10 Articles in Ezine Articles But No traffic!

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Hi everyone,

I have been had 10 article listed at ezine articles but for some reason I'm not finding my articles when I type in the keyword. At first I was using keywords that were too competitive but now i choose keywords that's gets about 1000 to 6,000 seaches and still my article do not show up.

Are these search results still to high?

My articles has been in the directories for months now but I cannot find them at all when I type the keyword into Google. Have anyone had this problem?
#articles #ezine #traffic
  • Profile picture of the author chargers
    It depends totally upon the niche you select. but You will get at least minimum traffic, are you?
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  • Profile picture of the author LegitBlogger
    This is not a very common problem, especially if you use
    the right keywords in your titles/headings. If nothing the
    articles are supposed to be indexed at least, but you
    said you can't find any of them in the search engines
    when you type in the keywords?

    That's obviously why they aren't getting any visits.

    But do you find any other EzineArticles articles for
    the keyword? If yes, then someone else's article(s)
    is ranking for the keywords you want to rank for.

    I suggest you build some backlinks to the articles, using
    the keywords you are targeting, and see how it goes.
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    • Profile picture of the author klinvie
      yes, i can't find any of them but as you said I DO see other articles which explains as you said must be ranking higher. Yes it does seem they are indexed and I'm using the keywords in the title and throughout the article.

      So what am I doing wrong? How do I check the amount of searches each keyword have in google? do i place the keyword inside the " " to find out the non competitive keywords?

      thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author clint48
        Originally Posted by klinvie View Post

        yes, i can't find any of them but as you said I DO see other articles which explains as you said must be ranking higher. Yes it does seem they are indexed and I'm using the keywords in the title and throughout the article.

        So what am I doing wrong? How do I check the amount of searches each keyword have in google? do i place the keyword inside the " " to find out the non competitive keywords?

        thanks
        Yes put your keyword phrase/title in quotes and that will tell you the amount of competition you have for that key word phrase/title. Then you should check the 10 sites listed on that page and see how many back links they have to their site. If most of the sites have 1,000's of back links you might want to try a different keyword phrase/title.
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      • Profile picture of the author jafris

        So what am I doing wrong? How do I check the amount of searches each keyword have in google? do i place the keyword inside the " " to find out the non competitive keywords?

        thanks
        Try this tool from Googl Adword Keyword Tools

        https://adwords.google.com/o/Targeti...AS#search.none


        It'll help you determine the total search volume on the combination of keywords in your niche area, even the amount of money people are willing to pay to Google to buy those words.

        Suggest you ensure to enlist the top 12 keywords by search volume in your articles, and it should eventually help you to achive high ranking.

        Thanks & Regards
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        • Profile picture of the author alexdigital
          Originally Posted by jafris View Post

          Try this tool from Googl Adword Keyword Tools

          https://adwords.google.com/o/Targeti...AS#search.none


          It'll help you determine the total search volume on the combination of keywords in your niche area, even the amount of money people are willing to pay to Google to buy those words.

          Suggest you ensure to enlist the top 12 keywords by search volume in your articles, and it should eventually help you to achive high ranking.

          Thanks & Regards
          I don't think this is great advice. It's not just search volume your looking for, it's search volume + competition.

          I use a neat keyword tool that comes with Niche Profit Classroom that allows you to check the competition on each keyword.

          You can do it by hand using SEOQuake but it takes a while. The theory is this:

          1) You do need keywords with a good number of searches, however even 500 searches a month is good if you can rank well for the keyword.

          2) You should then check the number of results google returns when you do a search on the "phrase match".

          Check the numbers against this chart. This gives you the rating of the keyword:



          3) Use SEOQuake browser to check the average (add together then divide by the number of sites, usually 10) pagerank of the sites in the top ten.

          As a rule here's your chances based on average pagerank:

          0 - V.Easy
          1 - Easy
          2 - Low to Moderate
          3 - Moderate
          4 - Difficult
          5 - Very Difficult.

          Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author James Lancaster
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    • Profile picture of the author klinvie
      James,

      could you explain what you mean when you say ping? And when you say getting back links, do you mean I need to connect my articles to more articles or more websites.

      thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Olson
    When I first started article marketing it was not unusual to submit an article to EZA and have it rise to the top of Google without any extra work.

    I'm pretty sure those days are over...

    As James mentioned earlier, you're going to have to create backlinks to your articles if you want them to rank high in the search engines.

    This means at the VERY LEAST social bookmarking your articles. Depending on your keyword phrase you may want to build some high PR backlinks to your articles as well.

    Now this may seem like a lot of extra work, but the upside is you can rank well for keywords with much higher competition. If you're going to go this route, I would suggest targeting keywords that are "buyer" type keywords to ensure that your hard work pays off.

    Here is a free WSO that does a good job of covering the exact details of this process:

    Article Marketing 102

    Good luck!

    Matt
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    • Profile picture of the author klinvie
      Thanks Mathew. This will help greatly!
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    • Profile picture of the author cnrimgr1
      Originally Posted by Matthew Olson View Post

      When I first started article marketing it was not unusual to submit an article to EZA and have it rise to the top of Google without any extra work.

      I'm pretty sure those days are over...

      As James mentioned earlier, you're going to have to create backlinks to your articles if you want them to rank high in the search engines.

      This means at the VERY LEAST social bookmarking your articles. Depending on your keyword phrase you may want to build some high PR backlinks to your articles as well.

