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Old 10-14-2009, 05:59 PM   #51
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I've got a better idea. Set up 100 WordPress blogs a day, each optimized to promote a different Clickbank Marketing & Ads product, and get 100 PR 5+ backlinks per day for each. Doing this would get you a lot more sales than just writing 100 articles a day, of course...
Very good point there, Mike.

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Accrasial,

Did you just come from a self-development/enrichment seminar or something?

Allen

Nope, I just don't see why everyone doesn't believe it's possible for themselves, and the negativity here is endless. But Allen, you too, said you COULD do it. So now we have a few people who CAN, but it's then a choice to do it or not, as you said.

That's all I had to say on those lines, and you helped it along too.

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I've got a better idea. Set up 100 WordPress blogs a day, each optimized to promote a different Clickbank Marketing & Ads product, and get 100 PR 5+ backlinks per day for each. Doing this would get you a lot more sales than just writing 100 articles a day, of course...


So you think it's possible, it seems? Sure is a fantastic idea, and now this thread is turning into something.

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Man...

Imagine overtaking Sean Mize in 6 months...from a standing start

At a push, I could write 100 sentences a day - for about 3 days - before I turned into Jack Nicholson in "The Shining".

But that's just me.


So it also seems as if that is a dream that you have- which you think isn't easily made possible. Of course it's not easy, that guy is on top of his game, but you can be too! But you sure can push yourself, that is true.

It isn't you, only because you don't want to get out of that comfort zone to actually try and do something different. What you are doing now works for you, and gets you enough so that you can stay Comfortable... which is why you don't really want to push yourself to do anything further.

I understand that, but I would still love to see you push yourself. No one said it was forever, it was a challenge... challenges end.
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I think the bigger point is what do you expect to accomplish writing this many articles. I can write one or two and make hundreds if I do it right. The goal is to offer real solutions to real problems and the money will follow if people find what you're offering to be worth more then the money in their pocket. What I typically do is write 3-5 articles around a keyword I have researched. I then market them to see which one get a good response. I then outsource backlink building to that article to get it ranking on the front page. The other articles I might use in an autoresponder series to market to my list. Even if I wrote 100 articles in a day I would use them for other purposes and not for article directories.

Mock my words, I will be a millionaire someday or die trying. I'll do it by doing what others don't won't or can't.
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I think the bigger point is what do you expect to accomplish writing this many articles. I can write one or two and make hundreds if I do it right. The goal is to offer real solutions to real problems and the money will follow if people find what you're offering to be worth more then the money in their pocket. What I typically do is write 3-5 articles around a keyword I have researched. I then market them to see which one get a good response. I then outsource backlink building to that article to get it ranking on the front page. The other articles I might use in an autoresponder series to market to my list. Even if I wrote 100 articles in a day I would use them for other purposes and not for article directories.

Now that is some effective brainstorming- so why not do it then? Certainly there can be some use for even just a FEW MORE articles, doesn't even have to be 100. Could be 25, or 50, or even just 15 more articles than you normally do.

Maybe it still takes one more time, but imagine if each article was e-book quality (yes, maybe it would take you some time for each article), but then you could compile that into a book and offer it somewhere too!
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I've got a better idea. Set up 100 WordPress blogs a day, each optimized to promote a different Clickbank Marketing & Ads product, and get 100 PR 5+ backlinks per day for each. Doing this would get you a lot more sales than just writing 100 articles a day, of course...
OR...

Set up 10 Wordpress blogs a day.

Write 10 articles for each.

After 7 days, you have 70 blogs, each with 10 articles.

Let's say (conservatively) you flip each blog for $200.00

That's fourteen grand in your first week...!

Take that 14 grand, and double your business. In week 2, you create another 70 blogs (700 articles)... PLUS you pay some one else to create ANOTHER 70 blogs for you.

Result: Week 2 - $28k

Rince and repeat.

You can retire after ~ 6 weeks.



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OR...

Set up 10 Wordpress blogs a day.

Write 10 articles for each.

After 7 days, you have 70 blogs, each with 10 articles.

Let's say (conservatively) you flip each blog for $200.00

That's fourteen grand in your first week...!

Take that 14 grand, and double your business. In week 2, you create another 70 blogs (700 articles)... PLUS you pay some one else to create ANOTHER 70 blogs for you.

