Some questions about outsourcing article (IM niche)

[06294086]

Hello everyone,

I'm thinking of outsourcing IM related articles to ghostwriters and I have some questions to ask :

1. Is there any "ideal" percentage of keyword density in an article ?
I heard that it's not important as long as some of the keywords are included in the
title and the article body...

2. How long should the article be ?
Some people said 400-600 words, some said 200-300 words...

3. Which one is better, rewrite articles that have been proven to get thousands of views
or completely new one ?

4. Should I manually submit them or should I use article submitter software. Any
recommendations for article submitter software ?

5. Is it worth to pay more for LSI optimized articles ?
There has been articles about how search engines "like" LSI articles...

6. Where can I get templates for "good" author resource box that I can straight away copy and
modify a bit?

7. If I submit articles to EZA, is it worth to become premium member to cut off article
approval time ?

OK, that's all I can think of now. I'll ask questions again if I come up with something...

Any advice/help/opinion/suggestions will be welcomed.

Thank you in advance !

[Dal.K]

Hi, hope my answers help, although I'm no article expert. Cheers Dal.


1. Is there any "ideal" percentage of keyword density in an article ?
I heard that it's not important as long as some of the keywords are included in the
title and the article body...

I tend to go for 1 keyword phrase per 100 words. Just make sure you people can read your article, thats the main thing.

2. How long should the article be ?

I try and aim for around 250 words, so that the reader doesn't lose interest before seeing the resource box.

3. Which one is better, rewrite articles that have been proven to get thousands of views
or completely new one ?

I don't know exactly what you mean here. It might be an idea to look at the theme and the keyword phrase of a popular article do a bit of keyword research rather than just looking at a popular article first, because if you're referring to Ezine Articles, the most viewed section isn't always representative of a popular topic because people are artificially increasing their views using turks, and pay per click etc.

4. Should I manually submit them or should I use article submitter software. Any
recommendations for article submitter software ?

I outsource manual submissions. I don't have any experience of article submitters so I can't say recommend any.

5. Is it worth to pay more for LSI optimized articles ?
There has been articles about how search engines "like" LSI articles...

You don't need to pay more for LSI articles. Just use Google Keyword tool for related keyword phrases and incorporate a list of the popular related phases into your article. Using related keyword phrases is more important than frequency of keywords nowadays.

6. Where can I get templates for "good" author resource box that I can straight away copy and
modify a bit?

Try looking at the expert authors list on Ezine, and analyse their resource boxes.

7. If I submit articles to EZA, is it worth to become premium member to cut off article
approval time ?

Only you can answer that. I guess, if article marketing is your main traffic generator, and you're consistently submitting lots everyday, it might be worth exploring. I'm not a premium member by the way, but thats because I don't do too much article marketing.

Any advice/help/opinion/suggestions will be welcomed.

Thank you in advance !

[Mike Hersh]

I want to add something.

From my experience in the Internet marketing niche, and I have over 6 years of experience, I can tell you that if you'll spend your money on articles you'll not get it back.

Unfortunately, there are niches that article marketing is just not working.

Let me tell you why.

Most of the IM keywords have a lot of competitors, and to get high ranking on Google you need to have a lot of luck, and a professional article written.

When you write your articles, and when you do your keyword research, it's to get high ranking for the keywords you find. That's why you can understand that it will be very hard to get page one of Google for your keywords.

You should not count on people who search the EzineArticles directory because they are very poor.

What I want to make clear, is that YOU CAN find good keywords, but you'll have to digg in for a few hours of research.

Just trying to save you some money.

Mike G

[young-Money]

Mike G is right,the internet marketing Niche is very competitive.Except you have years of experience,its hard to make money in it.But hey,dont let anyone tell you that you cant do,go and give it a try!

[06294086]

Originally Posted by Dal.K

Hi, hope my answers help, although I'm no article expert. Cheers Dal.


1. Is there any "ideal" percentage of keyword density in an article ?
I heard that it's not important as long as some of the keywords are included in the
title and the article body...

I tend to go for 1 keyword phrase per 100 words. Just make sure you people can read your article, thats the main thing.

2. How long should the article be ?

I try and aim for around 250 words, so that the reader doesn't lose interest before seeing the resource box.

3. Which one is better, rewrite articles that have been proven to get thousands of views
or completely new one ?

I don't know exactly what you mean here. It might be an idea to look at the theme and the keyword phrase of a popular article do a bit of keyword research rather than just looking at a popular article first, because if you're referring to Ezine Articles, the most viewed section isn't always representative of a popular topic because people are artificially increasing their views using turks, and pay per click etc.

4. Should I manually submit them or should I use article submitter software. Any
recommendations for article submitter software ?

I outsource manual submissions. I don't have any experience of article submitters so I can't say recommend any.

5. Is it worth to pay more for LSI optimized articles ?
There has been articles about how search engines "like" LSI articles...

You don't need to pay more for LSI articles. Just use Google Keyword tool for related keyword phrases and incorporate a list of the popular related phases into your article. Using related keyword phrases is more important than frequency of keywords nowadays.

