newbie bum marketing question

mamba · 10-14-2009, 07:48 AM

on travis sago's bum marketing site it says "Only 613 results...HOLY COW...I guarantee that if you wrote an article, ad or message on "how to train your dog to stop barking"...depending on where you post it to...you are going to show up on the first page of Google within 2 days to 2 weeks...for FREE"

i'm a complete newbie so this probably has a really obvious answer, but what exactly changes during the 2 weeks to make your article go onto the first page when it wasn't beforehand?

waken · 10-14-2009, 08:13 AM

Your article with that keyword added into the SE database. That's what changed.

mamba · 10-14-2009, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by waken

Your article with that keyword added into the SE database. That's what changed.

isn't it added to the search engine database as soon as it is created? why does it take 2 weeks for it to get to the first page?

kb24 · 10-14-2009, 10:39 AM

depending where you post it to. I know e-zine takes a while before articles get approved.

mamba · 10-15-2009, 01:52 AM

so to be clear, in travis' bum marketing, i'm not required to be creating backlinks to my articles? and no one else needs to either? my article will just appear on the first page of google as soon as it is added to the database because the title is targetted to a search phrase with a small number of optimized results? i feel like it can't be this easy and that i'm missing something.

J smith · 10-15-2009, 02:00 AM

It depends on your keywords, an article is no different than any other page on any website. it's just that good article directories have high page rank, millions of backlinks (not to your page obviously, but it still helps) and are in dmoz and yahoo directories (many of them at least) as such an article on EA will rank higher than if you posted it on a bran new site/blog.

However keywords and competition is what determines if you will be on page one or not and how much work you'll have to do to get there. If you are targeting "play poker" you will probably never see your article on page 1 (unless you link build the crap out of it for years) where as a keyword with low competition allows you to rank on page 1 just on the strenght of the article directory and keyword optimization of your article.

Also, google may not find your article right away (and some directories take a bit to get an article approved and published)

actionplanbiz · 10-15-2009, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mamba

so to be clear, in travis' bum marketing, i'm not required to be creating backlinks to my articles? and no one else needs to either? my article will just appear on the first page of google as soon as it is added to the database because the title is targetted to a search phrase with a small number of optimized results? i feel like it can't be this easy and that i'm missing something.

I think Travis meant if you are competing only against "600" webpages for that keyword. you can definetely dominate that keyword with one article to a high PR site.

But its always good policy to social book mark everything you do. webpages, videos, articles. which is the bread and butter of distributing your stuff

mamba · 10-17-2009, 01:45 AM

alright thanks that makes sense

edmltw · 10-17-2009, 02:23 PM

Internet Marketing is a process, not an one day success miracle. Two weeks is short enough a period of time to get to the front pages of the big gorilla Google. Be patient, you will see the results in about a month's time.

Alexa Smith · 10-17-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mamba

"Only 613 results...HOLY COW...I guarantee that if you wrote an article, ad or message on "how to train your dog to stop barking"...depending on where you post it to...you are going to show up on the first page of Google within 2 days to 2 weeks...for FREE"

If there are only 613 other results listed for that search term, yes. Just by being "new".

To show up on the first page of Google isn't so difficult. To show up there for search terms that measurable numbers of people are actually looking for is a different matter.

bingitbaby · 10-21-2009, 10:00 PM

Search engines love article sites. In fact they love them so much they crawl them about every 6 hours or so for new content. When you post an article and add your SEO keywords to the article and a link to your site the search engines will pick that up and index that article for those keywords within 48 hours.

The trick is to use keywords that are not indexed as much. If you pick a keyword that has tens of millions of indexed pages it will not likely move to the top that quick, however if you pick a keyword that has just a million or less indexed pages, your chances of being near the top or even number 1 are greatly increased. And that can all happen within 48 hours or less in most cases.

10-14-2009, 07:48 AM	#1
mamba Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	newbie bum marketing question on travis sago's bum marketing site it says "Only 613 results...HOLY COW...I guarantee that if you wrote an article, ad or message on "how to train your dog to stop barking"...depending on where you post it to...you are going to show up on the first page of Google within 2 days to 2 weeks...for FREE" i'm a complete newbie so this probably has a really obvious answer, but what exactly changes during the 2 weeks to make your article go onto the first page when it wasn't beforehand?

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waken Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,206 Thanks: 52 Thanked 59 Times in 49 Posts	Re: newbie bum marketing question Your article with that keyword added into the SE database. That's what changed.
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kb24 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 366 Thanks: 103 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Re: newbie bum marketing question depending where you post it to. I know e-zine takes a while before articles get approved.

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mamba Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: newbie bum marketing question so to be clear, in travis' bum marketing, i'm not required to be creating backlinks to my articles? and no one else needs to either? my article will just appear on the first page of google as soon as it is added to the database because the title is targetted to a search phrase with a small number of optimized results? i feel like it can't be this easy and that i'm missing something.

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J smith HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: , , USA. Posts: 301 Thanks: 8 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts	Re: newbie bum marketing question It depends on your keywords, an article is no different than any other page on any website. it's just that good article directories have high page rank, millions of backlinks (not to your page obviously, but it still helps) and are in dmoz and yahoo directories (many of them at least) as such an article on EA will rank higher than if you posted it on a bran new site/blog. However keywords and competition is what determines if you will be on page one or not and how much work you'll have to do to get there. If you are targeting "play poker" you will probably never see your article on page 1 (unless you link build the crap out of it for years) where as a keyword with low competition allows you to rank on page 1 just on the strenght of the article directory and keyword optimization of your article. Also, google may not find your article right away (and some directories take a bit to get an article approved and published)

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