      Now this may seem like a lot of extra work, but the upside is you can rank well for keywords with much higher competition. If you're going to go this route, I would suggest targeting keywords that are "buyer" type keywords to ensure that your hard work pays off.

      Here is a free WSO that does a good job of covering the exact details of this process:

      Article Marketing 102

      Good luck!

      Matt
      It all depends on the niche too. I have articles that are on tiny tiny tiny niches that every single one is on the first three pages with no backlinking. Also certain categories that don't get a lot of submission with give you a backlink in the recent submits in that category section as well.

      The trick is to target buying keywords, product names, etc. I have one article that has 150 views and three sales. That is one article targeting a buying keyword. I only use free sites, well mostly, so article marketing works you just got to get the hang of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author John W.G.
    Don't give up, it definitely takes time.

    As mentioned above you should ping them
    and build backlinks to them.

    Build a couple web 2.0 properties and link
    to your articles.

    Another strategy that works great but many
    people don't do that can build some serious
    backlinks is to get your rss feed for all your
    articles and submit it to the rss directories.

    Pm me if you don't know how to do that.

    jg
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    • Profile picture of the author klinvie
      Just sent you a PM John.

      Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author alexdigital
      Originally Posted by John W.G. View Post

      Don't give up, it definitely takes time.

      Another strategy that works great but many
      people don't do that can build some serious
      backlinks is to get your rss feed for all your
      articles and submit it to the rss directories.

      Pm me if you don't know how to do that.

      jg
      RSS Feed directories seems interesting. Do you have a list of good directories you'd like to share?
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    • Profile picture of the author newbie2011
      Hey,

      The World of web must know about your new articles. So keep optimizing your site and use also SM sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author saraward
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    This is unusal i suppose it depends on the keywords im in the affiliate marketing game and my articles all seem to show up. I suppose it could depend on the article density or what you have done with your article.

    did you bookmark them?
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    • Profile picture of the author klinvie
      Yea i think you are right Saraward. I didn't bookmark them. nether did I do any of the other thing everyone has been mentioning. Except I used my keyword in my title and sprinkled the keyword throughout the article.

      Looks like I've been missing a lot of things here.

      It's time to get busy. Thanks much for your help.

      klinvie
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  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    Originally Posted by klinvie View Post

    Hi everyone,

    I have been had 10 article listed at ezine articles but for some reason I'm not finding my articles when I type in the keyword. At first I was using keywords that were too competitive but now i choose keywords that's gets about 1000 to 6,000 seaches and still my article do not show up.

    Are these search results still to high?

    My articles has been in the directories for months now but I cannot find them at all when I type the keyword into Google. Have anyone had this problem?
    You may be targetting keywords that are less competetitive but still missing the mark. You need to dig deeper. HINT: SemRush.com
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  • Profile picture of the author StevenSaliba
    What I recommend you do, is to make a search on Ezinearticles.com for the keyword you want to rank for. If no one else wrote an article with the keyword phrase you want to rank for, you have a good chance of ranking high in the search engines. Try to title your article with the keywords at least 2 times if you can. It will help your SEO efforts.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andie
    Klinvie,
    I'm no guru, but I'm going to recommend checking out the 30 day challenge training, particularly day 10 which focuses on Ezine articles and how to make the most of them, backlinking and kw...IMO, the whole program rocks/is free/explains all things very well..maybe it will help with the dots that aren't connecting for you.
    Can't post links yet, but it is thirtydaychallenge(dot)com/training/2009day10.php

    hope that doesn't get me into trouble!!
    Andie
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  • Profile picture of the author Lambert Klein
    Besides the above, keep submitting more articles with good titles.

    10 is not very many. I have over to 100 in Ezine. Never thought I would a few years ago, but it happened.

    So learn about formating your articles and promoting them. Keep on typing!

    BTW I am one of those two finger typist. A few years ago I couldn't even write one article.

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  • Profile picture of the author klinvie
    Wow!

    thanks everyone for all you help. Have lots to get me going now!

    klinvie
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  • Profile picture of the author Tomwood
    try searching like this allintitle:thetitleofyourarticle this will bring up all pages with this title and your article should appear if it has been indexed.

    This will as least let you know if it has been indexed or not
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepreneurjay
    Are you optimizing your content for the search engines? They should be showing up your chosen keywords if optimized correctly, and no I am not having this problem. Are you sure they have been indexed? Are they fairly new? If they have been out there for a while and you're not seeing them, try optimizing your content more.
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  • Profile picture of the author klinvie
    Thanks everyone for your feedback. It really Helped a lot!
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      klinvie, I'm a little curious...

      Why did you wait over a year to thank everyone?

      Edit: I guess I'm getting a little blind to one-line posts at times. I missed klinvies's TY post (#10) - Thanks, Sylvia.

      Even without that, I want to clarify that my question was simple curiosity - I hadn't seen that before. No hidden meaning at all...
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      • Profile picture of the author oneplusone
        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        klinvie, I'm a little curious...

        Why did you wait over a year to thank everyone?
        That is what I was thinking.

        Maybe he fell asleep for over a year, and just woke up

        The alternative is, that he took the advice from the replies and has come
        back to express his gratitude and love...

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      • Profile picture of the author ShaunAllen
        LMAO. I developed a habit of always looking at the date of the original post. For some reason on this one I didn't do it which is rare. However, this is very weird. I'd also like to know if the tips helped him/her out and they're now living the dream.

        Otherwise, why would you come back and write a one-line thank you post.







        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        klinvie, I'm a little curious...

