is 50K-100K in exact match results, it all comes to down to how well the competition has optimized(off/on page) their sites, it's amazing how many sites out there miss the basics, but that turns into a window of opportunity for us.

[Herbert S Richter]

I dont think its the competition. I think its the niche

[klinvie]

Hi Sylvia,

well said. Thanks so much for clearing that up for me. Yes, the post is a bit confusing. I glad to get so much great help on this thread though.

[Azlan]

this is my opinion on using article marketing at ezine.

1. you need to be patient as it needs time. when your article has been approved, you will get some visitors as it will be published on ezine's homepage. but as more and more article get approved, you will no longer be in the ezine. but do not worry as google has already indexed them

2. since you already have 10 articles and you have already targeting 10 keyword, why not try and target more keywords and get more articles out there to ezine. i know there is a lot of work but article marketing is a lot of work.

when i first started, since i am from malaysia, my english writing is not so good and keep getting my articles rejected due to the grammar issue. i take my time, learnt it and now i am able to write, submit and get approved the first time.

once you have some cash, you can always outsource the writing, ir invest back in your business.

well, this is just my experience and hope it helps.

good luck

- azlan

[Slin]

Even better idea?

point those articles to a squeeze page!

That way no matter what, you know that traffic is recurring

[gittar1122]

If your articles are listed in Ezine then use some linkbuilding for them even you can use xRumer for this purpose. As Ezine sites have great value in Google's eye so if you do a little linkbuilding, it will give you impressive results.
Thanks

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by gittar1122

As Ezine sites have great value in Google's eye so if you do a little linkbuilding, it will give you impressive results.

Maybe even nearly as impressive, in the long run, as if you did the backlinking to your own site, rather than to somebody else's ... and use article directories to get traffic from them rather than sending traffic you're generating to them.

If you build backlinks to EZA's copies of your articles rather than to your own, then EZA will always outrank your own site for your own keywords. A funny way to try and build a business.

[jitterbug978]

I for one would never do *much* link building to an article site when I could rank my own properties and not have to worry about click throughs or my article being taken down.

I'm not totally against it, but many times it will pay off in the long run to have your own page sitting in that high ranking position.

[gittar1122]

Agreed

A typical article distribution involves submitting to around 1-5k worth of article directories and E-zines. Any time you submit the same piece of content to that many sites it creates unnecessary competition. This is especially true if your site is new. The article directories and ezines are old, your site is new. So they win.

The first thing the article directory owners did of course was to edit the articles and take out the links to the authors websites and throw in their own affiliate links.

Originally Posted by jitterbug978

I for one would never do *much* link building to an article site when I could rank my own properties and not have to worry about click throughs or my article being taken down.

I'm not totally against it, but many times it will pay off in the long run to have your own page sitting in that high ranking position.

Maybe even nearly as impressive, in the long run, as if you did the backlinking to your own site, rather than to somebody else's ... and use article directories to get traffic from them rather than sending traffic you're generating to them.

If you build backlinks to EZA's copies of your articles rather than to your own, then EZA will always outrank your own site for your own keywords. A funny way to try and build a business.

[fondi]

Exactly like the others already said. Make your articles unique, make them special. And I don't mean unique only in the wording to pass copyscrape. I mean content. If your conpetitors are writing about "pink cat sweaters", write about "pink cat sweaters as wedding present" or whatever ive them a unique twist, show google something they don't have already. Search in ezinearticles.com for your keyword before you write about it. See how many other articles there are already for this exact keyword. If you already got 2000 people writing the same stuff about the same thing, neither google nor ezinearticles are gonna wanna show yours, too. There is no news anymore. They already got that covered.

So, be creatie! Be special! You can do it

[genietoast]

Consider creating an articles and submitting them to doc sharing sites like Docstoc or Scribd. Those sites tend to have a very high PR.

It'll be better if you can convert your article to a PDF first with places like Youconvertit.com before submitting.

[Slin]

Just wanted to say that backlinking with xrumer is way powerful though.

Those little backlinks won't work well on a newer site, so piggy backing off of say ezines, blasting it with an xrumer blast, and then collecting the profit, is a great way for quick results.

[kenny5]

It depends on the niche and how competitive it is. Look at the competing pages and their page rank and back links. This will give you a good idea of how hard it will be to rank your articles.

[karenloye]

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

I don't mind it at all, as long I'm doing it just for something "extra" - obviously after publishing it myself, and having it indexed on my own site(s).

But in the case of EZA, for me, the "something extra" can be pretty good, too: by offering my already-published work as "ezine articles" (or "website articles") I get a lot of syndication out of it. My articles end up on high-PR, context-relevant authority sites in front of other people's targeted audiences, and the gradual increasing flow of high quality backlinks, traffic, opt-ins and sales I get from it helps my business to build up residual income from work already done.

For me, that's what "article marketing" is.



So do I.

And after that, I want it to go to EZA and eventually get widely syndicated from there.



I look at it differently: I want my best work to go to EZA (after being indexed on my own sites, of course) because that's the work that webmasters and ezine/newsletter compilers are most willing to syndicate - and for me, that's where the money is.

EXCELLENT overview of this highly misunderstood topic! Thanks for sharing some extremely valuable insights on a topic that is flooded with "advice" and opinions that are often completely inaccurate.

