The curse of the 0 second visitors...

Matt Gannon · 10-13-2009, 01:57 PM

Well iv had my site up not for a few months iv had about 200 visitors since August 16th tell today.

Almost every person that has come to the site stays for zero seconds, the majority of my traffic comes from submitting articles from eza, and i'm starting to get some search engine traffic. I'm within the top 10 pages for my keywords and trying to move them to page one.

I think what my problem is, is that I just plain suck at making pre-sell pages, and review pages. No one sticks around on the site long enough. This is not the site in my sig, its different.

I have a site promoting a product from market heath. Any tips or tutorials anyone know of for writing up a good review or pre-sell page? I know I can get the traffic but it just seems like I cant convert it into $$.

Matt G

Kurt · 10-13-2009, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Gannon

Well iv had my site up not for a few months iv had about 200 visitors since August 16th tell today.

Almost every person that has come to the site stays for zero seconds, the majority of my traffic comes from submitting articles from eza, and i'm starting to get some search engine traffic. I'm within the top 10 pages for my keywords and trying to move them to page one.

I think what my problem is, is that I just plain suck at making pre-sell pages, and review pages. No one sticks around on the site long enough. This is not the site in my sig, its different.

I have a site promoting a product from market heath. Any tips or tutorials anyone know of for writing up a good review or pre-sell page? I know I can get the traffic but it just seems like I cant convert it into $$.

Matt G

Sounds like these are spiders and not real people?

Matt Gannon · 10-13-2009, 02:08 PM

no most of the traffic is from EzineArticles about 90% of it, so I dont think they are spiders. Also most of the traffic is from the past 2 weeks from my article writing. about 150 of them are from my articles from the past 2 weeks.

WhamSoft · 10-13-2009, 02:10 PM

What is the domain you're having problems with?

Matt Gannon · 10-13-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by WhamSoft

What is the domain you're having problems with?

It's not a domain problem, I just was asking for help because my "money page" does not seem to keep visitors reading and buying.

It seems to be my only flaw as of now. Iv learned seo, and traffic generation. Now I just need to learn this one crucial part.

Matt Gannon · 10-13-2009, 03:02 PM

no helpful info for me?

Maybe ill just keep making new money pages and testing them.

Alexa Smith · 10-13-2009, 03:23 PM

We've had other very similar conversations, in the past. I believe it normally turns out that the monitoring/timing-system isn't functioning properly. Good luck!

bgmacaw · 10-13-2009, 03:25 PM

It sounds like a 'bot to me as well. I have a particularly annoying one called exabot that would consume bandwidth like crazy and I had to eventually IP ban it when robots.txt didn't keep it out.

What are you using to view stats? I recommend using StatCounter and/or Google Analytics so that you can have a lot of info about your visitors at your fingertips.

Matt Gannon · 10-13-2009, 03:27 PM

I do not believe its a bot iv looked threw my statcounter, there all diff locations. iv had 20 unique visitors today and the longest stay is 44 seconds..

I use statcounter and google analytics.

Would anyone like to critique my page? If so pm me.

Thanks

Matt G.

Don Schenk · 10-13-2009, 03:50 PM

What is the "hook" from your headline to bring readers into the copy?

What is the first sentence? What is the second paragraph?

When I've had really poor response it's always been my copy. Even to test 5,000 pieces in direct mail has some cost. At least with the web we have quicker, less costly means of testing. Have you tried rotating several headlines in Adwords as a test? Or have you tested rotating two different home pages?

:-Don

Nelson Guedes · 10-13-2009, 03:56 PM

Hello Matt,

Could you show us your page? Maybe that will help us determine whether it is a conversion problem or a technical problem of some kind. I will gladly give you my 2 cents on it.

Cheers,,
Nelson

EDIT: Ah, I missed that last post there. I will PM you, if you prefer that...

Matt Gannon · 10-13-2009, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Schenk

What is the "hook" from your headline to bring readers into the copy?

What is the first sentence? What is the second paragraph?

When I've had really poor response it's always been my copy. Even to test 5,000 pieces in direct mail has some cost. At least with the web we have quicker, less costly means of testing. Have you tried rotating several headlines in Adwords as a test? Or have you tested rotating two different home pages?

:-Don

I am not using adwords, as i am not working and I am very broke. I guess its a review type page so my headline just basically says Below are to reviews of two great products... I guess I should work on the headline a bit. The products are also so closely related that the reviews sound almost the same.

Steven Fullman · 10-13-2009, 04:32 PM

Matt,

Are you looking at AWStats?

Steve

Matt Gannon · 10-13-2009, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven Fullman

Matt,

Are you looking at AWStats?

Steve

No I have not looked at AWStats, should I be?

Matt G.

Steven Fullman · 10-13-2009, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Gannon

No I have not looked at AWStats, should I be?

Matt G.

Absolutely not...it's notorious for showing 0 second visits.

I'm thinking your stats counter (statcounter.com?) is including requests for "included" files...such as css, js, etc...as other visitors.