        Why did you wait over a year to thank everyone?
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      • Profile picture of the author sylviad
        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        klinvie, I'm a little curious...

        Why did you wait over a year to thank everyone?
        Well, John, actually he didn't - check back at post #17.
        Good catch though. I didn't notice how old this thread was until I got to your post #22(?).

        Klinvie...

        I'm still at post #22, so this might already have been said.

        At the start of your thread, you sounded like you are confusing searches with competition. If there are 1000 searches, that has little if anything to do with the actual competition. To find that out, enter the keyword in quotes in Google to find out exactly which competitors are actually working to rank for that keyword.

        If you search the competition without using quotes, you will get results that include any web site that includes your keyword. So if those sites are not using the keyword in the title and meta tags, they aren't your true competition.

        And I agree - 10 articles is not much.

        Keep in mind too, that articles sink down the pages after a week or more. If those articles do not have good back links to them, Google will not see them as being very important. They are important when you first publish them on EA, but it's short lived. It's not that your articles aren't in the results. They are probably way down on page 100 or something.

        To find out if your article is actually in the results, search the article title in quotes and it should come up.

        Hope this helps.

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        • Profile picture of the author klinvie
          Hi Sylvia,

          well said. Thanks so much for clearing that up for me. Yes, the post is a bit confusing. I glad to get so much great help on this thread though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Damz
    the days of ezine Articles are gone,,,,
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  • Profile picture of the author Nicola Lane
    Threads asking how to do Article Marketing come up quite often here - so I have a standard reply - I hope this helps:

    Two brilliant threads to read about article marketing are these:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...marketing.html

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html

    Read them both - all the way through - and take notes.

    For further information I recommend the following directory - It is education in article marketing - a guide book and monthly newsletters - with a directory thrown in! You can read what Warriors think about it here:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...alks-walk.html

    Promote My Articles Article Marketing Service

    also available as a WSO here:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...g-service.html

    This is a really great WSO for people trying to write good preselling articles:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...iors-only.html

    I can also recommend the WSO's from this guy:

    View Profile: Zeus66

    In particular this one - All people interested in article marketing should study this!

    http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-you-need.html

    This guy also has some good stuff - some article marketing some on other things

    View Profile: Steven Wagenheim

    Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mangozoom
    I think your problem is to do with the keywords you are choosing.

    Personally I write thousands of articles and on most my sites get most of my traffic comes this way. As a result I have to work hard at learning how to pick the best keywords.

    So gen up on keyword research

    One little tip is once you have found a keyword, type it into Ezine articles look at the top articles and do a simple math.

    Divide the number of days published by the amount of views. This will tell you wether the keyword is worth going after.

    Once you make a decision it is simply a matter of writing the article in a way that will trump those already listed.

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author sarahberra
    I don't have time to check my ezine articles, but sometimes I go back to them later and find out if they are indexed. I think it usually takes about 2 weeks to a month for these to get indexed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Damz View Post

      the days of ezine Articles are gone,,,,
      Many Warriors making very good (and increasing) livings by using EZA as the mainstay of their article marketing businesses will really be very surprised indeed to hear that.

      Originally Posted by sarahberra View Post

      I think it usually takes about 2 weeks to a month for these to get indexed.
      I think a day is a lot closer, on average, than a month, fortunately.

      Originally Posted by pradiprg View Post

      Now i am wondering the discussion about developing backlinks for article ranking. I feel it is all useless.
      Don't let people put you off, Pradeep. The reality is that "information" on the board here is by no means always true! With absolutely no offense intended to anyone, the resources listed in Nicola's kind post above will be far more informative (and accurate!) for most people's purposes than some of the many other incidental - and wildly inaccurate - comments in this year-old thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author King Shiloh
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    Hey folk,

    Maybe competition has swallowed up your resources. You need to work on your articles. You need to churn out more quality articles with targeted long-tailed keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bradley McK
    I know people can make money doing this, but I just can't get used to the idea of creating good kw rich content and then putting it on somebody elses site. I want truly good content to go on my websites. Maybe barely acceptable articles can go to EZA or goarticles, but that's it for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by brittany_46 View Post

      I just can't get used to the idea of creating good kw rich content and then putting it on somebody elses site.
      I don't mind it at all, as long I'm doing it just for something "extra" - obviously after publishing it myself, and having it indexed on my own site(s).

      But in the case of EZA, for me, the "something extra" can be pretty good, too: by offering my already-published work as "ezine articles" (or "website articles") I get a lot of syndication out of it. My articles end up on high-PR, context-relevant authority sites in front of other people's targeted audiences, and the gradual increasing flow of high quality backlinks, traffic, opt-ins and sales I get from it helps my business to build up residual income from work already done.

      For me, that's what "article marketing" is.

      Originally Posted by brittany_46 View Post

      I want truly good content to go on my websites.
      So do I.

      And after that, I want it to go to EZA and eventually get widely syndicated from there.

      Originally Posted by brittany_46 View Post

      Maybe barely acceptable articles can go to EZA or goarticles, but that's it for me.
      I look at it differently: I want my best work to go to EZA (after being indexed on my own sites, of course) because that's the work that webmasters and ezine/newsletter compilers are most willing to syndicate - and for me, that's where the money is.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bradley McK
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        I don't mind it at all, as long I'm doing it just for something "extra" - obviously after publishing it myself, and having it indexed on my own site(s).

