Article Marketing Challenge- Jump On Board Newbies

[Marcel Hartmann]

Seven hundred articles in 7 days? Right.

At your recommendation of 500 words a pop, you'd have to write at 83.3 words per minute for 10 hours every day. The reward? You will finally have Carpal Tunnel.

[YseUp]

I have a solution.

We can set a challenge.

How about we each contribute a little bit of money $ 1 -5 and ask Dr Pro or Acrasial to write us 100 articles in one day. They can't start writing until they receive the topic which will be kept secret until the start of the challenge.

What do you think?

[TristanPerry]

Originally Posted by Ray Erdmann

While I find the OP's reference to writing 700 articles a 'little crazy', I'm in the same boat as "acrasial" in that if we decide to push our inner abilities to the max, even for a short while, great things 'can happen'.

Now, for those who say you'd never spend 7, 8 or god forbid 12 hours 'writing articles', you do realize that there are people right now, who work 10, 12, 14 hour days doing things WAY MORE stressful then writing articles...right?

So, that being said, let's not make article writing out to be some type of life-threatening or extremely dangerous line of work when it really isn't.

Sure, it's mind-numbing at times, but then again, so is being a truck driver sitting behind the wheel of a big-rig, driving 12 hours through the mid-west.

I think for everyone who says they couldn't imagine wanting or even attempting to write articles for even more then a few hours a day at best, the type of people who probably never had, nor let alone handle, working a manual labor job, even if it you were broke, homeless and desperately needed the money!

But...that is just the impression I'm getting from reading the replies so far in this thread...

I'd agree with this post.

I'd personally not want to write 700 articles in a week (especially since there's no guarantee that those articles would make a lot of money), although it's certainly not outside of the realms of possibility.

I know of people who have worked much harder than this (mainly in the past - i.e. when the UK was still deep in primary production - but the point still remains, and people still work that hard today in other countries)

Whilst it would be very boring and I do think that you could make better money from doing other things with a 12-16 hour shift, it would be possible to write 100 articles in a day.

For example, say someone does 1 ~260 word article every 8 minutes. That's 32.5 words per minute, which isn't crazy. Tough, but not crazy.

That'd be 7.5 articles per hour. Lets call it 7, there's bound to be Human downtime.

Then a little over 14 hours would be required to write 100 articles at this pace.

Then you'd need another couple of hours to submit them all.

Yes, it'd be a lot of work. And doing this for an entire week would probably be a bit too much for most of us (I wouldn't be able to keep doing it), although it *is* possible (perhaps not at 500 words though; but if you are going for click-throughs, you would want ~260 word articles, not 500 word articles)

As Ray says, some people work a lot more than 14/16 hours per day. People in other countries, and in the West a few decades ago, would work this number of hours doing hard, manual labour.

Of course, I'm not saying since other people did it, we should all sit down and struggle through 700 articles in a week.

I'm just saying that it *is* possible, and people *have* done harder things.

[achivement84]

It`s really a big challenge, i don`t think even a professional will be able to write all these articles in your mentioned time, and even it he did i don`t think it will the good level to be sucesful in getting more traffic.

B.Regards

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by Ray Erdmann

While I find the OP's reference to writing 700 articles a 'little crazy', I'm in the same boat as "acrasial" in that if we decide to push our inner abilities to the max, even for a short while, great things 'can happen'.

THANKYOU!!!

Originally Posted by Ray Erdmann

Now, for those who say you'd never spend 7, 8 or god forbid 12 hours 'writing articles', you do realize that there are people right now, who work 10, 12, 14 hour days doing things WAY MORE stressful then writing articles...right?
So, that being said, let's not make article writing out to be some type of life-threatening or extremely dangerous line of work when it really isn't.

Sure, it's mind-numbing at times, but then again, so is being a truck driver sitting behind the wheel of a big-rig, driving 12 hours through the mid-west.

Why are you in my head!!? Better said than I could put it! cheez! Everyone sure did blow this way out of proportion, claiming it was based on the title being noobs, but I noticed that most people responding here saying it's impossible are not noobs either.

Originally Posted by Ray Erdmann

I think for everyone who says they couldn't imagine wanting or even attempting to write articles for even more then a few hours a day at best, the type of people who probably never had, nor let alone handle, working a manual labor job, even if it you were broke, homeless and desperately needed the money!