6. Where can I get templates for "good" author resource box that I can straight away copy and
modify a bit?

Try looking at the expert authors list on Ezine, and analyse their resource boxes.

7. If I submit articles to EZA, is it worth to become premium member to cut off article
approval time ?

Only you can answer that. I guess, if article marketing is your main traffic generator, and you're consistently submitting lots everyday, it might be worth exploring. I'm not a premium member by the way, but thats because I don't do too much article marketing.

Any advice/help/opinion/suggestions will be welcomed.

Thank you in advance !

Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises

I like the way Dal responded so I'm stealing...um, emulating his response

1. Is there any "ideal" percentage of keyword density in an article ?
I heard that it's not important as long as some of the keywords are included in the
title and the article body...

If you plan on submitting to EZA, then you need to stick to 1% or less. Otherwise, you can go a bit higher as long as you remember that humans will be reading the content.

2. How long should the article be ?
Some people said 400-600 words, some said 200-300 words...

This depends on the topic and the audience, more than anything. You will likely have to test what range works best for your niche. If it's written well, you could have 1000 words and the reader will still click through. If the content is boring, then maybe you should stick to shorter pieces.

3. Which one is better, rewrite articles that have been proven to get thousands of views
or completely new one ?

Usually it will be better to create a new article but you can test that. If you are referring to finding an article on the web and re-writing that, that's cheating and is called "creating a derivative work" in the offline world. People do get away with it, however, so I guess that will be according to your own convictions.

4. Should I manually submit them or should I use article submitter software. Any
recommendations for article submitter software ?

I can't answer this one as I've never used software.

5. Is it worth to pay more for LSI optimized articles ?
There has been articles about how search engines "like" LSI articles...

Any professional writer is going to be using LSI naturally so I don't feel that this is something to pay extra for. How could you write an article and not use related terms?

6. Where can I get templates for "good" author resource box that I can straight away copy and
modify a bit?

No suggestions on a template but you want to have a call to action in it and not some boring bio.

7. If I submit articles to EZA, is it worth to become premium member to cut off article
approval time ?

Only if you will be submitting a lot of articles, in my opinion. So you have to wait - after a week or two, if you keep submitting daily then you will see articles going live daily without paying for the privilege. Plus, EZA is not the only game in town.

Keep in mind that you will likely get a variety of answers on all your questions as much of it is opinion based. Your best bet is to test the factors for yourself.

Tina

Originally Posted by Mike Hersh

I want to add something.

From my experience in the Internet marketing niche, and I have over 6 years of experience, I can tell you that if you'll spend your money on articles you'll not get it back.

Unfortunately, there are niches that article marketing is just not working.

Let me tell you why.

Most of the IM keywords have a lot of competitors, and to get high ranking on Google you need to have a lot of luck, and a professional article written.

When you write your articles, and when you do your keyword research, it's to get high ranking for the keywords you find. That's why you can understand that it will be very hard to get page one of Google for your keywords.

You should not count on people who search the EzineArticles directory because they are very poor.

What I want to make clear, is that YOU CAN find good keywords, but you'll have to digg in for a few hours of research.

Just trying to save you some money.

Mike G

Originally Posted by young-Money

Mike G is right,the internet marketing Niche is very competitive.Except you have years of experience,its hard to make money in it.But hey,dont let anyone tell you that you cant do,go and give it a try!

Thanks for the advices everyone; they are really helpful.

The reason why I want to start with IM niche is because that's where my mentor told me to start from. Anyway, I won't be spending so much money in the beginning so I think it's worth to try.

There are simply too many people say that articles are still one of the best free/low cost and long term traffic generation method so it is surely worth to try.

When I refer to the article length, it will be for Internet Marketing niche...

As why I'm considering re-writing articles, it's because I want to know why some articles got a lot more views compared to other articles with similar titles despite the fact that people do artificially increase their views.

I'm thinking of at least 80% unique content.

Another question : Any advices/tips on how to get good keywords for IM niche articles that have decent daily searches (at least about 1000/day) and low competition (less than 10,000) ?

[CDarklock]

Originally Posted by 06294086

1. Is there any "ideal" percentage of keyword density in an article ?

2% is about the highest you want to go, and generally a competent writer will hit a good level just in the course of writing the article. I almost never have to try for a specific keyword density.

2. How long should the article be ?

Most of the articles I write for clients are 300-400 words; about a third of them are 500-800 words.

Actually, looking at my current orders, I have 40 out of the 60 articles in my backlog specified at 350 words... another twelve are "300-400" in length. So right now, my queue is about 87% in the 300-400 word range and the rest somewhat longer.

3. Which one is better, rewrite articles that have been proven to get thousands of views or completely new one ?

Completely new, IMO. (I personally charge the same either way, so there's no benefit to me in pushing one over the other. Actually, rewrites are easier.)

4. Should I manually submit them or should I use article submitter software. Any recommendations for article submitter software ?

Doesn't matter. Never used any. Once the article's finished, it's not my job anymore.

5. Is it worth to pay more for LSI optimized articles ?
There has been articles about how search engines "like" LSI articles...

No, it's not worth it. LSI is how Google determines whether a page is really just a bunch of garbage trying to rank for a keyword. You're ordering articles, not garbage. You know the difference.