        But in the case of EZA, for me, the "something extra" can be pretty good, too: by offering my already-published work as "ezine articles" (or "website articles") I get a lot of syndication out of it. My articles end up on high-PR, context-relevant authority sites in front of other people's targeted audiences, and the gradual increasing flow of high quality backlinks, traffic, opt-ins and sales I get from it helps my business to build up residual income from work already done.

        For me, that's what "article marketing" is.



        So do I.

        And after that, I want it to go to EZA and eventually get widely syndicated from there.



        I look at it differently: I want my best work to go to EZA (after being indexed on my own sites, of course) because that's the work that webmasters and ezine/newsletter compilers are most willing to syndicate - and for me, that's where the money is.
        Thank You for your thoughtful reply. I think you have changed my perspective about this. A simple thing, but not many posters have mentioned the step of publishing on our own sites first. I post to my site first, naturally, and then if I got around to it I would spin a version for the 2 directories I mentioned. Your steps sound better.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by brittany_46 View Post

          A simple thing, but not many posters have mentioned the step of publishing on our own sites first.
          They don't ... I suspect that quite a lot of people imagine, in spite of occasional threads like this one (which is very good!) that EZA - and other article directories - won't publish content already published on one's own site. In fact, as far as I know, "Buzzle" is the only one that won't.
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      • Profile picture of the author karenloye
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        I don't mind it at all, as long I'm doing it just for something "extra" - obviously after publishing it myself, and having it indexed on my own site(s).

        But in the case of EZA, for me, the "something extra" can be pretty good, too: by offering my already-published work as "ezine articles" (or "website articles") I get a lot of syndication out of it. My articles end up on high-PR, context-relevant authority sites in front of other people's targeted audiences, and the gradual increasing flow of high quality backlinks, traffic, opt-ins and sales I get from it helps my business to build up residual income from work already done.

        For me, that's what "article marketing" is.



        So do I.

        And after that, I want it to go to EZA and eventually get widely syndicated from there.



        I look at it differently: I want my best work to go to EZA (after being indexed on my own sites, of course) because that's the work that webmasters and ezine/newsletter compilers are most willing to syndicate - and for me, that's where the money is.
        EXCELLENT overview of this highly misunderstood topic! Thanks for sharing some extremely valuable insights on a topic that is flooded with "advice" and opinions that are often completely inaccurate.
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  • Profile picture of the author Slin
    Play it as a numbers game, by the end of a month you should have 300 articles in your account (ten a day) I find that usually some of my articles get stuck high on some random longtail keyword that no one even knows about.

    Usually my articles will get random views every few months or so, so by creating a huge number of them you'll continually get large amounts of traffic trickling through.

    A lot of work?

    Yes.

    But it's autopilot profits once it's set up.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by pradiprg View Post

      What a funny thing. Up till now i was reading that article writing and marketing at eZine etc. heps to develop backling. Now i am wondering the discussion about developing backlinks for article ranking.I feel it is all useless.
      One approach to article marketing says to post your articles on directories because they are already regarded as authority sites, and thus have a better chance of ranking quickly. As authority sites, some directories may have more 'juice' to pass along. Which makes the link from your article valuable.

      Some people believe that you can increase that 'link juice' by adding another layer and building links to the articles you posted to build links. Personally, I'd rather spend the time and effort building links to my own online properties.

      One thing to keep in mind is the original purpose of article directories. They were conceived as a central place website owners and ezine publishers could come to find solid content to republish on their sites and in their newsletters. In return for quality content, the author got the resource box with a live link back to the site of their choice (more or less).

      Having their articles published on a variety of content sites built valuable links, as well as putting the content in front of the site owner's visitors.

      Then some bright person got the notion that you could build a lot of backlinks quickly by dumping a bunch of articles on the directories, regardless of quality. The only thing that counted for them is the backlink.

      Couple that with directory owners needing more and more pages to place their own ads (often Adsense), and you have a perfect storm for loading up the directories with crap.
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  • Profile picture of the author klinvie
    Hey everyone, didn't mean to be confusing on the thank you post. In post #17 I said thanks but I was away a year or so and after returning I was going through the thread but must have skipped my #17 post. And I can see why that can be confusing.

    Sorry about that but just wanted to make sure I thanked everyone for their help.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sandeep Nath
      Originally Posted by klinvie View Post

      Hey everyone, didn't mean to be confusing on the thank you post. In post #17 I said thanks but I was away a year or so and after returning I was going through the thread but must have skipped my #17 post. And I can see why that can be confusing.

      Sorry about that but just wanted to make sure I thanked everyone for their help.
      Klinvie, could you update on the challenges you now have (after a year of eza presence) so we can keep the thread and advice current? Also, if you could share some of the kwds/articles I'd love to delve into specifics.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Normally, Alexa and I see so eye to eye on this subject that me posting is a bit redundant.

        This time will be an exception.

        Her logic vis a vis the number of competitors is spot on. I tend to expand my aim beyond the top 5 for certain keywords, but that's a quibble.

        I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion, though, that until a newbie gains the experience to understand when a keyword is too tough or not, some kind of chart or rule is essential. Otherwise, their mental programming goes into an endless loop and they do nothing.