But...that is just the impression I'm getting from reading the replies so far in this thread...

Seems like it, people love their comfort zone. I don't really think it has anything to do with what they have worked at, but rather how much work they DON'T want to do, and how much work they think is far too much.

I am guilty of the above as well, where I know I can do something, but just don't because I get lazy, and prefer comfort to real success. Heck there are even threads here where people state that they don't want to "earn millions" but rather just want to "pay their bills"... so it seems a consensus here as well, that people will work enough so that they can have some comfort, but not enough so that they can have some really great success.

But once again, we cannot measure what everyone's success is, by what we want our own success to be. But I still cannot see anyone here who really wouldn't love to be a millionaire either... it would just take some work. Can it be done with article marketing? Well that's another question, and alot of people, I am sure, would come and argue that it can't and I am dreaming....

I am sure that this doesn't apply only to article marketing, but a few online marketing techniques in general- where people would come and say "oh that's impossible!" or "that's crazy"... and even if they saw proof of someone doing it, they would still say it's too much, and not for them.

But that is fine, because as mentioned, we aren't here to sit and judge what success is for everyone... as everyone does have their own limits. But I still have the idea that every single person here can push themselves to try something like this, if they do in fact article market... as it could really have some great benefits.

It sure isn't everyone's cup of tea.

[drwhogoesthere]

Writing 10 good articles a day leaves my brain fried how on earth could I possibly do tens times that?, let alone the amount of red flags I would be sending up trying to squeeze them all through the article directories in one go.

I'd rather go for quality and write less thanks.

I have to agree. Quality over quantity every time. No one want to read an article that has no substance. 100 articles a day? What are you writing about? Same article different title?

I tried an article spinner. Sure it gave me 100 articles in just a few minuets, but they all read like rubbish.

Personally I try for one to two articles a day that are of a high standard. I want to build a continuing relationship with my readers, not just pump them for cash.

[M Thompson]

Originally Posted by avenuegirl

Imagine this in my signature line:

"I wrote 700 articles in 7 days! And you can too!"

It would probably be in green Crayon and from the close observation ward of the local mental institution

[CDarklock]

Originally Posted by acrasial

Yup, But now imagine having 100 of those out, if you can get the same traffic for all- how much money can you make then?

The error in thinking that most people commit is precisely this: because they do not know the answer, they assume the answer is the same.

How much traffic will article A generate? We don't know.

How much traffic will article B generate? We don't know.

Since we don't know either way, it's completely arbitrary whether we write article A or article B. But with more information about either article, we can get a better answer.

If article A is targeted for keyword X which gets 5,000 monthly searches, and article B is targeted for keyword Y which gets 2,000 monthly searches... it's reasonable to assume that article A will get about two and a half times the traffic of article B. So you should probably write article A first.

Now, extend that out to a hundred articles. You have a hundred articles to write. Which ones should you write first? The most effective ones, right?

Now we encounter what's called the Pareto principle: 20% of the product produces 80% of the results. Which means out of your 100 articles, 20 of them will generate 80% of the traffic. And 4 of those 20 will generate 80% of that traffic, or 64% of the overall traffic. And one of those four will generate 80% of that traffic, or 51.2% of all the traffic combined.

When you really calculate out the numbers, you start to find that after about ten articles... you've got 90% of the traffic, on the average, if you've done the best articles first. Why write the other 90 articles at all? Don't you have better things to do?

When you don't have this information, you have to write all 100 articles, sure. But you should be trying to get this information, so you don't have to.

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by CDarklock

20% of the product produces 80% of the results. Which means out of your 100 articles, 20 of them will generate 80% of the traffic. And 4 of those 20 will generate 80% of that traffic, or 64% of the overall traffic. And one of those four will generate 80% of that traffic, or 51.2% of all the traffic combined.

That was an interesting study, unfortunately I am bad at math. Someone also told me that I am not good at it, because "I don't want to be", since I am inevitably lazy as well, I would like to work out how this works with just "4" articles then, but won't.

What if the traffic could always be targeted, and always be generated, for each and every single article?