Result: Week 2 - $28k

Rince and repeat.

You can retire after ~ 6 weeks.



Steve

SEE how you can damn turn this thread into a positive one? I'm so happy!

Let's see it then, lots of good ideas churning out now, from one crazy sounding challenge. That's an awesome idea, are you going to do it?
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Only 700? I write 700 articles a day, not per week

Seriously though.. it would be possible. If you take 70 articles and spin them 10 times each and then submit that mass produced goobly goop to low quality directories.

You won't see any results, but hey at least you'll succeed in this challenge. LOL

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OR...

Set up 10 Wordpress blogs a day.

Write 10 articles for each.

After 7 days, you have 70 blogs, each with 10 articles.

Let's say (conservatively) you flip each blog for $200.00

That's fourteen grand in your first week...!

Take that 14 grand, and double your business. In week 2, you create another 70 blogs (700 articles)... PLUS you pay some one else to create ANOTHER 70 blogs for you.

Result: Week 2 - $28k

Rince and repeat.

You can retire after ~ 6 weeks.



Steve
You have no idea how realistic it is to do what you just mentioned. The only thing I would say is to add a custom niche header with proper plug-ins. Put a little bit of work into ranking some of those articles, you can use odesk to hire someone to build links to your homepage for your keyword. Forget adsense, once you have traffic build a mini newsletter with some of your extra content to get subscribers. You can even use the wordpress membership technique to make it into a membership site. After you've done all this hold it for a month and then sell them for hundreds. I plan on doing this very soon.

Mock my words, I will be a millionaire someday or die trying. I'll do it by doing what others don't won't or can't.
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Not advisable as this type of "keep us updated" thread is often deleted here.
Out of curiosity - why is this? There was one such thread a few days ago, where the OP asked us to state our goals and what tasks we were going to complete each day. I spent 10 mins typing a post and when I clicked 'submit reply' I got 'no valid link specified' I'm not saying these deletions are right or wrong, I'm just wondering why

It's funny, but a couple of days ago I was thinking kind of along the lines of this thread. I was questioning just how hard it's possible to push ourselves to get the results we crave. I was thinking of doing a one off 50 articles a day challenge, just to see if I could do it Compared to the OP here, that was a pretty lazy plan though

acrasial - I think you have a fantastic attitude. I like that the word 'can't' doesn't seem to be in your vocabulary, and that's something we should all strive for

I actually am embarking(I had decided this before I seen this thread) on a little article challenge of my own tomorrow. I put together a new site today on a variety of different subjects under one main niche, and I'm going to write and submit 10 articles to drive traffic to it and really test the site and the products/offers on there. My personal best before now is 9 in a day. Maybe one day I will push myself to try 100 in a day, but I'd have to lock myself away from my wife and son to do it. I'd be interested to see if I actually could do it, and at what cost to the quality of the articles and my own mentality. This thread was some great food for thought, despite(understandably so) most disagreeing with the content in the OP

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No. I value my sanity. But don't let that stop YOU from participating

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SEE how you can damn turn this thread into a positive one? I'm so happy!

Let's see it then, lots of good ideas churning out now, from one crazy sounding challenge. That's an awesome idea, are you going to do it?

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Well... I gotta admire your drive buddy; I mean you got real balls coming out with this... Seriously though… Think it through!!

Your hearts in the right place, so good on you - We all need goals...!


Please post some more!

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I used to do 30 to 60 articles a day.

Yes you read that right.

I did this for half a week before realizing, it is not a good idea.

Much better to do 3 articles a day and proper SEO on all of them, read article marketing 102 guide by Daniel Malono here, it's free and outlines all of this.
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Accrasial,

Did you just come from a self-development/enrichment seminar or something?

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hahahahahaha "accrasial" must be the OP's wife or sister..lmao

OK i agree with alot of people here in that 700 articles in 7 days is just totally ridiculous. If I was a newbie trying to get into IM and read that I would be looking elsewhere straight away.

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Must agree article marketing does generate cash, but if no one can do 100 articles a day even if they had KW research, Niche Research done. Best you could at a push I would say is 60 thats with 9hrs to spare for sleep and eating. 50 would be realistic, but maintaining that now thats another thing!!

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I won't comment on whether it is possible or not possible, but my God.....

