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Actually most MLM companies are not scams, Intelligent people can see through the Bull and Hype, see what it takes to succeed and make them work.

Many many people are making extremely good residual incomes because of MLM.

Also what century are you living in ? The whole 97% of people fail at MLM is back in the dark ages of MLM, this is not the case today, because of the world wide web more people today than ever are making a decent income through MLM and other Affiliate type programs.

Granted MLM companies in the physical world are virtually impossible to make any money from let alone the thousands they hype up.

Online MLM is something quite different, they work in a similar way but it is a lot easier to make it work, you can reach 100's of thousands of people online where as in the physical world this is beyond most peoples abillities.

Now a days, Being able to reach out to 100,000's of people online makes MLM a very lucrative and excellent way to earn a good part time or full time income.

My BIGGEST PEEVE people who come on forums only to bash stuff and deliberately bag things, these are the people who should be banned.

Offer people an informative opinion or not at all.

You earn a great income creating your own product and building your own business, not someone elses...

Last time I checked this was a Internet Marketing Forum and not a Multi-Level Scan Marketing Forum..

The amount of time, effort, energy, money you waste on those MLM scams you could put into your own business, your own products and make 10 times as much with alot less work and hassel.

Don't think that is true.. Well you are on a marketing forum, just ask those marketers here...

James

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TheRichJerksNet

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Spiderwebsystemsuccess

FYI

I do run my own company, i run a very successful Import / Wholesale company, it is a physical business which i started from my garage, with one product.

I now have a full warehouse operation with over 100 different products, and other people running the day to day operation for me.

So it gives me time to spend on other things like this.

And that is good for you but misleading newbies into thinking they can get $130 for doing nothing is wrong .. Many newbies rely on the advice of people that have been here for years and that have built a real honest business..

You claim you referred 400 people to that mlm site web2upgrade which stated misleading and false claims. You are proud of your $1,000 commissions that are waiting...

Think about this..

Out of those 400 people how many are going to waste their time and efforts before they drop out ?? 10% , 20% or is it more like 80%... Out of those 80% how many get fed up with it all and just give up all together ?? I can tell you now many will..

What if you sold a useful product that you created that those 400 users could have used to better their lives ... Even if you sold that product at $17.97 that is $7,188.00 in profits (gee way more than that $1,000)

What you could have done is actually helped 400 people + have 400 loyal customers that would trust you and be back for more great high quality products.

Now understand what I am saying.. and this is posted for those newbies that may be ripped into the pits of mlm hell..

* You actually helped 400 people with a useful high quality product
* you have gained trust amoung these 400 customers
* you havea loyal list that will be the first in line to purchase more from you
* You made 7 times the amount of money

You will notice I listed the money last, why ? Simple your business should not be all about the money. First and fore most is to create a useful high quality product that actually helps and solves people's problems. Once you have done that, the feeling alone to know that you actually helped and not hindered is tremendous, the money made is just icing on the cake.

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Zach Booker

15 years ago

James Is 100% right.

There is nothing even to add to this post, he said it amazingly and every bit of it is true.

I don't care what you do to make money, at the end of the day most people are going to do what makes them the most money. And honestly when you help people and get loyal customers you will make more money, there is no doubt about it!

Zach

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

And that is good for you but misleading newbies into thinking they can get $130 for doing nothing is wrong .. Many newbies rely on the advice of people that have been here for years and that have built a real honest business..

You claim you referred 400 people to that mlm site web2upgrade which stated misleading and false claims. You are proud of your $1,000 commissions that are waiting...

Think about this..

Out of those 400 people how many are going to waste their time and efforts before they drop out ?? 10% , 20% or is it more like 80%... Out of those 80% how many get fed up with it all and just give up all together ?? I can tell you now many will..

What if you sold a useful product that you created that those 400 users could have used to better their lives ... Even if you sold that product at $17.97 that is $7,188.00 in profits (gee way more than that $1,000)

What you could have done is actually helped 400 people + have 400 loyal customers that would trust you and be back for more great high quality products.

Now understand what I am saying.. and this is posted for those newbies that may be ripped into the pits of mlm hell..

* You actually helped 400 people with a useful high quality product
* you have gained trust amoung these 400 customers
* you havea loyal list that will be the first in line to purchase more from you
* You made 7 times the amount of money

You will notice I listed the money last, why ? Simple your business should not be all about the money. First and fore most is to create a useful high quality product that actually helps and solves people's problems. Once you have done that, the feeling alone to know that you actually helped and not hindered is tremendous, the money made is just icing on the cake.

