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Old 10-13-2009, 09:23 PM   #1
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So I just outsourced some article rewrites and so far I am not to happy.

All the articles are under 500 words. I want to be able to copy the whole article in some software and check the percentage the same/difference.

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Old 10-13-2009, 09:25 PM   #2
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Copyscape Plagiarism Checker - Duplicate Content Detection Software

Why aren't you happy with the articles?
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Copyscape is good for doing really rough and ready checking of your content to see if they are unique.

But it is very easy to fake uniqueness in Copyscape, but its a lot harder to fool the search engines. So you may think that your content is unique but it may not be.

Search the web for unique content spoofing and you will find many examples

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Thanks for your responses Bruce And Marcel.

I am not happy because the articles look pretty much the same so far.

I am trying to save time using the software which I was asking about at first.

I just found and downloaded Dupe Free Pro. Havent tried it yet, I am about to though.
Anyone have any experience/tips for this software?

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You need software to check for duplications - its called DupeFree Pro. Its free download. If you search for it you will find it.

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What do you mean by "they pretty much look the same"

Do you mean the articles you hold in your hands are almost the same? If that's the case maybe they spun those articles from a single seed.

How much did you pay for them anyway?

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Do a search for Dupe Cop, it's free and allows you to compare to pieces of text, in other words, 2 articles to compare how similar they are with regards to each other.

The thing that I'm a bit iffy about in terms of dupe cop is that it compares similarity in terms of exact word matches, however the wording or the content could be completely unique.

I remember writing a weight loss article then I re-wrote another article from the original, in dupe cop it was 50% similar.

Now, when I wrote a completely different article, still within the weight loss arena but based around a completely different sub niche and I compared this new article with the unrelated first article, it was still 50% similar.

So, dupe cop is only a rough estimation but lacks the sensitivity to acknowledge that the content makes it unique. Just because I happened to have "weight loss" terms in common between the 2 completely unrelated articles, it still viewed them as a match.

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Download free software, for you to verify and check your article for duplicate contents.
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Your articles all look the same... Do you write the titles for your outsourcers? I've found that specific titles help.

For instance, your outsourcer may write two articles:
*** "The 5 Ways to a Flatter Stomach" and
*** "Ways To Flatten Your Stomach".

These could contain much of the same information (the former being more structured, though).


Titles that would guide the information in more distinct directions:
*** "The 5 Ways to a Flatter Stomach"
*** "Abdominal Fat: How Habits You Picked Up as a Child Are Costing You NOW"

I hope this helps...
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Try this simple method...
Highlight first line of the first sentence of the article, then copy and paste into Google search. If you see exactly same sentence / words there, means have duplicate content. Then, you can try second sentence and last sentence. Just copy and paste only. Hope help.
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I have outsourced article writing for a very long time and at the beginning it took me a while to find someone decent who provided me with unique content, I guess sometimes ya gotta keep looking

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Wow!

Thanks for all your responses.

I downloaded Dupe free Pro and I was really impressed with it. I would recommend anyone who reads this thread to try it if you have similar needs.
It looks as though it has LSI and Keyword Density Features as well.

The 3 articles he sent had duplicate content percentages as follows:
60%
77%
62%

Not good. He apologized. And we had some issues and problems at first, but after some heavy PMing we have it resolved. I think...

He is doing a partial refund and completing the original order.
He asked for my pay pal to give the partial refund, I gave it to him and he sent it.

I noticed Pay Pal charged a fee.

Then I noticed that he could have just issued a partial refund from my original payment.

Did he do it that way to avoid a fee on his end, and pass the fee to me?
anyone?



Marcel That is a usefull tip. Give distinct directions in outsourcing your article rewrites. I like it.
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:42 AM   #13
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I think copyscape sucks a bit.
I have a better tool.

I use Plagium.com or Plagiarismdetect.com

Both are free. Plagium returns FAR more accurate results than copyscape.