        Give them a rule or a chart to follow, and they follow it. It may not be particularly efficient or effective, but it's a place to start and take some action. A place to start gaining the experience that allows more seasoned people to look at the top 5 or 10 and say either 'that's too tough' or 'I can beat that'...
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  • Profile picture of the author Randy Daugherty
    This means that your articles on ezine is not getting enough traffic so when you try to search for the keyword its not included in the option...
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  • Profile picture of the author neda30
    One of the best ways to get index is getting backlinks from authority sites like Digg, Reddit, or stumbleupon. The way I get indexed is I use websites like social poster and Ping Fm. These sites are free and very easy to use. Everytime you write an article submit them to multiple article directories like ezinearticles, isnare, goarticles, and articlesbase. DO THAT EVERYTIME YOU WRITE AN ARTICLE. Then submit your article url's to Social Poster and Ping Fm. You should start seeing some results. Remember, it takes time when writing articles. I have hundreds of articles being sent to my blog and websites. If you write one article everyday for the next 90 days I'm sure you will get some decent traffic. Its always depends on the topic as well. Hope this helps. Keep writing and never quit.
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  • Profile picture of the author rahulbatra
    Originally Posted by klinvie View Post

    Hi everyone,

    I have been had 10 article listed at ezine articles but for some reason I'm not finding my articles when I type in the keyword. At first I was using keywords that were too competitive but now i choose keywords that's gets about 1000 to 6,000 seaches and still my article do not show up.

    Are these search results still to high?

    My articles has been in the directories for months now but I cannot find them at all when I type the keyword into Google. Have anyone had this problem?
    If your article was published earlier and now you cannot see it, there might be a possibility that they could have deleted your article for some reason.
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    • Profile picture of the author MWZ81
      If you see an Ezine article in the top ten of google does that mean you will be able to create an article with the same keywords and rank for it? NO!

      Odds are that article you are seeing in the top 10 of google is on the most viewed and/or most published ranks in Ezine. Which means that article is going to be linked like crazy through the Ezine site AND people will also publish that article on another site because its obviously popular.

      Get your article backlinks and get it published on other sites and you might get it ranked well.
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      • Profile picture of the author dayanthan
        Some good info on here. I have 7 articles published so far and am pretty new to it all and am trying to find the best way to go about the whole article submission and choosing keywords thing. I am unsure as to how many and often which directories I should submit to as well. Also I find it difficult to build an article around the best keyword but I am getting there. I am not worried how many people are going to visit my site but I want to make sure I am getting some decent backlinks to help me in my SEO efforts. That is the priority for me now.
        I am looking to write at least 100 articles and hopfully more in my niche.
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        • Profile picture of the author Globolstaff24
          Well, I think that you should hire a VA to promote the links of your articles in Ezine. lol.
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          • Profile picture of the author iDevSpot
            I do some ezine articles as well, and seem to find the articles in google pretty well.

            Be sure that you use enough keywords in your article body as well as the title. (Ezine will let you know if you are are using too many and ask you to re-write).

            I find that titles that include " how to" and "tips" go over well and appear in search results, although I cannot be entirely sure that there is any connection there.

            Make sure that your article is well worded and well-formatted, and I would also try out articlebase as well.

            Good luck!
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          • Profile picture of the author genietoast
            Consider creating an articles and submitting them to doc sharing sites like Docstoc or Scribd. Those sites tend to have a very high PR.

            It'll be better if you can convert your article to a PDF first with places like Youconvertit.com before submitting.
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  • Profile picture of the author aaadating
    Ezine's still working for me, I suggest writing more articles but also try writing for very long tail keywords like questions.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Keywords in your titles only serve to put you into the line of sight of the people you want to read your articles...

    BUT THIS IS NOT ENOUGH...

    Your Title must be written in a way as to ATTRACT THE READER to your article...

    It must catch the attention of those browsing the articles and pages available, AND it must appeal to the reader enough, to cause the reader to OPEN YOUR ARTICLE...

    Lame Keyword Titles only get you in the line of sight of potential readers...

    Appealing Titles that also have keywords in them will get you positioned in the search engines too, BUT HERE IS THE DIFFERENCE, Titles that appeal to your prospects are the bait that gets someone to click your Article Title and start reading it...

    Do include keywords in your titles, BUT make darn sure that your title is strong enough to Attract The Click !!!

    It is essential that you do so, for the success of your Article Marketing endeavors...
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    • Profile picture of the author pnisbet
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      Keywords in your titles only serve to put you into the line of sight of the people you want to read your articles...

      BUT THIS IS NOT ENOUGH...

      Your Title must be written in a way as to ATTRACT THE READER to your article...
      I couldn't agree more tpw. There is a great deal more to article marketing and attracting traffic than just writing an article full of keywords. As an article ghostwriter I get excellent results for myself and my customers. Not only must you use the keyword:

      a) In the title - close to the beginning of the title,
      b) In the first paragraph (in fact first 100 characters),
      c) In the final paragraph, and
      d) Sparingly in the body of the article (KD no more than ~1%),

      but it must also be well written and informative, offering good information on the topic with the final paragraph leading into the resource which itself should attract the click.

      Writing naturally will achieve this: if you attract readers you will also generally (but not always) attract search engine spiders and perhaps get a good listing.

      Keep in mind that, regarding search engine listings, you are competing not only with other articles, but also with web pages, blog pages and so on. It takes a special article to get listed on Page #1 of Google.

      Re PageRank, you only get a share of the PR of the page on which your article is listed. This is frequently zero, even in EZA. So it's not PR as such you should focus on, but back-links that will improve your SERPs. PR is a different algorithm that reflects a page's popularity, but is not the only benefit you get.

      I submit my articles to as many article directories and ezines as possible. True, only one will end up being listed on Google, but the others still offer links and the potential of readers' clicks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Louis Raven
    People still use EA?

    EzineArticles can make you £££'s but for me it's just not worth the hassle and time it takes to work with their strict rules.