James

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Adam Kenzington

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Spiderwebsystemsuccess

Actually most MLM companies are not scams, Intelligent people can see through the Bull and Hype, see what it takes to succeed and make them work.

Many many people are making extremely good residual incomes because of MLM.

Also what century are you living in ? The whole 97% of people fail at MLM is back in the dark ages of MLM, this is not the case today, because of the world wide web more people today than ever are making a decent income through MLM and other Affiliate type programs.

Granted MLM companies in the physical world are virtually impossible to make any money from let alone the thousands they hype up.

Online MLM is something quite different, they work in a similar way but it is a lot easier to make it work, you can reach 100's of thousands of people online where as in the physical world this is beyond most peoples abillities.

Now a days, Being able to reach out to 100,000's of people online makes MLM a very lucrative and excellent way to earn a good part time or full time income.

My BIGGEST PEEVE people who come on forums only to bash stuff and deliberately bag things, these are the people who should be banned.

Offer people an informative opinion or not at all.

Hey Buddy,

I've been in 3 different MLMs and lost money every time. I just went to your webpage and watched the video. Talk about over the top "Promise the world" marketing. Was that supposed to convince me? Just because you use an overly excited voice and stupid claims..."I may come to my senses and withdraw this offer at any time". B.S.!!! How would you make your money without making this pitch? Stupid. And you are treating everyone else like their stupid, too.

No dealing with people, No selling, etc... So, get specific, here, baby!

Pitch it, Huckster! Give it your best shot and tell us exactly what it is. You jump all over us for Bashing Stuff and Bagging it...and we should be banned...So, give us the details. This is a money-making forum. You've come to the right place. You've got the podium, it's time for you to explain to us what makes this baby tick.

If everything is free to everybody, where does the money come from that is used to pay me this easy cash? Tell me, I'm all ears.

Hell, who knows? You might even build your downline, right here. You may convince us all to stop this stupid "Online Money-Making" thingy we're wasting our time on and come jump on the Gravy Train with you.

My BIGGEST PEEVE is for people to come on this forum and make grandiose claims without backing them up and then talk about Banning someone because they dare question you.

If this is too much of a problem, then maybe we aren't the one's needing to be banned. Back up your claims...We're waiting...

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Marcus Paul

15 years ago

MLM is not bad if the main product is a good, quality product. A good MLM program lets you sell the product and if the product is good enough it will entice others to follow you into that business.

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lazavas

15 years ago

looked into it at the start of my IM adventure but wasnt getting any support from my upline so i lost interest, emails werent being answered etc, then i discovered affiliate marketing so concentrating on that

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TheRichJerksNet

15 years ago

Originally Posted by p1a1u1l1

Great post Adam,

This guy is making so much money from MLM he has to spend his time
creating self promotional crap on forums, which gets deleted anyway...
but hey what does he care, he's rolling in it right?

My BIGGEST PEEVE people who come to forums and treat everyone like
idiots while trying to build there "wildly successful" downline with self
promotional copy & paste crap.

-paul

So very true Paul ... He does not get the fact that he is on a Internet Marketing Forum that teaches and preaches about building your own business, create your own products, actually help others, pay it forward, and many other great things that this forum is all about...

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TheRichJerksNet

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Spiderwebsystemsuccess

Paul

This is a post about the Spiderweb system yes ?

I am a successful spiderweb system member, why should only the people who bag the system have their say ?

Can i not explain what the system is all about without having my informative posts deleted ?

I am sure there are many many people who would like to hear what a successful spiderweb system user has to say yes ?

And then they can make up their own minds.

Would you want to take the word of someone who has never actually used the system ? or the word of someone who has used the system ? maybe it worked for them maybe it didn't.

I think it is unreasonable for people to bag something when they have never used it or know much about it.

If someone has used the system and did not like it and can offer some reasonable explanation as to why it is a waste of time then fair enough.

But if they haven't used the system and make negative comments about it then i think i have a right to correct some common misunderstandings about the system.

Would you not agree ?

Mike,
Understand what type of forum you are on .. This is not some thrown together spammer scam forum..

Not that I am tooting my horn or anything but to prove my point which I have already stated but you still do not seem to get it...

This is what makes this forum great
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...tml#post241634

There are many many warriors on here that have kind hearts and want to help others.. We are not interested in your MLM .. We dont need your 20 income streams crap.. We certainly do not need a self promoting members that is here for the sole purpose of promoting a scam system..