Let's say these were books as well. If I had written 10 books, does this mean that only one would get most of the reader's attention? Does this mean that each book loses it's value as the numbers go up as well?

check out the Twilight and harry potter series. Those writers pumped out alot (especially J.K. Rowling) In a short amount of time...one book after the other... and they became more popular, the more that were written.

Articles are like mini-books to me. Each has to sell itself... a book does, and so does an article; and yet each provides something for the reader. It may be information, concepts, ideas, keys, advice, entertainment...

[EndGame]

Having read this thread over in the cold light of day, I realize it is such a non-issue, because no one in this thread is writing 100 articles a day.

Lots of people saying it's possible, but no one is actually doing it. The only thing that is happening, is people telling each other to do something. A lot of speculation and thoughts, but no numbers, no one taking up the "challenge" and no one is closer to making this year a success for themselves as a result of this conversation.

Lively and interesting debate though.

[Hamida Harland]

Originally Posted by EndGame

Lots of people saying it's possible, but no one is actually doing it. The only thing that is happening, is people telling each other to do something. A lot of speculation and thoughts, but no numbers, no one taking up the "challenge" and no one is closer to making this year a success for themselves as a result of this conversation.

Indeed - maybe acrasial could take up the challenge and show us 'non-believers' how it's done?

[Jay Jennings]

acrasial -

I don't believe you can do it -- write 700 "decent quality" articles (from scratch) in 7 days. I do NOT believe you can do it. Period.

A previous poster mentioned Moby Dick being about 210,000 words -- and 700 articles each at the EzineArticle bare minimum is 175,000 words.

The big difference between writing a book in a week and 700 articles is that each article must stand on its own -- you have a beginning, middle, and end in each one of those 700. Writing Moby Dick in a week would be easy compared to 700 articles.

Again, I don't believe you can do it.

And suggesting that as a way to "finally make money online" is doing a disservice to people who are looking for answers. That's like saying, "Want to get in shape? All you have to do is climb Mt. Everest!" It's too much all at once to be realistic and if that's what people thinks it takes they'll go away frustrated/dejected.

Jay Jennings

[Liam Hamer]

Originally Posted by EndGame

Having read this thread over in the cold light of day, I realize it is such a non-issue, because no one in this thread is writing 100 articles a day.

Lots of people saying it's possible, but no one is actually doing it. The only thing that is happening, is people telling each other to do something. A lot of speculation and thoughts, but no numbers, no one taking up the "challenge" and no one is closer to making this year a success for themselves as a result of this conversation.

Lively and interesting debate though.

I can only speak for myself, and this thread has certainly helped me to question my own limits and acrasial's contributions(amongst others) have inspired me to take even more action than I already am. Threads like these are good, and even if nobody is taking up this challenge - the content within could very well be moving more people(like myself) forward than you may think

[EndGame]

Originally Posted by Crubalo

I can only speak for myself, and this thread has certainly helped me to question my own limits and acrasial's contributions(amongst others) have inspired me to take even more action than I already am. Threads like these are good, and even if nobody is taking up this challenge - the content within could very well be moving more people(like myself) forward than you may think

In which case then, if the thread has genuinely helped just one person then I guess it's been worthwhile on some level.

It is littered with bad advice though and at times, unhelpful thinking. I think the analogy that Jay Jennings about climbing Mount Everest is an excellent one.

I agree, believing in your abilities, pushing your limits and stepping out of your comfort zones are all good things, but it's good to retain some good, considered critical thinking.

[HomeBasedBusinessPLR]

writing 700 articles in that short a time is pure insanity my friend!

[waken]

Originally Posted by Jay Jennings

acrasial -

I don't believe you can do it -- write 700 "decent quality" articles (from scratch) in 7 days. I do NOT believe you can do it. Period.

A previous poster mentioned Moby Dick being about 210,000 words -- and 700 articles each at the EzineArticle bare minimum is 175,000 words.

The big difference between writing a book in a week and 700 articles is that each article must stand on its own -- you have a beginning, middle, and end in each one of those 700. Writing Moby Dick in a week would be easy compared to 700 articles.

Again, I don't believe you can do it.

And suggesting that as a way to "finally make money online" is doing a disservice to people who are looking for answers. That's like saying, "Want to get in shape? All you have to do is climb Mt. Everest!" It's too much all at once to be realistic and if that's what people thinks it takes they'll go away frustrated/dejected.