    For the same amount of effort you can easily outrank EzineArticles for most LONGtail keywords. Don't get me wrong.. a few years back (as mentioned above) you'd put in a 4-word longtail and be straight to the top of Google. Nowadays you'll be lucky to get 18 views in 4 months.

    Louis
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    Sometimes the ezine articles listings vanish from Google, and they eventually come back after a while
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Chris Kent View Post

    EZA is nearly finished as far as getting instant SE traffic is concerned.
    For the record, that isn't quite my experience (though I do hear you), but more relevantly, some of us making plenty of money through EZA aren't using it primarily for SE traffic anyway, you know?

    Originally Posted by Chris Kent View Post

    My advice to you is to stop and think for a moment - what if EZA did not exist? What would you do?
    Well, yes ... it's never a good idea to be totally dependent on any third-party service. I like to think that if EZA, or even Google, disappeared tomorrow, I'd still be able to make a living without great problems. But the reality of the situation is that EZA does still exist, and those of us using it as an article directory (rather than expecting and depending on traffic from it, I mean) are honestly not complaining at all.

    Without wanting to detract in any way from the good sense of your post, Chris, I'm "just saying".
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Q
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    The key for your article to get a lot of traffic is through this equation:

    YOUR NICHE + LATEST PRODUCT TREND + REVIEW = TRAFFIC

    Two of my review articles related to the latest Clickbank products that I have published on Ezine Articles were getting a lot of traffic in just less than a month. The numbers were around 16k and 17k views respectively, and a lot of clicks too.

    I guess you try this experiment and see what happens. Don't give up and always be creative and catchy in terms of writing articles or reviews to your niche, and also target keywords with only less competitive pages.
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    • Profile picture of the author Louis Raven
      Originally Posted by lamposproject View Post

      Ezine Articles were getting a lot of traffic in just less than a month. The numbers were around 16k and 17k views respectively, and a lot of clicks too.
      Seriously? wow.

      Lou
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    • Profile picture of the author klinvie
      Hi lamposproject,

      Could you please explain the "LATEST PRODUCT TREND" part of the formula. When you say trend are you referring to the most popular product within that niche? Or is it something else?

      Thanks much.

      Originally Posted by lamposproject View Post

      The key for your article to get a lot of traffic is through this equation:

      YOUR NICHE + LATEST PRODUCT TREND + REVIEW = TRAFFIC

      Two of my review articles related to the latest Clickbank products that I have published on Ezine Articles were getting a lot of traffic in just less than a month. The numbers were around 16k and 17k views respectively, and a lot of clicks too.

      I guess you try this experiment and see what happens. Don't give up and always be creative and catchy in terms of writing articles or reviews to your niche, and also target keywords with only less competitive pages.
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      • Profile picture of the author ej2012
        Traffic Travis helps too in analyzing your competition. It's free, just google it. I completely agree with what's been mentioned in this thread about analyzing your top 5 competition and not rely just on how many sites are competing, I can rank top 5 even if there is 50K-100K in exact match results, it all comes to down to how well the competition has optimized(off/on page) their sites, it's amazing how many sites out there miss the basics, but that turns into a window of opportunity for us.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tyrus Antas
    If you are going to create backlinks to other people's
    web property you might as well post the articles in
    your site and create backlinks to YOUR site.

    Tyrus
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Please excuse a contentious note, here.

      "Tables" like the one above are totally misguided in their entire underlying approach.

      And terribly misleading to people without the experience to understand why. :rolleyes:

      Ask yourself this question: which would you rather compete with, a keyword with 1,000 competing sites of which the whole of the top 10 listings (front page) comprises age-old, high-PR, authority sites each with huge numbers of backlinks from other authority sites, or a keyword with 10,000,000 competing sites of which you can see several pr-0 sites among the top 10, some poor article directory articles, and so on? (Not an uncommon scenario at all!).

      The truth is that the number of competing sites has absolutely no relevance at all, and the person who designed that little table just above either doesn't know what he's talking about or is (perhaps more likely) using it as a way to try to sell/promote something aimed at the gullible.

      All that matters is the quality of the competition's SEO and how easily you can dislodge/overtake them.

      You're competing with only 5 of them anyway (i.e. the top 5 on the first page of SERP's). It matters whether you can dislodge one or more - preferably more - of those 5, so you need to study their SEO in as much detail as you can (it isn't always easy).

      Whether those 5 happen to be followed by 995 other sites or 9,999,995 other sites just makes no difference at all.


      Originally Posted by Tyrus Antas View Post

      If you are going to create backlinks to other people's web property you might as well post the articles in your site and create backlinks to YOUR site.
      Indeed so. And that's putting it mildly, actually. There can be a real long-term downside to making backlinks to other people's properties: you can end up in a situation in which article directories permanently outrank your own site for your own keywords!

      It depends on the approach you want to take. Do you want to use article directories so that you get traffic from them, or so that you generate traffic (by backlinking) and send it to them, getting only what's left after their AdSense diversions have taken away a proportion? :confused: :p
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      • Profile picture of the author alexdigital
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Please excuse a contentious note, here.

        "Tables" like the one above are totally misguided in their entire underlying approach.

        And terribly misleading to people without the experience to understand why. :rolleyes:
        Hi Alexa,

        The table is by Adam Short of Niche Profit Classroom.

        I entirely agree with you, but you ignore my point 3 where I said you have to check the pagerank of the sites on page 1. The table alone is just a start.

