If google can do sidewiki, why can't someone (also) do this?...

TimothyW · 10-13-2009, 08:12 PM

I see the domain name for this idea was taken 4 years ago -- so, I guess it's ok to tell the idea here.

It's emailwiki.

It would be waaaay more evil + intrusive than sidewiki.

You type in an email address -- and anyone/everyone's "comments" about that person (or company) appear -- or, if there aren't any comments about that person yet, you can add a comment to the wiki.

It would be exactly like side wiki -- a communal comment page -- but for email addresses. The "privacy" issue would be taken care of by having the database of (already) commented-upon email addresses NOT be browesable (meaning, if you did not already KNOW that the email address in question already existed, you would not be able to find it via browsing the database of email addresses).

emailwiki.

I betcha it's not too far off -- if it doesn't ALREADY exist!

The same laws that "allow" google to do sidewiki would also apply to "emailwiki."

Personally, I'm hoping the law will STRIKE DOWN sidewiki (+ emailwiki, if it ever becomes reality).

-- TW

timpears · 10-13-2009, 08:26 PM

From the first day I heard about Sidewiki, I thought that it sounded like they were either breaking some laws or infringing on someone's rights. I can not in my wildest dreams, see how that product is legal. And I hope that someone puts a stop to it soon.

Michael Taylor · 10-14-2009, 12:44 AM

But it's not illegal. It's part of a toolbar. They're not going into your server and injecting foreign code into your site.

The Sidewiki is a function of the toolbar and that's it. You may not like it, but that doesn't make it unethical, illegal, or wrong.

TimothyW · 10-14-2009, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Taylor

The Sidewiki is a function of the toolbar and that's it. You may not like it, but that doesn't make it unethical, illegal, or wrong.

Time will tell.

Fernando Veloso · 10-14-2009, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Taylor

The Sidewiki is a function of the toolbar and that's it. You may not like it, but that doesn't make it unethical, illegal, or wrong.

Sidewiki allows me to pay 100 guys to spam YOUR site with defamations.

SINCE the regular web user does not know what's a freaking toolbar or a wiki they see it as a authority (Google) telling them YOU ARE something i bet you don't like.

And this is the problem.

Well, not you but your site

DogScout · 10-14-2009, 07:40 AM

Sidewiki allows me to pay 100 guys to leave un-disclosed testimonials at my site and I can let the FTC talk to Google about the violations

Fernando Veloso · 10-14-2009, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DogScout

Sidewiki allows me to pay 100 guys to leave un-disclosed testimonials at my site and I can let the FTC talk to Google about the violations

Now that can put them into trouble.

zapseo · 10-14-2009, 11:32 AM

What stops someone else?

My guess?

Bandwidth. Server resources.

There are other companies that might compete in this space (Amazon comes to mind, what with their s3, cloud computing resources.) -- but it still will be a limited number.

I don't seem to run a google toolbar (I try to limit the number of toolbars I use -- toolbars, by themselves, are actually quite a bit of a security risk. To give you some idea, you should check out this video:

YouTube - Google Adsense: $1,028,418.80 In One...

ANY toolbar, and ANY firefox extension, can screw with your page in the same way as you see in this video.

That's why things like the firefox extension AdBlock exist. Or the ones that stop the autoplay of videos (God Bless Them!)

There's a reason why mozilla reminds you that you should only download extensions/toolbars/etc from people you trust. They might access a javascript from a remote site. That could be changed, at will, on the remote site. Maybe even make it so the script "rotates", so the "bad" code only runs occasionally, so it keeps it from being detected.)

Anway -- where were we? what stops others from starting a sidewiki -- resources.

Live JoyFully!

Judy

TimothyW · 10-14-2009, 11:53 AM

Judy -- what's your take on the sidewiki blockers? Eventually, will there be blocker-blockers? (etc.)

-- TW

PS: What does that video have to do with this topic? I don't get the connection.

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TimothyW Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 1,138 Thanks: 252 Thanked 88 Times in 71 Posts	If google can do sidewiki, why can't someone (also) do this?... I see the domain name for this idea was taken 4 years ago -- so, I guess it's ok to tell the idea here. It's emailwiki. It would be waaaay more evil + intrusive than sidewiki. You type in an email address -- and anyone/everyone's "comments" about that person (or company) appear -- or, if there aren't any comments about that person yet, you can add a comment to the wiki. It would be exactly like side wiki -- a communal comment page -- but for email addresses. The "privacy" issue would be taken care of by having the database of (already) commented-upon email addresses NOT be browesable (meaning, if you did not already KNOW that the email address in question already existed, you would not be able to find it via browsing the database of email addresses). emailwiki. I betcha it's not too far off -- if it doesn't ALREADY exist! The same laws that "allow" google to do sidewiki would also apply to "emailwiki." Personally, I'm hoping the law will STRIKE DOWN sidewiki (+ emailwiki, if it ever becomes reality). -- TW
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