Jay Jennings

Hey Jay .. I know what you are trying to do .. You're hoping this aren't you?


Well, well ...

It's not only possible but very doable to write an article in 5 minutes. However, it might not be accurate to assume that writing 100 articles only requires 5 x 100 = 500 minutes = 8.3 hours in a day.

Anyway, I am with acrasial that it can be done but that will never be me.

What's surprising is that, the OP is missing in action after (I think) 2 to 3 posts in this long thread. Maybe, acrasial holds the formula / secret but not the OP.

[shermancox]

lol...I think this thread is on the way to being 100 a day...

Originally Posted by EndGame

Having read this thread over in the cold light of day, I realize it is such a non-issue, because no one in this thread is writing 100 articles a day.

Lots of people saying it's possible, but no one is actually doing it. The only thing that is happening, is people telling each other to do something. A lot of speculation and thoughts, but no numbers, no one taking up the "challenge" and no one is closer to making this year a success for themselves as a result of this conversation.

Lively and interesting debate though.

[acrasial]

As for all the posts and responses in this thread made by myself and others, I do realize that I could have spent my time writing articles instead, but I think I delegate what goes on in my life as well, in terms of what I can do in my spare time, and that just so happens to also include more writing.

As to the others who have already written a few articles in here, well of course, a few points were already proved here. This sure is a great discussion, and I am also wondering why the O/P is missing in action, and I guess that's what makes this thread so great and "fun" now, because the O/P seems to have little to none input on this.

Thus, the warriors made this thread what it is... I think by now the O/P'ers post is pretty much obsolete anyways, as this discussion has gone all over the place, and everyone seems to have come to some sort of stand point in one way or another on it.

So Original Poster, where are you? Come back into your thread... oh wait...maybe he/she is busy writing... :P

[Allen Graves]

The funny thing here is that the people who are strongly against the idea that 100 articles/day is possible are professional article writers who have been doing it for years! Doesn't that tell you something?

I am so happy to see that the serious article marketers and writers participating in this thread are so focused on quality.

You know, a couple of years ago, a great majority would be praising this as one of the best ideas of the century - but times change and rules change.

One thing that has persisted longer than all the tricks and fly-by-night strategies and $17 gimmicks is...<drum roll>...quality, researched, well-written content. And writing 100 articles per day is not going to generate articles which fall into this category.

If you go back and read this thread again, you will see that there is an underlying theme - quality content vs. quantity content.

Now, looking at the dynamic history of article marketing, watching current and long-term trends, which one would you choose?

I think the successful people in this thread (at least those who claim to be successful) have answered this question for us. And those who are pro-100 articles/day - are you successful, are you full time online, are you banking hard cash in AM/IM, or are you just chasing ideas?

All due respect,
Allen Graves

[CDarklock]

Originally Posted by acrasial

What if the traffic could always be targeted, and always be generated, for each and every single article?

That's rather the point. If sufficient traffic can't be generated, or won't be targeted, for a given article - DON'T WRITE IT!

Let's say these were books as well. If I had written 10 books, does this mean that only one would get most of the reader's attention?

Yes. Yes, it does.

Those writers pumped out alot (especially J.K. Rowling) In a short amount of time...

Seventeen years is a short amount of time?

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by CDarklock

That's rather the point. If sufficient traffic can't be generated, or won't be targeted, for a given article - DON'T WRITE IT!



Yes. Yes, it does.



Seventeen years is a short amount of time?

I am wondering how harry potter was written in 17 years? I have read and found it was 10 years or less, as the first one was finished in 1997, and the last one in 2007.


Other example was published from 2005-2008, and is four books. That's a fast time in terms of "BOOKS" for a series of books to be pumped out, and what I meant was in that context, alot of book writers may say it's impossible as well...

to write a quality book, in a short amount of time, and have it become well received by people.

Which is what both authors have done, and that is what I had meant, that in everything.... there will always be people saying something cannot be done, and giving reasons- and then there will be people who prove them wrong.

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

The funny thing here is that the people who are strongly against the idea that 100 articles/day is possible are professional article writers who have been doing it for years! Doesn't that tell you something?

I also market articles for a living. Who decides that an article marketer is "professional"...? Oh time?