Best of luck mate. Use Dragon Naturally Speaking


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I know many of you question whether or not Article Marketing Works, and if it does just how effective is it.

Article Marketing when done correctly is one of the most effective ways to do Affiliate Marketing. It is also a very easy way to drive laser targeted traffic to your website, blog or special offer.

So here is the challenge:

1. Choose A Niche: Health, Make Money, Entertainment Etc.

2. Write over 700 Articles in the next 7 days (no ghost writing).

3. Create a blog or website about the product or the niche your
promoting.

4. Publish your Articles to at least 3 article directories: Ezinearticles.com,
Goarticles.com and Ideamarketers.com

5. Post your progress as you go along. My aim here is to help you stay
focused and to also help you realize that Article Marketing does work.

6. The Reward You Finally Make Money Online.

You will be surprised at the success you will attain by sticking with this challenge.

I know this seems like a lot but it really isn't. If you think about it, how many hours do you spend surfing the internet for the magic formula that will become your automatic cash pulling machine? I bet if you should really keep track of the amount of time you waste searching for a quick answer, you'd realize that you could have spent that time writing some articles.

So here is how you'll break down writing your articles.

Firstly choose a broad keyword and then select keyword phrases that is relevant to your niche. Your Articles do not need to be long, it however needs to be attention grabbing and informative. Remember people on the internet search for specific information give them what they are looking for.

your articles can be about 500 words in lenght. You should be able to get your point across to your readers in 500 words. In my experince no one likes to read a 1000's page article. Remeber your article is not to sell to your readers but to provide quality information, which will lead them to seek more information from you as the idea is to have your visitors trust you as an expert in your chosen niche.

Writing 100 articles per day seems very difficult. however lets break it down into small increments.

Use your first 30 minutes finding keywords, and information about your niche. Now you will not be copying anyones writing as this is wrong and should not be done. However, what you will be using this information for is to gather knowledge about your niche.

Once you have read up about your niche you will write an article for each of your keywords from the top of your head. However, you will be writing with a purpose and that is to provide your readers with informative information. It is important that you have a structure to your writing. That means, an introduction, a body and a conclusion.

Be specific, concise yet infomative. After which call your readers to take action in a catchy way. This is very important as this is the action that will lead visitors to your website or blog. which will be promoting your affiliate product.


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I used to do 30 to 60 articles a day.

Yes you read that right.

I did this for half a week before realizing, it is not a good idea.

Much better to do 3 articles a day and proper SEO on all of them, read article marketing 102 guide by Daniel Malono here, it's free and outlines all of this.
I remember when I first got into IM I read a free report that said to write 30 articles a day for a month to make 150.00$a day. I was a noob at the time and bought DNS to do this. I now know I can write two or three articles a day to get to this same goal. Once I knew what the purpose was it made sense.

Mock my words, I will be a millionaire someday or die trying. I'll do it by doing what others don't won't or can't.
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I disagree, 100 articles a day is fully possible for anyone who wants to commit. It would take me about 14 hours per day, keeping in mind everything in this challenge... to complete this challenge, and while it would be working "over time", the point of the challenge was to do something most people cannot.

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Go for it! I guess you don't have any other responsibilities in life either? Geez there is no way!

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Acrasial, you seriously expect us to believe that you type 100 words per minute consistently and during that five whole minutes allotted to the article, can actually manage to create something people will want to read?

All day long, five minute articles that are readable and high quality?

That's complete B.S.

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You cant expect anyone to take the post about 700 articles in 7 days serious c'mon, and newbies?

Start small, try writing 3-5 a day and work up from there... The whole key is as long and you stick with it you will see results, so even if you can only submit 2-3 a day well at least in 30 days you will have close to 70 articles and ina few months a couple hundred.

1: Choose a niche
2: Select A product
3: Buy a domain
4: Setup a review site on a free blog if you dont have the skills, or hosting to setup one on a squeeze page
5: Install a opt in and grab some PLR articles turn it into a really cool free report and give it away for free
6: Start grabing a list of KW's you can rank for
7:Start off buy writing a few articles a day and submita unique article to a few top article directories
8: Once approved go back and bookmark them/Ping
9: Make sure your pointing all articles back to your review blog
10: Write 100 or so articles and track your stats, depending on how well your doing you can see wether or not to further your campaign If not setup a new system on another niche or keep going and the skies the limit

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You cant expect anyone to take the post about 700 articles in 7 days serious c'mon, and newbies?
Imagine this in my signature line:

"I wrote 700 articles in 7 days! And you can too!"