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MaryK

15 years ago

Avoid it! After you sign all the 'free' offers, you will find that unless you 'upgrade' you will not make a cent. Also, relies on you getting others to join etc. You will also get an avalanche of emails too, people wanting to be friends etc. from the various sites. My partner tried it, spent forever setting it all up - it takes ages to join all areas - only to find what I have just written about.

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Adam Kenzington

15 years ago

Hey Mike,

I'm going to give you some good advice that will probably get me some hate mail, but here goes.

Instead of promoting the Spider Web Marketing System, here (which many on this forum are gun-shy of, due to past experience with MLM or because this isn't the focus of this forum), I would follow the intent of this forum and create my own info product/e-book on how to succeed in MLM (maybe with the use of Spider Web Marketing) and publish it as a WSO (Warrior Special Offer). That way, you would actually not get in trouble for "defending" your position. You would be answering questions from potential buyers.

Also, I would change my user name. Get another one. The one you have now will have negative connotations associated with it for possible future buyers. It is very easy for someone to go to your profile and see all posts & threads you've made/been in. You only have a few posts, now...mostly from this very thread, so no major loss, there.

I would distance myself from any association with the negative feelings you have unwittingly generated with the locals. Start with the new ID right away. Study the posts on this forum and see how it all works...get the flavor of it. Members are very helpful to each other. When you want to learn something, start a thread and ask a question. When you see a post that you can add value to, go ahead and post away. Add real content, not just "I agree with what you just said" type responses. Soon, people will associate your (new) name with someone they want to pay attention to. This will all add to your post count, too. Soon, you may get a following. (Wouldn't that be a change? A fan club!)

The whole concept of making a success of it with your program is very near & dear to you. You speak/defend it with passion. It would be an easy task for you to create an info product on the subject. You would then be giving value to your readers, making money selling your info ebook (on the WSO thread), following the intent of what this Forum is all about, and forming your 23rd stream of income. Winner, all around.

Who knows, you could then offer your info product as a free bonus to those who sign up for the Spider Web membership through you (become your downline, as it were). That would be an extra incentive for your new recruits. It has "Extra Cash in Your Pocket" written all over it.

Just a thought...

Adam

Originally Posted by Spiderwebsystemsuccess

Hi Maryk

You have a valid point and i am sorry the system did not work out for you.

I would like to reply to some of the comments, yes it is true if you want to earn commissions for some of the income streams you will need to upgrade, However at no time do you have to, and the way i did it was to build a good foundation of referrals before upgrading, then when i did upgrade i earned the monthly residuals, and that covered the small monthly subscription plus profit.

Also you don't have to be an upgraded member of any income stream except GDI.

GDI is a Measly $10 a month that is it hardly going to break the bank, i would strongly recommend doing this, and concentrating on this income stream, this is the income stream that hosts your Personal Capture Page, and thus is the most important.

So to start with set up all income streams as a free member, then pay the $10 for GDI, forget about the other income streams as they will build as GDI builds, so solely concentrate all your efforts on GDI.

GDI pay a $100 weekly Bonus for every 5 referrals so if you refer 10 members in one week that is a $200 bonus if 15 that is $300 and so on it is unlimited.

This is what you need to concentrate your efforts on because like i said as GDI builds so do all the other income streams.

Now about the Avalanche of emails, these are important because it is building your network of contacts, the more friends you have on a site the more people will see what you are offering, for example if you have 100 contacts when you post a blog 100 people will see it and can choose to read it if they want, but what if you had 1000 contacts ? then 1000 people will see your blog.

Anyway you are shown how to promote the system in several different ways, and like i said if you concentrate your efforts on GDI and put the effort into promoting the system you will hit the $100 weekly bonuses.

Anyway thats kinda how you do it.

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MaryK

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Spiderwebsystemsuccess

Hi Maryk

You have a valid point and i am sorry the system did not work out for you.

I would like to reply to some of the comments, yes it is true if you want to earn commissions for some of the income streams you will need to upgrade, However at no time do you have to, and the way i did it was to build a good foundation of referrals before upgrading, then when i did upgrade i earned the monthly residuals, and that covered the small monthly subscription plus profit.

Also you don't have to be an upgraded member of any income stream except GDI.

GDI is a Measly $10 a month that is it hardly going to break the bank, i would strongly recommend doing this, and concentrating on this income stream, this is the income stream that hosts your Personal Capture Page, and thus is the most important.

So to start with set up all income streams as a free member, then pay the $10 for GDI, forget about the other income streams as they will build as GDI builds, so solely concentrate all your efforts on GDI.