6. Where can I get templates for "good" author resource box that I can straight away copy and modify a bit?

Author resource boxes should flow out of the article, and seem like part of it. You should write a new one (or have one written) for every article.

7. If I submit articles to EZA, is it worth to become premium member to cut off article approval time ?

I don't think it is. People who rely more on EZA might disagree.

[06294086]

Originally Posted by CDarklock

2% is about the highest you want to go, and generally a competent writer will hit a good level just in the course of writing the article. I almost never have to try for a specific keyword density.



Most of the articles I write for clients are 300-400 words; about a third of them are 500-800 words.

Actually, looking at my current orders, I have 40 out of the 60 articles in my backlog specified at 350 words... another twelve are "300-400" in length. So right now, my queue is about 87% in the 300-400 word range and the rest somewhat longer.



Completely new, IMO. (I personally charge the same either way, so there's no benefit to me in pushing one over the other. Actually, rewrites are easier.)



Doesn't matter. Never used any. Once the article's finished, it's not my job anymore.



No, it's not worth it. LSI is how Google determines whether a page is really just a bunch of garbage trying to rank for a keyword. You're ordering articles, not garbage. You know the difference.



Author resource boxes should flow out of the article, and seem like part of it. You should write a new one (or have one written) for every article.



I don't think it is. People who rely more on EZA might disagree.

Thanks a lot for the detailed reply !

I think I'll go for short article (300-400 words).

I have another question : Where should I put "anchor texts" inside an article (IM-related) ?

I remember someone mentioned that they must be inside 2nd or later paragraph...

Anchor text is a phrase like "make money online" inside an article that links to an outside URL right ?

[Dal.K]

Mike, I have to disagree- big style, you're making some sweeping statements here, for one, you've said that spending money on articles will not result in a return. Secondly, you've also said that you need alot of luck to get a high ranking on Google for a keyword phrase with an article.

How can you make such a general statement, when there are people on this forum who make their income, by article marketing?

Luck isn't the sole factor for success online, its hardwork, and good marketing sense.

Even if keywords are competitive, so what? If they're competitive that usually means they are profitable.

You can get a page 1 ranking by scanning the kind of properties on the first page. If there is an article or a Squidoo lens chances are, you can oust them by building backlinks, seo promotion and updating your content.

Do these things, and you'll notice your rankings rise, and you'll give yourself a far greater opportunity.

Furthermore, you don't need to spend hours finding good keywords, It's better to learn how to you can outrank your competition with competitive keywords, instead of spending hours on end to find that diamond. If you acknowledge that competition is tough, then you'll realise that hardwork will result in success.

Don't avoid competition; it's where the money is.
Dal

Originally Posted by Mike Hersh

I want to add something.

From my experience in the Internet marketing niche, and I have over 6 years of experience, I can tell you that if you'll spend your money on articles you'll not get it back.

Unfortunately, there are niches that article marketing is just not working.

Let me tell you why.

Most of the IM keywords have a lot of competitors, and to get high ranking on Google you need to have a lot of luck, and a professional article written.

When you write your articles, and when you do your keyword research, it's to get high ranking for the keywords you find. That's why you can understand that it will be very hard to get page one of Google for your keywords.

You should not count on people who search the EzineArticles directory because they are very poor.

What I want to make clear, is that YOU CAN find good keywords, but you'll have to digg in for a few hours of research.

Just trying to save you some money.

Mike G

[06294086]

Originally Posted by Dal.K

Mike, I have to disagree- big style, you're making some sweeping statements here, for one, you've said that spending money on articles will not result in a return. Secondly, you've also said that you need alot of luck to get a high ranking on Google for a keyword phrase with an article.

How can you make such a general statement, when there are people on this forum who make their income, by article marketing?

Luck isn't the sole factor for success online, its hardwork, and good marketing sense.

Even if keywords are competitive, so what? If they're competitive that usually means they are profitable.

You can get a page 1 ranking by scanning the kind of properties on the first page. If there is an article or a Squidoo lens chances are, you can oust them by building backlinks, seo promotion and updating your content.

Do these things, and you'll notice your rankings rise, and you'll give yourself a far greater opportunity.

Furthermore, you don't need to spend hours finding good keywords, It's better to learn how to you can outrank your competition with competitive keywords, instead of spending hours on end to find that diamond. If you acknowledge that competition is tough, then you'll realise that hardwork will result in success.

Don't avoid competition; it's where the money is.
Dal

Thanks for the encouragement Dal !

I agree 100% person with what you said : Don't be afraid with competition since lots of competition means that there are lots of interests which means that there are lots of money to be made !

By the way, I have some new questions (related to IM niche articles) :

1.Where should I put "anchor texts" inside an article (IM-related) ?

I remember someone mentioned that they must be inside 2nd or later paragraph...
Anchor text is a phrase like "make money online" inside an article that links to an outside URL right ?

2.Any tips on getting keywords that are not too competitive but still have good amount
of daily searches ?

I can only think of something like "make money online" for IM niche...

3.What's the minimum number of views per month should a good article get ?

Thanks in advance for all the advices !