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Go for it! I guess you don't have any other responsibilities in life either? Geez there is no way!

I market articles= main source of income. Thus, I should really be going for it, as this is my "job".

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Imagine this in my signature line:

"I wrote 700 articles in 7 days! And you can too!"

I could imagine this, however since everyone is so damn skeptical and likes to instantly bash things- I doubt anyone would buy it anyways, nor would they be interested in it, by the sounds of it. I've had previous experience with this kind of thing... people just don't seem to like "thinking outside of the box", at least in a beneficial way. But I have seen a few people think outside the box with this challenge, and produce some ideas that it may be useful for, but more scaled down, which is great.

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You cant expect anyone to take the post about 700 articles in 7 days serious c'mon, and newbies?

Start small, try writing 3-5 a day and work up from there... The whole key is as long and you stick with it you will see results, so even if you can only submit 2-3 a day well at least in 30 days you will have close to 70 articles and ina few months a couple hundred.

Yup, it's true that alot of noobs will just give up, and will fail miserably at such a huge challenge. But are people really that thick, that they will just jump into something so huge, fail, and then think it can't be done?

I was told once that over 95% of the people who try this market fail, because they give up so early and so easily. They don't see the results that others have soon enough, so they just give up on themselves.

If that is the case, then I doubt it has anything to do with the methods, but rather the person's views of those methods and of themselves in general- because the chances are, if they take everything so literal and jump into a challenge like this and fail... and think it doesn't work then, well I can see them doing the same thing over and over and over, with other things as well, until they finally realize a few things, or just go back to their 9-5 job.


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And to everyone above me commenting on whether or not the O/P is a noob- how the heck does that even relate? Sure it's a crazy sounding challenge- sure they edited their post 3 hours later... and?

There are some things that a child knows, that his/her parents do not. Just because a child hasn't lived the 30+ years the parent has, that doesn't mean they don't know anything.

In fact, it's better to be like a child sometimes anyways, because children cannot see the failures or disbelief that adults seem to. This original post reminds me of that... there is a huge obstacle- and here are all the parents coming in telling the children that they cannot do this, and that it's stupid, and how retarded this challenge is...etc....

I doubt then, that anyone cares about the noobs or even really can direct anything towards noobs in the firstplace- except for those contributing ideas on how this challenge should actually be attempted, done, or used for noobs.

Remember that the teachers can be taught too, as can the "children".


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Yup, you are right, not everyone has to do everything the same way, in order to push themselves. What was being said here, in the first few posts... was basically that it couldn't be done at all.

Later it came out, what people can actually push themselves to do, and why they felt it wasn't right for them.... however without mentioning that, the first words out, were still negative ones just bashing, rather than suggesting how this could alternatively work.

I don't think our job as warriors is to simply bash what may seem impossible to us... imagine if that happened on every single thread? This forum wouldn't get very far either.... thankfully it doesn't happen all the time.

It's also interesting that you wanted to be an escort? ....? Also, it is true as well, that one should push themselves to do things which are beneficial, not harmful.

Avenue Girl pointed out to me, that there are some things that just take up so much effort, and can be done in less effort. I understand the idea of making things as smooth and easy as well- such as in the idea of "auto pilot".
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I sincerely hope some of the people in this thread never release a product in this market/industry.

I mean, okay, maybe some one can write 700 articles in 7 days. Okay, cool and kudos.

However, I cannot imagine that being in anyway enjoyable, even with such a positive outlook such as acraisal's. Yes, you could make some money from doing this (if the articles were of any quality).

Making Money:

As a 20 year-old ( 2 years ago at the time of writing) I thought it would be fun and interesting to research the possibility of being a male escort (not that I'd make an especially good one). I discovered I could make £250 ($500 at the time) an hour. I worked out I could meet ladies for 4 hours a day and make £1000 a day. On that maths, I could have made £3000 a day if I had done it for 12 hours!

If I did that a 100 days in a year, that would be £300,000 in income. This is something I could do and have the ability to do.