[dsbusiness23]

I am a trial member of niche profit classroom. I have been following exactly what they have said with writing articles and everything for the 21 day traffic blueprint, I am on day 7 but still haven't seen much traffic to my website. I wonder what I'm doing wrong, any advice? Oh and by the way 1 article is about to be published on Ezine, the others are in review. I am ranked high on Suite101 and several others, but still hardly any traffic

[alexdigital]

Originally Posted by dsbusiness23

I am a trial member of niche profit classroom. I have been following exactly what they have said with writing articles and everything for the 21 day traffic blueprint, I am on day 7 but still haven't seen much traffic to my website. I wonder what I'm doing wrong, any advice? Oh and by the way 1 article is about to be published on Ezine, the others are in review. I am ranked high on Suite101 and several others, but still hardly any traffic

Stick with it. You need to do the full 21 days though. I've got all my articles approved on Ezine and i'm in the sucky Registry Cleaner Niche...

I've getting traffic and sales, however you need to be patient. It doesn't happen over night!

P.S. I just looked at your site. Why didn't you use niche profit press? I think it would look better than what you have.

[WillR]

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Please excuse a contentious note, here.

"Tables" like the one above are totally misguided in their entire underlying approach.

And terribly misleading to people without the experience to understand why.

If I hear one more person say check your 'competition' in Google I think I will scream. At least someone else here understands the game. This is what I wrote on the exact same topic in another thread a day or so ago:

"Contrary to what most people seem to think, that little number at the top of Google does not tell you your competition. That is simply the number of other pages on Google that have that same keyword mentioned at least once on their page.

The truth is, a keyword that shows 267 million other results can be just as easy, if not easier, to rank for than a keyword with only 4 million other results. The major factor is what SEO optimization, if any, do all these other pages have. You will find the large majority of pages simply have that word mentioned once within content on the page. This is hardly competition.

The real way to find your competition is to look at the top 10-20 results for a keyword. Look at their Google page rank, the number of incoming links, whether or not they have the keyword in their title tag, and whether or not they have the keyword in the domain. Once you look for those things you will see more clearly what you are up against."

[Gracey]

I have the same problem with some of my articles I have some for over 6 months and I cant see the traffic coming from them.

[NateRivers]

Yeah article marketing is a mind-numbing writing and numbers game. I could have written a few novels with the number of words I've typed into my keyboard.

[cnrimgr1]

Originally Posted by Matthew Olson

When I first started article marketing it was not unusual to submit an article to EZA and have it rise to the top of Google without any extra work.

I'm pretty sure those days are over...

As James mentioned earlier, you're going to have to create backlinks to your articles if you want them to rank high in the search engines.

This means at the VERY LEAST social bookmarking your articles. Depending on your keyword phrase you may want to build some high PR backlinks to your articles as well.

Now this may seem like a lot of extra work, but the upside is you can rank well for keywords with much higher competition. If you're going to go this route, I would suggest targeting keywords that are "buyer" type keywords to ensure that your hard work pays off.

Here is a free WSO that does a good job of covering the exact details of this process:

Article Marketing 102

Good luck!

Matt

It all depends on the niche too. I have articles that are on tiny tiny tiny niches that every single one is on the first three pages with no backlinking. Also certain categories that don't get a lot of submission with give you a backlink in the recent submits in that category section as well.

The trick is to target buying keywords, product names, etc. I have one article that has 150 views and three sales. That is one article targeting a buying keyword. I only use free sites, well mostly, so article marketing works you just got to get the hang of it.

[pnisbet]

Originally Posted by tpw

Keywords in your titles only serve to put you into the line of sight of the people you want to read your articles...

BUT THIS IS NOT ENOUGH...

Your Title must be written in a way as to ATTRACT THE READER to your article...

I couldn't agree more tpw. There is a great deal more to article marketing and attracting traffic than just writing an article full of keywords. As an article ghostwriter I get excellent results for myself and my customers. Not only must you use the keyword:

a) In the title - close to the beginning of the title,
b) In the first paragraph (in fact first 100 characters),
c) In the final paragraph, and
d) Sparingly in the body of the article (KD no more than ~1%),

but it must also be well written and informative, offering good information on the topic with the final paragraph leading into the resource which itself should attract the click.

Writing naturally will achieve this: if you attract readers you will also generally (but not always) attract search engine spiders and perhaps get a good listing.

Keep in mind that, regarding search engine listings, you are competing not only with other articles, but also with web pages, blog pages and so on. It takes a special article to get listed on Page #1 of Google.

Re PageRank, you only get a share of the PR of the page on which your article is listed. This is frequently zero, even in EZA. So it's not PR as such you should focus on, but back-links that will improve your SERPs. PR is a different algorithm that reflects a page's popularity, but is not the only benefit you get.

I submit my articles to as many article directories and ezines as possible. True, only one will end up being listed on Google, but the others still offer links and the potential of readers' clicks.

[moneymakerz]

Build backlinks back to your article using keywords as anchortext for which you want your article to rank.............
One tip is to use free sites like blogger and hubpages. Take your original article and spin it. Then post it on these free sites.
Do not worry about duplicate content
Alternatively you can automate the process by using SEnuke