I was happy...now I'm a little dissapointed

15 years ago

First of all, why are you sending leads to a sales page that you know is a pile of doodoo? If you can go down the "create your own product" route then go for it, if not find a good product with a good sales page.

You need to flesh out what you are doing a little more before anyone can give any real advice. When you say you submitted articles, do you mean to your blog or article directories or anywhere else? What sort of articles were they, presell, informational etc? Where is your traffic coming from to these articles?

Originally Posted by Steven Rayne

I have been creating a Wordpress blog for a few months now. I have a few pages of good content. At first I tried adsense but didn't get very much and decided to try affiliate marketing. I thought I'd prefer affiliate marketing (and I do)

So I switched to affiliate marketing a submitted two or three articles. I went to sleep and woke up $26 richer!!! Great! I thought, I'll submit another five articles and get at least one or two sales from them.

The problem is, three days and five articles later, I haven't made another sale yet.

I thought my work had finally paid off. That I would have to work on getting a sale a day, it seems I now have to work on getting my next sale rather than one a day.

Does anyone have any advice on how to improve sales?

The landing page of the affiliate product sucks. I can't afford to buy and check the qualty of the product (which i'd like to do ideally) but that shouldn't matter to the readers.

I am debating whether or not to create my own product, but funds are very limited and I don't know if my time would be better spent marketing the affiliate product until I can afford to create (ideally outsource) my own product.....But the affiliate landing page really does suck!

If it makes any difference, the owner of the product is a member of this forum (I expected much better from him) and the product is outside IM.

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Steven

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Steven Rayne

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

First of all, why are you sending leads to a sales page that you know is a pile of doodoo? If you can go down the "create your own product" route then go for it, if not find a good product with a good sales page.

You need to flesh out what you are doing a little more before anyone can give any real advice. When you say you submitted articles, do you mean to your blog or article directories or anywhere else? What sort of articles were they, presell, informational etc? Where is your traffic coming from to these articles?

Hi Steve,

Thanks for offering your time.

I am using Ezine for traffic (and only ezine) no other sources.
There is only two products in this niche, I chose the better sales page (I THINK)
I am submitting information articles in hope of building credibility before trying to sell something.
I am worried about creating my own product without any money, (at all) Mostly because A)have I got enough knowledge to create a good product...?
B)it took me three months to create a blog with 4 page lol

Hope to get some feedback and advice from you,

Thank you!

Steven

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Stephen Crooks

15 years ago

First of all, creating your own product need not be an expensive venture. Research can be done online. It might take you some time to do but it certainly should be something you seriously consider doing.

The other option you should look at is creating a good sales page and sending your visitors directly to the order page of your vendor's product.

Originally Posted by Steven Rayne

Hi Steve,

Thanks for offering your time.

I am using Ezine for traffic (and only ezine) no other sources.
There is only two products in this niche, I chose the better sales page (I THINK)
I am submitting information articles in hope of building credibility before trying to sell something.
I am worried about creating my own product without any money, (at all) Mostly because A)have I got enough knowledge to create a good product...?
B)it took me three months to create a blog with 4 page lol

Hope to get some feedback and advice from you,

Thank you!

Steven

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russmarsha

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Rayne

I have been creating a Wordpress blog for a few months now. I have a few pages of good content. At first I tried adsense but didn't get very much and decided to try affiliate marketing. I thought I'd prefer affiliate marketing (and I do)

So I switched to affiliate marketing a submitted two or three articles. I went to sleep and woke up $26 richer!!! Great! I thought, I'll submit another five articles and get at least one or two sales from them.

The problem is, three days and five articles later, I haven't made another sale yet.

I thought my work had finally paid off. That I would have to work on getting a sale a day, it seems I now have to work on getting my next sale rather than one a day.

Does anyone have any advice on how to improve sales?

The landing page of the affiliate product sucks. I can't afford to buy and check the qualty of the product (which i'd like to do ideally) but that shouldn't matter to the readers.

I am debating whether or not to create my own product, but funds are very limited and I don't know if my time would be better spent marketing the affiliate product until I can afford to create (ideally outsource) my own product.....But the affiliate landing page really does suck!

If it makes any difference, the owner of the product is a member of this forum (I expected much better from him) and the product is outside IM.

Thanks in advance,

Steven

Hi Steven
Welcome to the world of affiliate marketing. It is pretty common to get results like your having.
Sounds like you built a nice site with good content, you could think of selling the site for a few hundred dollars, and that could be your business model.
Or if you sell it now you can use that money to get your own product going.

Just my 2 cents
Russ

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Steven Rayne

15 years ago

Hey James,

Thanks for answering.
I have been using atrticles for traffic, have I got the wrong idea?

I forgot to mention, there are only two products available, both sales pages aren't very good. But I have chosen the better one (I think)
The product I'm using has a gravity of ten...I'm certain that this is a good niche but most potential affiliates probably don't think about this niche.