It was only after some more research that I discovered what kind of requests might be put my way, what kind of things would be expected of me.

What is more, did I really want to meet a lot of people who I didn't know and like etc, and put all my time, energy and life into pretending to find them fascinating and wonderful?

I concluded this was not a good way to invest my time, life and energies. I COULD do it, it was A LOT of money, but it was never something I could have done, for health, sanity and moral reasons!

My point is, there a lot of things you could do for money. You could push yourself to do some incredibly difficult and challenging things and you might profit from it, but money should not be the only goal.

You see, you could write 700 articles in 7 days, but I would prefer to enjoy some of that time. I'd prefer to interact with human beings, enjoy a nice meal, watch a good film and take some time out with the family. Does this mean I am not built for success? Does this mean I am not as ambitious or skilled as some one who writes 700 articles?

Not at all.

You see, I have this romantic notion that people looking to make money online do so, because they can, the opportunity excites them and they feel they have value to add to the marketplace.

I also like the idea of people running a business because they love the industry or business model they are involved with, not just because they get off looking at the clickbank bars moving further to the right-hand-side of the screen.

Just because some one doesn't do something, doesn't mean they aren't pushing themselves or being all they can be. To each their own.

I don't know if any of my reply has made sense. It's very late in the UK, and I feel this thread may have warped my thinking some as well. Anyway, I'll finish with a quote from one of the Greatest Brit's of all time:

"If you find something you really love, you will never work again." -- Winston Churchill.

"Better a student of reality than a master of illusion"

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I'm sorry, but I'm a REALLY fast typist. I can pump 400 word articles out at 10 minutes each and have them SEO. But this isn't a "crazy" challenge - it's stupid. I would have to type constantly for about 16 hours each day and that doesn't even count eating.

Acrasial is just making this thread a pain to read. At least it was funny at first.

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I'm sorry, but I'm a REALLY fast typist. I can pump 400 word articles out at 10 minutes each and have them SEO. But this isn't a "crazy" challenge - it's stupid. I would have to type constantly for about 16 hours each day and that doesn't even count eating.

Acrasial is just making this thread a pain to read. At least it was funny at first.

Well Go Ahead, kick me out of this thread- heck, kick me out of this forum, if you can.... as you seem to hate reading what I write, or suggest, or topics surrounding me.

Seems you can work very well as well, and that's great there's someone else who can in fact produce good articles in a short amount of time, as I had mentioned.

But I am not forcing you to read this, or my posts, nor am I forcing you to respond to me or anyone else.

I understand that over 50% of the posters above seem to be upset with me, that is fine, But I guess to you, bashing someone's post, and idea is really fun and amusing.

I don't find it amusing- and if this person is in fact a noob... how do you think you would feel, if you were in his/her position... having all of your ideas, dreams, ambitions and other goals bashed online by people... simply because they find it amusing?.. at least that was what you suggested about the first few posts after the O/P's post.

I think then, that everyone here has something better to do with their time, aside from the above, right? Thus, I tried to direct this into something positive- and for that, I am getting bashed too, because... I guess people think this thread is a waste of time?


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Typing speed aside - if you write 700 articles in 7 days, not only will they all be the same thing repeated over and over and over again, there's no chance in hell they would be approved by any respectable/worthwhile article directory.
True, I understand this as well. That is very true, and with EZA's new rule which heavily controls the submission of "rehashed content' as well as useless articles (low value content), it would make the above very difficult (writing many articles). I understand that as well, and you are definitely right about this, thus from that standpoint, I could agree that it may be ridiculous to ask anyone to write 700 articles in a short amount of time, and also write without compromising on the quality in the above manner.


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I sincerely believe, practice and preach that a single article a day can bring in just as much traffic and sales as 3 or 4...or 700.

So really it's your decision - type all day, without stopping for 16 hours, or leisurely write an article and spend the rest of the day doing whatever you please!

Maybe I'm crazy or stupid, but I choose the latter.
WHOA WHOA... back things up here- No one is calling anyone crazy or stupid here. I agree with you here Allen, and I don't think it's stupid to do the same amount of work with less. It's in fact smarter on many levels. I know people who do exactly what you say, and spend the rest of their day doing what they please- but obviously you have mastered this, whereas noobs have not.