There are doctors who cause deaths, and all kinds of things- and they too are supposed to be professional. Not everyone who does their job, even for 50 years, knows everything about it, and has mastered it. Everyone here also has different ideas of what works for them, so that is what I have been told here, if anything.

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

I am so happy to see that the serious article marketers and writers participating in this thread are so focused on quality.

You know, a couple of years ago, a great majority would be praising this as one of the best ideas of the century - but times change and rules change.

They sure do change, but people do not. If these people are so damn serious about their article marketing, how come most here seem to not have pushed themselves to do more than 10 a day, when they know they can?

Instead, they will stick to 2-3... because that works for them, right now. What would happen if 2-3 stopped working for them, and more were required? competition builds... what do they just
abandon that niche then, and go onto something else?

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

One thing that has persisted longer than all the tricks and fly-by-night strategies and $17 gimmicks is...<drum roll>...quality, researched, well-written content. And writing 100 articles per day is not going to generate articles which fall into this category.

Let me ask you, how long do you read something, before you finally know it? 1000000000 times?
Research, research...ok? But aren't you smart enough, that after some time you just know the content inside and out. Especially if it's your own product, how is that difficult then, to write about something that you should know about? It's like having a doctor stand in front of you... and tell you that he/she has to go find a book in the library or google a term to diagnose you!! Imagine that?

After some point and time the excuses need to be laid to rest, because if everyone here is a so called expert, then shouldn't they know what they are writing about by now? I get "brushing up" on things, or learning new concepts... but constantly having to research what you write? What does it go in one eye and come out the other?

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

If you go back and read this thread again, you will see that there is an underlying theme - quality content vs. quantity content.

If i go back and read, I see people complaining and making excuses. Then I see people explaining themselves. Then I see people actually saying what such an idea can or could do for them, and also showing methods they use now. Then I still see people in between who will continue to do the first few things, even if they know the last part.

I got that idea a long time ago, but there are far too many arguments over that already, so I changed the pace. I made a thread once on article spinning- and immediately people came in telling how bad it is, how it reduces quality... and on and on and on.

I don't even article spin for myself, but I had just learned how to do it. But people then assumed that I do it, and got mad, angry, and so upset that I just got my thread deleted, because it created such a huge argument.

I am well aware of the "quality" police here on the WF. I don't say that anyone spending the time to sit down and write, is really trying to reduce their quality. I don't say that anyone sitting down and writing more, is incapable of producing quality.

There are writers who have to write for newspapers everyday, in quality formatting, telling captivating stories... they constantly have to generate things too. As well, as others have mentioned... there are doctors who work 14 hour shifts...

When you damn go to the hospital... is that what you are thinking, that the doctor is tired and cant stitch you up right? Are you doubting them in that moment? I really doubt it! Just because they do more, doesn't mean they are suddenly incapable of delivering what it is they should.

Apply this to anything, where someone works their butt off and puts in far more than is expected of them.... does the quality of their work go down then!?

Much the same for article writers. I can stay up 24 hours, and even 48 hours and still talk like I am talking now, and write exactly the same. I don't let my mind slip that way, and should I need sleep, heck I go and take it. Should I need a break, or food, I go take that too.

The quality of YOUR WORK can only go down, if you let it. if after 10 articles, you truly believe that your work will stink, it sure as heck will, and if you cannot write any better after that point, then YOU cannot. Doesn't mean others cannot, so to everyone here saying that, your beliefs are not others' limitations.

Originally Posted by VinnyBock

PS I'm sorry this post is worded weird, I've been writing all day and I'm actually starting to have a hard time thinking.. LOL

Apparently,some may have a hard time thinking after writing for extended periods of time...

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

Now, looking at the dynamic history of article marketing, watching current and long-term trends, which one would you choose?

I obviously choose the one that no one else thinks is right. Look back at any famous person in history too- at one point and time they were called stupid, crazy, dumb... and their ideas were viewed as being extreme- but now they are respected and loved worldwide for standing out and trying something different.

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

I think the successful people in this thread (at least those who claim to be successful) have answered this question for us. And those who are pro-100 articles/day - are you successful, are you full time online, are you banking hard cash in AM/IM, or are you just chasing ideas?