        It's certainly not the only way, and probably not the best way, to find out how easy it will be to rank for certain keywords, but surely its better than just sorting by search volume as mentioned in the previous post.

        Would you like to share how you decide which keywords to target?

        -Alex
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      • Profile picture of the author WillR
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Please excuse a contentious note, here.

        "Tables" like the one above are totally misguided in their entire underlying approach.

        And terribly misleading to people without the experience to understand why. :rolleyes:
        If I hear one more person say check your 'competition' in Google I think I will scream. At least someone else here understands the game. This is what I wrote on the exact same topic in another thread a day or so ago:

        "Contrary to what most people seem to think, that little number at the top of Google does not tell you your competition. That is simply the number of other pages on Google that have that same keyword mentioned at least once on their page.

        The truth is, a keyword that shows 267 million other results can be just as easy, if not easier, to rank for than a keyword with only 4 million other results. The major factor is what SEO optimization, if any, do all these other pages have. You will find the large majority of pages simply have that word mentioned once within content on the page. This is hardly competition.

        The real way to find your competition is to look at the top 10-20 results for a keyword. Look at their Google page rank, the number of incoming links, whether or not they have the keyword in their title tag, and whether or not they have the keyword in the domain. Once you look for those things you will see more clearly what you are up against."
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkSherris
    Generally if you've got good keyword usage then they'll rank well even for higher competition stuff, obviously not really high competition but say 100,000 competing sites you can easily get an EZA to rank for those, I've seen ones way higher too.

    Generally if everything is in place such as keywords, good title, not too much competition, approved article (sometimes people forget this lol) then you should rank, if not all you need to do is build a few links coming into that article.

    You don't need to do any major link building, just write a few articles, put some on directories, and on web2.0 then point a link back to your article, it should pop up higher within a few days
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkSherris
    In response to what Alexa Smith has put, I think you are right definitely, but checking competing sites is a good start to understand competition, once you've done that of course you can then dig deeper and see what your actual competition is like on page 1 and what you'll have to do to outrank them :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by MarkSherris View Post

      In response to what Alexa Smith has put, I think you are right definitely, but checking competing sites is a good start to understand competition
      Sure - absolutely ... but people should be learning to check the quality of the SEO of the top 5 sites (their competitors), not "how many competing sites there are" - that's total nonsense!!

      Originally Posted by alexdigital View Post

      The table alone is just a start.
      Alex, I'm not having a go at you personally, but the chart is just nonsense. The number of "competing sites" is simply NOT relevant, and an approach that presents a chart with those numbers in columns is misguided and ill-informed, and is in turn misinforming people.

      Saying that it's "just a start" doesn't lend it any validity. It has none. Sorry!
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      • Profile picture of the author alexdigital
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post


        Saying that it's "just a start" doesn't lend it any validity. It has none. Sorry!
        I guess we'll just have to disagree on that. I'd be interested to find out others views on this. I can't see how the number of competing sites can't be relevant. It makes no sense.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by alexdigital View Post

          I guess we'll just have to disagree on that.
          Agreed.

          Originally Posted by alexdigital View Post

          I can't see how the number of competing sites can't be relevant. It makes no sense.
          We're actually talking at cross-purposes, Alex. You're defining "competing sites" as "the number of sites that show up on Google for the keyword". To me, those aren't "competing sites" at all. I'm competing with only the top 5. It makes no difference at all to me whether they're the top 5 out of 1,000 sites or the top 5 out of 10,000,000 sites. Whatever the keyword, I only ever have 5 competitors, because if I can't get a site higher than 6th it isn't worth my time/effort/energy. And that's putting it mildly. I can't make it any clearer than that. Good luck and good wishes ...
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          • Profile picture of the author Mangozoom
            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            Agreed.



            We're actually talking at cross-purposes, Alex. You're defining "competing sites" as "the number of sites that show up on Google for the keyword". To me, those aren't "competing sites" at all. I'm competing with only the top 5. It makes no difference at all to me whether they're the top 5 out of 1,000 sites or the top 5 out of 10,000,000 sites. Whatever the keyword, I only ever have 5 competitors, because if I can't get a site higher than 6th it isn't worth my time/effort/energy. And that's putting it mildly. I can't make it any clearer than that. Good luck and good wishes ...
            Smart way of looking at it Alexa ...
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  • Profile picture of the author dejurs2000
    Ezines helps me with google ranking, but in terms of sending direct traffic the percentage is quite low. I guess most ppl nowadays just interested in reading the articles without following the links.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mission0ps
    I have read some rather strange responses to your post... I would say go back to the basics look at yoru KW selection and get writing .. it's not rocket sciencec and you don't need to hire someone to promote them like i read ... that's just silly.

    Look at this blog here to get back on the good foot with your keyword selection and traffic strategy.. look at the SEO or keywords sections.

    Hope that helps
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  • Profile picture of the author klinvie
    Wow! so much good stuff here! I'll have to choose now. I see some ideas seem to be pretty popular such as Digg ,stumbleupon, directory of ezines and so forth. Got something to get started with now!

    And I must say thanks again to you ALL for your help. I'm not stuck any more!
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  • Profile picture of the author lamberw
    Type your name (or your author name) into Google and see if your listings turn up.

    Also, what are the keywords you've been targeting. They may be very competitive.

    Do you know what KEI is?
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  • Profile picture of the author Herbert S Richter
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    I dont think its the competition. I think its the niche
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  • Profile picture of the author Azlan
    this is my opinion on using article marketing at ezine.