Writing more for noobs (but ok, not 700) may help them to learn how to test their articles, as in what works and what does not, as well as give them experience in writing, alongside allotting for SEO practice, should they choose to learn it.

When someone is a noob, not everything they write can hit the search engines either, so they do need to learn how to write, so that search engines can love their articles; alongside the SEO, and I presume they will not know this directly upon the very first article they have written.

So now I want to ask you, Allen, how many articles did you write, before you finally mastered being able to just write a few, and properly SEO them, and have all of them achieve success?

I would like to ask the same question to anyone here?
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Typing speed aside - if you write 700 articles in 7 days, not only will they all be the same thing repeated over and over and over again, there's no chance in hell they would be approved by any respectable/worthwhile article directory - for that very reason.

I sincerely believe, practice and preach that a single article a day can bring in just as much traffic and sales as 3 or 4...or 700.

So really it's your decision - type all day, without stopping for 16 hours, or leisurely write an article and spend the rest of the day doing whatever you please!

Maybe I'm crazy or stupid, but I choose the latter.

And by the way - the rest of the OP is very sound and is actually great advice for a newbie. I'm only disagreeing with the obscene amount of articles he suggested.

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I agree, I have no problem with his idea nor anything else he posted, just the amount of articles he suggested. It could have been a real winning thread if he had put a reasonable number.

I also have nothing against you Acrasial - I'm just hungry

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I agree, I have no problem with his idea nor anything else he posted, just the amount of articles he suggested. It could have been a real winning thread if he had put a reasonable number.

I also have nothing against you Acrasial - I'm just hungry

So PM the guy and tell him to change the number, and ask him to read all the replies, to find out why... or maybe wait till he comes back online and reads all of these.

Maybe he was just sharing his goal, and wanted others to join in on the challenge... that's what I think it really was. But as others had mentioned as well, such kinds of posts/threads are often deleted... the progress ones.

So how many articles do you normally pump out per day, or you have moved on to bigger and better things?
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Yup, you are right, not everyone has to do everything the same way, in order to push themselves. What was being said here, in the first few posts... was basically that it couldn't be done at all.

Later it came out, what people can actually push themselves to do, and why they felt it wasn't right for them.... however without mentioning that, the first words out, were still negative ones just bashing, rather than suggesting how this could alternatively work.

I don't think our job as warriors is to simply bash what may seem impossible to us... imagine if that happened on every single thread? This forum wouldn't get very far either.... thankfully it doesn't happen all the time.

It's also interesting that you wanted to be an escort? ....? Also, it is true as well, that one should push themselves to do things which are beneficial, not harmful.

Avenue Girl pointed out to me, that there are some things that just take up so much effort, and can be done in less effort. I understand the idea of making things as smooth and easy as well- such as in the idea of "auto pilot".


Why was it interesting I looked into being an escort?

I think negativity was present in this thread because the OP had not made a fantastic suggestion to the people the thread was aimed at (i.e. "noobs" as they are being called).

I agree there is merit to getting practice and getting good through volume writing, but as a first time suggestion to a newcomer, this was not hot stuff, and would not give some one new a real taste of internet marketing.

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Why was it interesting I looked into being an escort?

I think negativity was present in this thread because the OP had not made a fantastic suggestion to the people the thread was aimed at (i.e. "noobs" as they are being called).

I agree there is merit to getting practice and getting good through volume writing, but as a first time suggestion to a newcomer, this was not hot stuff, and would not give some one new a real taste of internet marketing.

It's not something one would generally hear someone say aloud, nor is it something I would expect... so that's what made it interesting.

Alot of people may say they wanted to market online... be a pilot...work at a club even, as a bartender... so that's why I found it interesting.

I think it would give too much taste of internet marketing... all in one go- without the actual food. It's like gum, people chew it, and spit it out later when it loses it's flavor. It should be like food, where people chew it and get nourished and actually fed... 700 pieces of gum, yum!

Yup, yup, I agree now on the noob standpoint, and on the standpoint of it being a person's choice on what challenges them and what doesn't, as well as on the idea that not everyone has to take the same action to get results, especially drastic action. Thus, if something can be done easier, faster, and with less effort, and more smoothly + consistently, then why not?
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So PM the guy and tell him to change the number, and ask him to read all the replies, to find out why... or maybe wait till he comes back online and reads all of these.