Also, there are products for sale but they are not being sold through clickbank (they are being sold on other websites relating to the product.)

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Peter Clarke

15 years ago

Affiliate sites are a good way to get started and learn the craft, but like drop-shippers, your business - and your reputaion! - are in the hands of others.

Find a local manufaturer (not wholesaler) for a good, reasonable volume product, and agree trade terms and short delivery times with them.

If you get it right you can get paid by paypal and bank the cash before you have to buy - at worst you only need a small amount of stock.

If you can agree to collect personally, you can avoid carriage charges and control the product flow more tightly.

As business builds you can start to stock hold small amounts and order bigger quantities to push your discount up.

13 years later and you will have a 13 billion turnover and be called Amazon!!

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jhongren

15 years ago

I have been creating a Wordpress blog for a few months now. I have a few pages of good content. At first I tried adsense but didn't get very much and decided to try affiliate marketing. I thought I'd prefer affiliate marketing (and I do)

So I switched to affiliate marketing a submitted two or three articles. I went to sleep and woke up $26 richer!!! Great! I thought, I'll submit another five articles and get at least one or two sales from them.

The problem is, three days and five articles later, I haven't made another sale yet.

I thought my work had finally paid off. That I would have to work on getting a sale a day, it seems I now have to work on getting my next sale rather than one a day.

Does anyone have any advice on how to improve sales?

I think this thread is good for you to increase
your knowledge on article marketing
=> http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...marketing.html

I am debating whether or not to create my own product, but funds are very limited and I don't know if my time would be better spent marketing the affiliate product until I can afford to create (ideally outsource) my own product.....But the affiliate landing page really does suck!

Creating product is not as hard as you think.

It can be a 15 pages report of high quality
content and you just need a MS word and a pdf converter
which you can get free online.

=> Convert MS Word (doc) files to Adobe Acrobat files (pdf) for free. No login required.

and next, you can use back your domain
and create a squeeze page and start building
your list.

or you can promote your product in this forum
in the warrior special offer thread.

John

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Clint Butler 15 years ago

Thank you for passing on the article marketing thread.

Regards,
Clint A. Butler
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Avdo

15 years ago

If landing page of product you're promoting sucks, then make presell pages, on your blog for example, try to make honest review of product and then send traffic to that presell pages..if you make it good and honest,convincing, then it doesn't matter if the main sales page of product is bad..you will increase your chance for sale..
hope this helps

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Graham Maddison

15 years ago

Hi Steve,

I am sure we have all experienced what you have at some point. The problem is that you decided on your niche before setting up your blog.

Try it the other way round - find a product on clickbank with high gravity 100 or more -checkout the sales page to make sure it tempts you to buy if you were in the market, then setup your blog and drive traffic to it - articles etc.

Graham

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vagabondette

15 years ago

No offense but it sounds to me like you're laying a lot of blame at the foot of the product developer and not on yourself. You chose the product, you chose the way you're marketing, your traffic isn't converting. You need to figure out how to change that. You can only change what you're doing so blaming someone else is pointless. If you really think it's a great product, talk to the developer about maybe sending people directly to a checkout page rather than to their sales page.

Also, stop putting all of your eggs in one basket. Ezine is great but it is far from the only option. Affiliate marketing takes a lot of work and a lot of trial and error. Thinking you'll just be able to slap a few articles up and be an overnight success is unrealistic. Some people take months or even years before they're making a steady income so the odds of you doing it in a couple weeks are slim.

If you don't like (or aren't sure of the quality of the product out there (and I'm not sure why that shouldn't be important to your customer) then create your own.

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Jill Carpenter 15 years ago

Do you have an autoresponder set up on that blog or are you letting the traffic that did go there just pass on by?

Are you missing your opportunity to sell to them again?

Oh, just to let you know - it is highly unlikely that you are going to really get away with 4 pages of blog content and a few articles.

You need to cast more reels into the ocean. It is not only a matter of having some high quality content, but things are a numbers game.

I just did a blog post on this about SEO and comparing things to an offline business.

Essentially, you have a business and you are somewhere in boonies. So, I have no idea your business even exists. I am here on the north east coast and you for this example I will pretend are in the Arizona desert.

Let's say you are selling snakeskin boots, and I am looking for some. Maybe a few people in Arizona know you have some boots, but I just did a search and I don't have a clue.

You have a couple of billboards up in Arizona and the surrounding states, so I don't drive by those as I am in the east coast. Not a clue you exist.

Now you go out and get some big old billboards set up in all 50 states, Canada, and Puerto Rico. They are on every highway I drive around on. All I see are ads for Steve's Snakeskin boots. You don't actually make the boots yourself - you are just promoting your store and that you have them and you love to wear them yourself.