I've seen it myself...but only with AWStats...every server request is treated as a new visit. Utterly ridiculous.

Matt Gannon · 10-13-2009, 05:16 PM

I got some advice, I Just need better Headers and a few other changes. Thanks to everyone who gave advice. Hopefully I can keep ppl on my page and get them to click affiliate links.

10-13-2009, 01:57 PM	#1
Matt Gannon HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hudson, NH Posts: 321 Thanks: 99 Thanked 25 Times in 17 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	The curse of the 0 second visitors... Well iv had my site up not for a few months iv had about 200 visitors since August 16th tell today. Almost every person that has come to the site stays for zero seconds, the majority of my traffic comes from submitting articles from eza, and i'm starting to get some search engine traffic. I'm within the top 10 pages for my keywords and trying to move them to page one. I think what my problem is, is that I just plain suck at making pre-sell pages, and review pages. No one sticks around on the site long enough. This is not the site in my sig, its different. I have a site promoting a product from market heath. Any tips or tutorials anyone know of for writing up a good review or pre-sell page? I know I can get the traffic but it just seems like I cant convert it into $$. Matt G
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10-13-2009, 02:08 PM	#3
Matt Gannon HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hudson, NH Posts: 321 Thanks: 99 Thanked 25 Times in 17 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: The curse of the 0 second visitors... no most of the traffic is from EzineArticles about 90% of it, so I dont think they are spiders. Also most of the traffic is from the past 2 weeks from my article writing. about 150 of them are from my articles from the past 2 weeks.
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10-13-2009, 02:10 PM	#4
WhamSoft HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: UK Posts: 370 Thanks: 53 Thanked 38 Times in 36 Posts Social Networking	Re: The curse of the 0 second visitors... What is the domain you're having problems with?

10-13-2009, 03:02 PM	#6
Matt Gannon HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hudson, NH Posts: 321 Thanks: 99 Thanked 25 Times in 17 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: The curse of the 0 second visitors... no helpful info for me? Maybe ill just keep making new money pages and testing them.
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10-13-2009, 03:23 PM	#7
Alexa Smith Wordsmith (& Skepchick) War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 15,341 Thanks: 8,713 Thanked 11,469 Times in 5,829 Posts	Re: The curse of the 0 second visitors... We've had other very similar conversations, in the past. I believe it normally turns out that the monitoring/timing-system isn't functioning properly. Good luck!
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10-13-2009, 03:25 PM	#8
bgmacaw Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Atlanta GA Metro Area, USA. Posts: 3,643 Blog Entries: 5 Thanks: 309 Thanked 922 Times in 642 Posts Social Networking	Re: The curse of the 0 second visitors... It sounds like a 'bot to me as well. I have a particularly annoying one called exabot that would consume bandwidth like crazy and I had to eventually IP ban it when robots.txt didn't keep it out. What are you using to view stats? I recommend using StatCounter and/or Google Analytics so that you can have a lot of info about your visitors at your fingertips.
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10-13-2009, 03:27 PM	#9
Matt Gannon HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hudson, NH Posts: 321 Thanks: 99 Thanked 25 Times in 17 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: The curse of the 0 second visitors... I do not believe its a bot iv looked threw my statcounter, there all diff locations. iv had 20 unique visitors today and the longest stay is 44 seconds.. I use statcounter and google analytics. Would anyone like to critique my page? If so pm me. Thanks Matt G.
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10-13-2009, 03:50 PM	#10
Don Schenk Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH and beautiful Park City, UT Posts: 1,697 Thanks: 849 Thanked 534 Times in 351 Posts	Re: The curse of the 0 second visitors... What is the "hook" from your headline to bring readers into the copy? What is the first sentence? What is the second paragraph? When I've had really poor response it's always been my copy. Even to test 5,000 pieces in direct mail has some cost. At least with the web we have quicker, less costly means of testing. Have you tried rotating several headlines in Adwords as a test? Or have you tested rotating two different home pages? :-Don
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10-13-2009, 03:56 PM	#11
Nelson Guedes Active Warrior Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 42 Thanks: 8 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Social Networking	Re: The curse of the 0 second visitors... Hello Matt, Could you show us your page? Maybe that will help us determine whether it is a conversion problem or a technical problem of some kind. I will gladly give you my 2 cents on it. Cheers,, Nelson EDIT: Ah, I missed that last post there. I will PM you, if you prefer that...
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10-13-2009, 04:32 PM	#13
Steven Fullman Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London, England Posts: 3,798 Thanks: 1,014 Thanked 536 Times in 345 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: The curse of the 0 second visitors... Matt, Are you looking at AWStats? Steve
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10-13-2009, 05:16 PM	#16
Matt Gannon HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hudson, NH Posts: 321 Thanks: 99 Thanked 25 Times in 17 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: The curse of the 0 second visitors... I got some advice, I Just need better Headers and a few other changes. Thanks to everyone who gave advice. Hopefully I can keep ppl on my page and get them to click affiliate links.
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