Maybe he was just sharing his goal, and wanted others to join in on the challenge... that's what I think it really was. But as others had mentioned as well, such kinds of posts/threads are often deleted... the progress ones.

So how many articles do you normally pump out per day, or you have moved on to bigger and better things?
Agreed I probably will pm him. I only do about 5 per day but I make sure that I set Google's keyword tool to sort by relevant and I use the 10 most relevant keywords when writing it. Works amazingly and I don't know why other people don't do it.

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Lol,

The reason I mentioned it is because me and a couple of friends egged each other on about it after hearing how much money could be made. None of us went ahead with it though. It was Summer holidays in-between term time and we had a lot of time on our hands and no money. Male escorting was no big ambition of ours. The point was, there are lots of things that will make you money and successful (if you define success by how much money some one has), but it doesn't mean you should do them.

As for the rest of my CV (jobs I have actually done):

Online marketing consultant
Traffic manager/specialist
Affiliate Manager
Content Creator
Customer Services Supervisor
Bartender
Doorman
Musician

Now, back to the point:

I like your enthusiasm acrasial, but I have to say on this one, I have to agree with a lot of the more learned and experienced Warriors, I don't think the 700 article challenge would be helpful to many people.

In all likely-hood I think a good deal of people would fail at it, feel bad about it, get left with a bitter taste in their mouth, and may never try making money online again, which would be a shame in some cases.

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Look At that I just posted this thread, and buy now I know I have over enough here to make a book, write articles and have some left over for tomorrow.

Talk about the Impossible. Some of you have already written more than ten articles with the amount of comments you have made.
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It's easy to write 100 articles a day. All I have to do is redefine the word "day" to mean "the amount of time it takes me to write 100 articles."
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I cannot agree with you at all.

Instead do this and YOU WILL MAKE MONEY!

1. Research a market
2. Research uncompetitive keywords
3. Write 3 articles per keyword!
4. Make Money.

700 articles? That's flat out insane.

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Look At that I just posted this thread, and buy now I know I have over enough here to make a book, write articles and have some left over for tomorrow.

Talk about the Impossible. Some of you have already written more than ten articles with the amount of comments you have made.
OOOO NOOOO!!!! REALLY? people really can write that much? How dare they!!!
Just don't tell them that they did it. they may get upset again.

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It's easy to write 100 articles a day. All I have to do is redefine the word "day" to mean "the amount of time it takes me to write 100 articles."

So how many minutes would this day be then? Its amusing how people amuse themselves.

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I cannot agree with you at all.

Instead do this and YOU WILL MAKE MONEY!

1. Research a market
2. Research uncompetitive keywords
3. Write 3 articles per keyword!
4. Make Money.

700 articles? That's flat out insane.
So your method to making money is 3 articles per keyword. How many keywords per day to be written on then?
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I've got a better idea. Set up 100 WordPress blogs a day, each optimized to promote a different Clickbank Marketing & Ads product, and get 100 PR 5+ backlinks per day for each. Doing this would get you a lot more sales than just writing 100 articles a day, of course...
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All I see here is people trying to force their opinion on each other when at the end of the day I am sure they aren't even doing what they are preaching here.

Everyone is trying to say oh this is right or my way is the best way but the fact is what works for someone else might not work for you and at the same time what works for you might not work for someone else.

So it all boils down to- What works for you.

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All I see here is people trying to force their opinion on each other when at the end of the day I am sure they aren't even doing what they are preaching here.

Everyone is trying to say oh this is right or my way is the best way but the fact is what works for someone else might not work for you and at the same time what works for you might not work for someone else.

So it all boils down to- What works for you.
I wrote an article in-between each one of my posts here. So HA! Really though I agree, instead of being here arguing we should be working!

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<<<...I don't throw a bunch of sh!t against the virtual wall, hoping some of it sticks...and I would never tell anyone to do it either.>>>

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Allen, if one throws enough sh!t against the wall, some of it is bound to stick! The problem being one of then having to live in a sh!t-filled home
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So I go to an article directory and look for most popular or most read articles in a niche. Even there, most are written by 3rd rate hacks and IM grifters wanting to take without wanting to give.

But when I find a really good article with great content, I am much more likely to read or use dozens more articles from the same author. There are some very good ones out there.