Sure, many of a time I have had a dream, a goal, an idea- and absolutely nothing came to life. But whose fault was that? it was my own. My drive went down, my ambition became less etc... and eventually I didn't do it. Sometimes I didn't believe in myself enough, other times I was just plain lazy- but really, if it doesn't work, if someone isn't successful and they accept that failure, then it sure as heck is a failure...for them.

[JT0713]

where can I find good quality, well-researched and written content articles??
warriors...any recommendation??
I have to say, coz English is my second language...find it quite difficult to write 3 articles a day.

[prime777]

I was having so much fun reading the responses to the original post that at the end I am bursting into tears literally with laughter and thinking as much as I love online marketing, before I spend all this time trying to write articles that may in some cases be rejected by the ezines.

Why don't I just go straight ahead and write a good book get Oprah or CNN to endorse it and become rich overnight.

This was my morning inspiration for sure I am in tears but only because I am laughing so much.

[CDarklock]

Originally Posted by acrasial

I am wondering how harry potter was written in 17 years? I have read and found it was 10 years or less, as the first one was finished in 1997, and the last one in 2007.

The first book was started in 1990. There's this part of the process called "writing" which is rather important.

Other example was published from 2005-2008

Again, started in 2003.

Which is what both authors have done, and that is what I had meant, that in everything.... there will always be people saying something cannot be done, and giving reasons- and then there will be people who prove them wrong.

I'd like to know who told anyone "nobody can write a book in a year."

After all, Stephen King has written an average of two books a year for three decades, as I already mentioned. Next month, thousands of people around the world will write a novel in thirty days.

But none of them will write it in 24 hours. NONE. Because you can't.

Want to prove me wrong? Go right ahead. Race right on out there and write 350,000 words of articles in a week.

[Baldpilot]

The title sure caught my attention! I too, think I will have to pass on 100 articles/day.
Your idea of maintaining focus is great, but writing that many articles in 1 day, let alone 7 is a little far fetched.

...Back to looking for the next "secret". ;p

[Kelly Verge]

There are two farmers - Bob and Dave.

Dave's story:

Dave has an idea. He wants to cut 20,000 2x4 boards in seven days. He's thought things through and has figured out how he can cut every single board at a random length. He's got the process streamlined and he's ready to begin. Dave calls the lumberyard and has the wood delivered.

He works with a fury. He alternates between cutting the lumber into pieces then pushing the cut piles into his field with his Bobcat. Twice per day he has to move piles of sawdust as well.

At the end of the seven days, his wood is all cut into pieces.

He then decides that he'll take the cut wood, sort it by size, and build a barn. Of course, there will be a lot of unused pieces. After a few weeks his barn is done.

Bob's story:

Bob wants to build a barn.

Bob draws out some plans. He breaks out his calculator and figures out exactly how much lumber he will need. He plans his cuts so that he'll use as little lumber as possible and be as efficient as possible with his time.

The lumber is delivered, he starts working, and a few weeks later he has a finished barn.

Who was the most successful? Was it Bob or Dave?

It really all depends on their goals.

[YseUp]

So does anyone want to pool together some money in order to pay Acrasial to write 100 articles in 24 hours?

If 25 of us pledge $20 each that would give her $5 per article. Would you write 100 articles for us in 24 hours for $500 Acrasial?

[acrasial]

Originally Posted by YseUp

So does anyone want to pool together some money in order to pay Acrasial to write 100 articles in 24 hours?

If 25 of us pledge $20 each that would give her $5 per article. Would you write 100 articles for us in 24 hours for $500 Acrasial?

I had already written for warriors on here, and didn't like it. Too many weird demands, and other demands that aren't demanding enough. On top of that, most wanted recurring articles written, and that's not going to happen.

Why should I write for others. If you need articles, I am sure you know where to go look for it, and since a few people here are asking where to find quality articles/content etc... here is the link once again, for those who cannot go look....

Warriors For Hire

For the same price, you can hire someone who will be happy to meet your demands, and who will be happy to write about the topics you wish. Heck you can even find cheaper prices there.

I would pass on that one, I would write for myself instead.

[YseUp]

Originally Posted by acrasial

For the same price, you can hire someone who will be happy to meet your demands, and who will be happy to write about the topics you wish. Heck you can even find cheaper prices there.