GDI pay a $100 weekly Bonus for every 5 referrals so if you refer 10 members in one week that is a $200 bonus if 15 that is $300 and so on it is unlimited.

This is what you need to concentrate your efforts on because like i said as GDI builds so do all the other income streams.

Now about the Avalanche of emails, these are important because it is building your network of contacts, the more friends you have on a site the more people will see what you are offering, for example if you have 100 contacts when you post a blog 100 people will see it and can choose to read it if they want, but what if you had 1000 contacts ? then 1000 people will see your blog.

Anyway you are shown how to promote the system in several different ways, and like i said if you concentrate your efforts on GDI and put the effort into promoting the system you will hit the $100 weekly bonuses.

Anyway thats kinda how you do it.

I didn't actually try spiderweb myself, my partner did. Thank you for your advice, I will pass it on to him and hopefully he will be rejuvenated/motivated to give it another try. He's spent long enough setting it all up

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TheRichJerksNet

15 years ago

I love how you skip my replies and double quote paul ..lol Which proves paul's point...

Can you please show me one post you have made that was actually helping someone that asked for help ? Can you give me a link on this very forum where you are being a part of the forum by contributing useful and helpful information that pertains to this forum and it's users ?

James

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erickz

15 years ago

lol.. stop all these BS about this MLM stuff.. can moderator take a look :p
we dun want a this post to keeps bumping up..

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TheRichJerksNet

15 years ago

Why is this thread still here.. Allen please close this scamming mlm thread..

James

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Cash Blasters Online

15 years ago

Tons of solid info here........so I'll just say hi to everyone and see you next week.

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Adam Kenzington

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Spiderwebsystemsuccess

When i joined this forum i tried to change the user name but i don't know how.

You don't change it, you just create a new one. The old one will still be there. When I first joined this forum, I had a different user name. Someone had posted something that was self-promoting about a product they sold. They got "FLAMED"! I made my first post there, telling people about another product that I had no vested interest in (and did not sell). I was just making the point that it was cheaper and much better than what the other guy was promoting. Guess who got flamed, then? (The whole thread ended up getting deleted).

So I laid back, licked my wounds and lurked for awhile. Once I got some understanding of the rules of life, here, I created a new user name (my name, not some "handle" nickname) and became a productive member. My old ID is still out there, somewhere, with 1 post to it's credit. I'll never use that one again. (Maybe there is some way to unsubscribe that ID. I don't know. I'll have to look into that.)

I must admit i do get very frustrated with forums thats why i don't post on forums very often but i thought i had some value to add to this post, then i get bagged by people who have no idea about the system and have never used it ???

I don't understand why these people feel they need to bag other users for their opinion, my opinion and posts ( that were deleted ) added much more value to this post than they did.

This goes back to my story of my first post with my old ID. I didn't get it. There are rules of conduct to be observed. Rule #1. Stay on topic with the thread and the forum in general.

This forum is dedicated to Internet Marketing. Making your own product to sell, or selling an Affiliate product, or Creating Websites, Sales Pages & copy, etc... It's about making money by offering something of value. What it is not, is promoting junk (which some [not all] can be found on the WSO offers) It has to be value-rich content. It also isn't about MLM. There are separate forums addressing that.

We have an exclusive club (that anyone is welcome to join and learn from

), but you will get people's "Knickers in a Knot" when you start promoting things off topic to the forum. It wasn't too bad when you made your first reply. After all, the thread was started by asking about Your product. The problem came when you kept coming back with the "further clarification" and scolding us for "bagging" your product without fully understanding what it was all about. What you failed to see was that the bagging was coming because you were promoting in a place and on a forum where this was not only off topic, but off limits. The problem was less about your product than about you posting comments (repeatedly) in a forum that was not intended for such discussion.

I'm telling you, if you read the posts from different threads, you will learn alot of information for free that you would have to pay thousands of dollars to get from schooling, seminars, and the like. You will even learn things that will apply to the better marketing of your MLM products.

Take it, use it, and when you have something useful to say on the Internet Marketing topic, chime in and tell us what you know. Man, we're eagar to learn, and quick to say thank you.

So, come on and join in. I promise you no one will hate you for more than a week or so

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nicholasb

15 years ago

I have checked it out and it seem very interesting, and very profitable, the only problem is they use the word free a million times but when it comes to setting up your 22 income streams you do have to pay something so it turned me off, they should of came right out with the truth.

I dont doubt the system works I actually see a lot of potential.