    1. you need to be patient as it needs time. when your article has been approved, you will get some visitors as it will be published on ezine's homepage. but as more and more article get approved, you will no longer be in the ezine. but do not worry as google has already indexed them

    2. since you already have 10 articles and you have already targeting 10 keyword, why not try and target more keywords and get more articles out there to ezine. i know there is a lot of work but article marketing is a lot of work.

    when i first started, since i am from malaysia, my english writing is not so good and keep getting my articles rejected due to the grammar issue. i take my time, learnt it and now i am able to write, submit and get approved the first time.

    once you have some cash, you can always outsource the writing, ir invest back in your business.

    well, this is just my experience and hope it helps.

    good luck

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  • Profile picture of the author Slin
    Even better idea?

    point those articles to a squeeze page!

    That way no matter what, you know that traffic is recurring
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  • Profile picture of the author gittar1122
    If your articles are listed in Ezine then use some linkbuilding for them even you can use xRumer for this purpose. As Ezine sites have great value in Google's eye so if you do a little linkbuilding, it will give you impressive results.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by gittar1122 View Post

      As Ezine sites have great value in Google's eye so if you do a little linkbuilding, it will give you impressive results.
      Maybe even nearly as impressive, in the long run, as if you did the backlinking to your own site, rather than to somebody else's ... and use article directories to get traffic from them rather than sending traffic you're generating to them. :rolleyes:

      If you build backlinks to EZA's copies of your articles rather than to your own, then EZA will always outrank your own site for your own keywords. A funny way to try and build a business. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author jitterbug978
    I for one would never do *much* link building to an article site when I could rank my own properties and not have to worry about click throughs or my article being taken down.

    I'm not totally against it, but many times it will pay off in the long run to have your own page sitting in that high ranking position.
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    • Profile picture of the author gittar1122
      Agreed

      A typical article distribution involves submitting to around 1-5k worth of article directories and E-zines. Any time you submit the same piece of content to that many sites it creates unnecessary competition. This is especially true if your site is new. The article directories and ezines are old, your site is new. So they win.

      The first thing the article directory owners did of course was to edit the articles and take out the links to the authors websites and throw in their own affiliate links.

      Originally Posted by jitterbug978 View Post

      I for one would never do *much* link building to an article site when I could rank my own properties and not have to worry about click throughs or my article being taken down.

      I'm not totally against it, but many times it will pay off in the long run to have your own page sitting in that high ranking position.
      Maybe even nearly as impressive, in the long run, as if you did the backlinking to your own site, rather than to somebody else's ... and use article directories to get traffic from them rather than sending traffic you're generating to them. :rolleyes:

      If you build backlinks to EZA's copies of your articles rather than to your own, then EZA will always outrank your own site for your own keywords. A funny way to try and build a business. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Vicky K
    Exactly like the others already said. Make your articles unique, make them special. And I don't mean unique only in the wording to pass copyscrape. I mean content. If your conpetitors are writing about "pink cat sweaters", write about "pink cat sweaters as wedding present" or whatever ive them a unique twist, show google something they don't have already. Search in ezinearticles.com for your keyword before you write about it. See how many other articles there are already for this exact keyword. If you already got 2000 people writing the same stuff about the same thing, neither google nor ezinearticles are gonna wanna show yours, too. There is no news anymore. They already got that covered.

    So, be creatie! Be special! You can do it
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  • Profile picture of the author Slin
    Just wanted to say that backlinking with xrumer is way powerful though.

    Those little backlinks won't work well on a newer site, so piggy backing off of say ezines, blasting it with an xrumer blast, and then collecting the profit, is a great way for quick results.
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  • Profile picture of the author kenny5
    It depends on the niche and how competitive it is. Look at the competing pages and their page rank and back links. This will give you a good idea of how hard it will be to rank your articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author dsbusiness23
    I am a trial member of niche profit classroom. I have been following exactly what they have said with writing articles and everything for the 21 day traffic blueprint, I am on day 7 but still haven't seen much traffic to my website. I wonder what I'm doing wrong, any advice? Oh and by the way 1 article is about to be published on Ezine, the others are in review. I am ranked high on Suite101 and several others, but still hardly any traffic
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    • Profile picture of the author alexdigital
      Originally Posted by dsbusiness23 View Post

      I am a trial member of niche profit classroom. I have been following exactly what they have said with writing articles and everything for the 21 day traffic blueprint, I am on day 7 but still haven't seen much traffic to my website. I wonder what I'm doing wrong, any advice? Oh and by the way 1 article is about to be published on Ezine, the others are in review. I am ranked high on Suite101 and several others, but still hardly any traffic
      Stick with it. You need to do the full 21 days though. I've got all my articles approved on Ezine and i'm in the sucky Registry Cleaner Niche...

      I've getting traffic and sales, however you need to be patient. It doesn't happen over night!

      P.S. I just looked at your site. Why didn't you use niche profit press? I think it would look better than what you have.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gracey
    I have the same problem with some of my articles I have some for over 6 months and I cant see the traffic coming from them.
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  • Profile picture of the author NateRivers
    Yeah article marketing is a mind-numbing writing and numbers game. I could have written a few novels with the number of words I've typed into my keyboard.
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  • Profile picture of the author moneymakerz
    Build backlinks back to your article using keywords as anchortext for which you want your article to rank.............
    One tip is to use free sites like blogger and hubpages. Take your original article and spin it. Then post it on these free sites.
    Do not worry about duplicate content
    Alternatively you can automate the process by using SEnuke
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