They say that we don't get a second chance to make a good first impression. Unfortunately, in many cases, the first impression I often get of an on-line marketer comes from the articles he or she has written. A slopped together 5 minute 350 word article only convinces me NOT TO click on a link in a resource box.

On the other hand, a great article that actually gives me something of value makes me think that the author might have more things of value at the other end of the links. It's all about getting people to click on the links--no, more than that, it's about getting the right people to click on your links.

I don't want freebie seekers. I don't want unmotivated buyers. I want people with a burning desire in their gut for more information, willing buyers, and people who are willing to opt-in to my list.

The only way to get motivated, qualified buyers to click on links is by first providing them with quality information--good content that makes them want more. Sorry, but 5-minute rehashed dribbled articles will get you neither the quantity or quality of link-clickers you want.

Rather than thinking about how much you can get from those who read your articles, think about how much you can give to them. The rest will take care of itself!

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Hi guys...this post gets my interest...Its like telling me to be a super human in no time...I'm just new here and I want to learn so much about online marketing...Please feed me with the right info...Feel free to email me or redirect me from other links and site.

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5 articles a day should do!
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I understand everything now.

This is where the articles in those huge PLR packs come from. No wonder they're such literary gems.

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Old 10-14-2009, 10:53 PM   #94
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would it give you the total brain stew and absolute nosebleed? even if I do 5 articles per day, and boy do i want to lean it all, i still think that i would not be able to absorb everything.

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I write articles frequently and the most I ever wrote in a single day is 15 articles.

Good articles require good research, and even if you are able to write 100 articles a day, the quality will not be there i guess. So how are you going to get lots of sales from your articles?

100 articles in a day is simply not possible. If I can write 100 articles a day, i think i am better than most article rewriting software in the market... and I most probably will own an article directory and earn my living off Adsense!

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OOOO NOOOO!!!! REALLY? people really can write that much? How dare they!!!
Just don't tell them that they did it. they may get upset again.




So how many minutes would this day be then? Its amusing how people amuse themselves.



So your method to making money is 3 articles per keyword. How many keywords per day to be written on then?
Its actually better then writing a gazillion articles per day on random stuff. I would rather write it on focused keywords.

I just keep researching keywords, and if a keyword is REALLY uncompetitive (the top 10 don't have many backlinks etc) I target it until I get 6-7/10 and YES this is possible with article marketing, and video marketing.

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That's quite a challenge... 700 articles in a week?? It takes me about 1 hour to write just 1 article. The thought of even trying to write 100 articles a day by yourself or with an army of outsourced writers (can you imagine how much that would cost?) gave me a good laugh.

When Japan invents the worlds fastest typing robot then we'll talk.


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While I find the OP's reference to writing 700 articles a 'little crazy', I'm in the same boat as "acrasial" in that if we decide to push our inner abilities to the max, even for a short while, great things 'can happen'.

Now, for those who say you'd never spend 7, 8 or god forbid 12 hours 'writing articles', you do realize that there are people right now, who work 10, 12, 14 hour days doing things WAY MORE stressful then writing articles...right?

So, that being said, let's not make article writing out to be some type of life-threatening or extremely dangerous line of work when it really isn't.

Sure, it's mind-numbing at times, but then again, so is being a truck driver sitting behind the wheel of a big-rig, driving 12 hours through the mid-west.

I think for everyone who says they couldn't imagine wanting or even attempting to write articles for even more then a few hours a day at best, the type of people who probably never had, nor let alone handle, working a manual labor job, even if it you were broke, homeless and desperately needed the money!

But...that is just the impression I'm getting from reading the replies so far in this thread...

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Writing 700 articles in 7 days, 7 weeks or 7 months doesn't mean you're going become a rich affiliate. How many articles you have to write to make money depends on the niche and your ability to sell click-thrus to people in that niche that have money to spend on a solution. It all varies. IMO it's far better for them to go thru the process of thinking and doing as they go through the steps of putting together an affiliate campaign.
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Writing 10 good articles a day leaves my brain fried how on earth could I possibly do tens times that?, let alone the amount of red flags I would be sending up trying to squeeze them all through the article directories in one go.

I'd rather go for quality and write less thanks.

PS - Dr Pro, you first buddy. You can tell us how you get on with your 700 articles in 7 days.

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