Have you really done everything you can to get the exposure out on these boots?

Have you commented on others blogs, submitted RSS, submitted multiple keyword rich articles to more than one directory, considered dropping in a simple video somewhere and added an autoresponder so you can at least try to sell to folks again if they don't purchase the first time around?

Did you make a blogger page about what you're selling? Have you made a hub page on the topic (both of these will let you kick in some more adsense btw) Have you created a squidoo page? Have you bookmarked all your pages? Have you submitted your RSS feeds?

Have you really done everything in your power to get the word out on the product which you yourself were compelled to buy?
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- Vaan 15 years ago
  
  So I think the problems is not on your hard work, I see you have works so hard in order to get a sale,
  
  my advice is, be selective on promoting products, try vendor with high quality salespages in your niche and have " Call to Action" word on their end of salespages, adn also optin form for the visitor
  
  Sometimes those "Call To Action" will encourage visitor to buy the product..
  
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Steven Rayne

15 years ago

Originally Posted by vagabondette

If you don't like (or aren't sure of the quality of the product out there (and I'm not sure why that shouldn't be important to your customer) then create your own.

The value given to the customer is important to me. It's the reason I provide good content.

What I meant was, the quality of the product doesn't make a difference to the reason my leads aren't converting (like I believe they could) because they don't see the product before they buy.

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Steven Rayne

15 years ago

Thanks for eveyones advice.

I'm still not sure whether or not I should consentrate on
Getting traffic
Seo
Creating my own product

Each of these things will take weeks to do as I'm still new at all this.

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Tsnyder

15 years ago

No offense intended to the OP but... if you're new at this how
do you know the sales page sucks? The aesthetic qualities of the
page aren't nearly as important as the conversion rate.

It may, in fact, suck... but your personal style preferences aren't
the measuring stick. I've seen very ugly sales pages that earned their
owners a ton of money.

Tsnyder

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DAS_Matt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Tsnyder

No offense intended to the OP but... if you're new at this how
do you know the sales page sucks? The aesthetic qualities of the
page aren't nearly as important as the conversion rate.

It may, in fact, suck... but your personal style preferences aren't
the measuring stick. I've seen very ugly sales pages that earned their
owners a ton of money.

Tsnyder

I've always lived by the ugly sells better rule. LOL Every time I've gone for "pretty" when it comes to design my sales sucked a$$> when I went KISS principle and/or ugly they were much better. :>))

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Robyn8243

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Tsnyder

No offense intended to the OP but... if you're new at this how
do you know the sales page sucks? The aesthetic qualities of the
page aren't nearly as important as the conversion rate.

It may, in fact, suck... but your personal style preferences aren't
the measuring stick. I've seen very ugly sales pages that earned their
owners a ton of money.

Tsnyder

Great point...it takes a certain degree of experience to recognize what is most likely a good sales page. Even then, only testing really tells the truth.

One disadvantage OP has is not really knowing about the product you are promoting. It is much easier to create a strong presell page or even article when you can speak from authority, that comes from knowing about what you are selling. You should see if you can get a review copy from the product owner. Mention that you have already made one sale and are looking for ways to bring even more sales.

Robyn

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Steven Rayne

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Robyn8243

Great point...it takes a certain degree of experience to recognize what is most likely a good sales page. Even then, only testing really tells the truth.

One disadvantage OP has is not really knowing about the product you are promoting. It is much easier to create a strong presell page or even article when you can speak from authority, that comes from knowing about what you are selling. You should see if you can get a review copy from the product owner. Mention that you have already made one sale and are looking for ways to bring even more sales.

Robyn

Robin

Thanks for your comment. This is part of the problem. The sales page doesn't really say what I'm getting if someone buys the product, neither does it emphasize the value it will provide.

I didn't mean to be disrespectful to the product owner (although thinking about it, it was a little insensitive-sorry)

A)I have a solution to a problem (my affiliate product)
B)Buyers will get there money back within a week or two.

So it should convert quite well.

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Troy_Phillips

15 years ago

You have already put in the work ... do not scrap the product , just scrap the producers sales page .

Contact the producer and tell them that you want to use your own sales page and need a page to promote that only has their buy now link on it .

I have done this before and most producers have no problem with setting up a page for you if you can show them some proof of your ability to sell their product .

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TelegramSam

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Rayne

..few pages of good content.

...submitted two or three articles.

Herein lies one of the main problems.

Can you spot what is needed for more success?

Sam

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spartanic

15 years ago

Yea, adsense totally sucks if you don't have the huge traffic to justify putting it onto your website. However you could also create content targeted towards higher paying keywords which you wouldn't need so much traffic.

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ppcpimp

15 years ago

if you are not sold by the landing page of the product you are promoting then why would you think that anyone else would be?

change products and keeping plugging away.

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