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Try copyscape, it will show you if your article has duplicate content

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Hi
I tried Plagium.com - perfect tool
btw when register in Plagiarismdetect.com what is the next step. It says that I have to pay 14 USD to use it. Is it free or not?
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Try this simple method...
Highlight first line of the first sentence of the article, then copy and paste into Google search. If you see exactly same sentence / words there, means have duplicate content. Then, you can try second sentence and last sentence. Just copy and paste only. Hope help.
I'm using this method too..You may copy whole phararaph but put it in quotes, and you will see is there any same pharagraph
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You don't have to use plagiarismdetect.
Stick with plagium. It's free and yields far better results than copyscape.
The mere fact that you can copy and paste full articles into plagium makes it cool (because copyscape charges for the same service and yields crappier results)

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You are promoting the site in your sig? Oh please.

Use copyscape premium - it works!


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I've tried 10+ different plagiarism detection services/sites, both free and paid.

Each article I purchase, I put through the following procedure.

1) Copyscape.com
- seems to work ok at finding verbatim copies of words/phrases

2) Plagscan.com
- seems to work good at finding verbatim copies + also find out when entire paragraphs or the structure of an article have been "rewritten" = plagiarized. I've had multple cases where plagscan found the source of the plagiarized content where copyscape said everything was ok.

3) Grammarly.com
- seems to work ok at finding verbatim copies of words/phrases, but also gives a lot of false positives for me, so I use it mostly for the great grammar help.

EDIT: If you want to read more, here is a test of 26 plagiarism detection systems done at the end of 2010 by a professor at a german university:
http://plagiat.htw-berlin.de/software-en/2010-2/

They tested the systems from an education point of view, and no system got a better score than "partially useful".

I realize a lot may have happened since that, but based on that test and my own experience of running 1000+ articles through the three softwares/sites above, I guess I wonder why copyscape so often is mentioned as the industry standard on this forum.
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I've used Copyscape, Plagium and DupeFree and like all of them. I am sorry this is happening to you. Hopefully you can get it worked out with him, or find another writer that will be much better for you.

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Im good at content writing. Any one needs writer?
At least have some decency and don't write this in such a topic. If you want to promote yourself, spamming in off-topic forum is not the way...

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So I just outsourced some article rewrites and so far I am not to happy.

All the articles are under 500 words. I want to be able to copy the whole article in some software and check the percentage the same/difference.

THanks for your help
With the rewrites, the rewriting engine is only showing how the rewritten article compares to the original one. Most of the time it does not go out to the internet and check for uniqueness ratio comparing with the similar articles that already exist out there. I bet, if anyone would try to achieve 60% or more uniqueness over all currently published and available content, it would have a hard time to get to such number.

And the next problem, did you check how unique is actually your seeding article? If it's not original and 100% unique, achieving high rate of uniqueness of the rewrite is next to impossible - despite what the rewriting software tells you.

Last but not least, the % of content uniqueness is not the same as % of spun content. You may achieve a high percentage of spun content, but having such content on the internet may show as not unique enough.

For checking level of duplicating, all above mentioned tools work good. But.... they are not tools provided by the search engines, and their results may not prove if something is or isn't going to rank due to higher or lower level of uniqueness or dupes.
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Doubtless many will (and do) think me rather pedantic - and I'll plead guilty to that - but it's actually quite an important point, and so widely misunderstood that it is worth mentioning: all of the information in this thread is about checking for "previously published content", not for "duplicate content".

"Content duplicated" isn't at all the same thing as "duplicate content".

"Duplicate content", both from Google's perspective and from that of article marketers and content syndicators, means multiple copies of the same content within one domain: content duplicated across domains isn't "duplicate content". Article Marketers – Lay the Duplicate Content Myth To Rest Once and For All - Internet Marketing and Publishing Blog

I appreciate, of course, that when you've bought an article, and understandably and wisely want to check, before publishing it on your website, that none of it has previously been published, the methods mentioned above are perfectly good and valid ones - but don't imagine that what you're doing, under these circumstances, is any kind of "duplicate content test", because it simply isn't.

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Try this simple method...
Highlight first line of the first sentence of the article, then copy and paste into Google search. If you see exactly same sentence / words there, means have duplicate content. Then, you can try second sentence and last sentence. Just copy and paste only. Hope help.
That's not enough. The first sentence or first paragraph is often replaced to make it look as if the article is original so it's more effective to select 15 - 20 words at random from different parts of the article. To be thorough I would normally try 5 or 6 sections of the article and first look for unusual phrases within an article to check.
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To be thorough I would normally try 5 or 6 sections of the article and first look for unusual phrases within an article to check.
This. "Unusual phrases" can be particularly helpful.

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