But Acrasial, I need 100 articles within 24 hours and you're the only one who can do it!

[Allen Graves]

Acrasial,

It is obvious that you just don't get it (although you are probably going to say that you do) - and you are going to fight this to the end. I really, really want you to succeed, but I feel that this will be a HUGE waste of time for you. You could take those hours and do so much better using a different, far less stressful method.

But if you're doing it - more power to ya.

So, its been a while since you said you were going to accept this challenge. How many articles have you written so far and how many hours have you spent?

I want to know everything - views, click through rates, conversions, hours of sleep, LOL. What is the account name you are submitting them under? I want to subscribe to the RSS feed and watch you do it.

Allen

[BigRedNotebook]

I could write 700 articles in a week.

If you want to challenge someone to prove it's possible, I'm your guy.

Here's what I'd need:

A month's warning so I could clear a week from my schedule.
Several cartons of cigarettes and a quiet hotel room in an undisclosed location--with room service.
A sufficient supply of OTC stimulants.
Enough money to justify wrecking the rest of my life for a week.
Enough money to cover the time I'd take off following the project to recuperate.
Enough money to cover the money I'm losing by not tending to the rest of my business.

Articles would be 400+ words and I'd guarantee 90%+ approval at EzineArticles IF they weren't all dumped into the system at one time by one person.

So, if you all want to see someone do this, just gather up the cash. Someone drop me a line when you've put about $50,000 together.

Look, it's not an accident that you don't see people writing 100 articles per day. It has nothing to do with an unwillingness to "think outside the box" or a refusal to take on a challenge.

People don't write 100 articles day after day because it's F**KING STUPID.

In the past, I've made a good living writing articles for others. I was able to out-earn nearly all of my clients because I'm good and I'm rocket fast. I've never written 100 articles in a day, but I've had emergency situations where I did more than 50 per day for a few days in a row. Anyone who's been there will tell you the same thing: It sucks so hard that it just isn't worth the money. Period.

I'll put my speed/quality combination up against anybody. I've also had more than one person tell me that I'm crazy in terms of the amount of work I do. So, when I'm joining the chorus of people who say this 700/week thing is nothing short of dumbassery, you can rest assured that it is.

Look through this thread. Run the numbers. Realize that the optimistic assessments don't allow you any time to run to the bathroom, take a shower or eat a sandwich. Note that they don't include an occasional five minute break to stretch or walk around. Recognize that in order for you to avoid getting A TON of low-grade crap, you'll need to match the perfect topic areas with the ideal writer for those topics.

Impossible? No.

Stupid? Certainly.

And trying to justify the utter insanity of the OP's recommendation by talking about how it's just the kind of aspirational thinking that can open new doors is a too-kind rationalization of sheer silliness. The idea is bunk. It's no more inspiring than someone telling you to hold your breath until you pass out.

[JAIDEEP2959]

Writing 100 articles daily is very difficult for newbies.

Professional writers can do it.

If you can submit 700 articles weekly, you can start your own article directory. It will be a profitable for you.

However, I believe that Ezinearticles.com has become extremely competitive due to large numbers of articles and it is not easy to make money from articles as it used to be 2 years ago.

[Hamida Harland]

Originally Posted by acrasial

I had already written for warriors on here, and didn't like it. Too many weird demands, and other demands that aren't demanding enough. On top of that, most wanted recurring articles written, and that's not going to happen.

Why should I write for others. If you need articles, I am sure you know where to go look for it, and since a few people here are asking where to find quality articles/content etc... here is the link once again, for those who cannot go look....

Warriors For Hire

For the same price, you can hire someone who will be happy to meet your demands, and who will be happy to write about the topics you wish. Heck you can even find cheaper prices there.

I would pass on that one, I would write for myself instead.

It's interesting you should say that. I'm pretty sure I saw a thread from yourself just a week or two ago asking how you could get some freelance writing work. It surprised me at the time considering how many articles you claimed to be churning out - surely anyone who was successful with article marketing wouldn't in a million years consider going back to freelance work? Maybe submitting article after article isn't so profitable after all?

I think one of the reasons you need to submit so many articles is you niches - for example the 'ex back' niche is probably one of the most competitive niches on Ezinearticles, and your articles will disappear VERY quickly. But do you really want to be churning out a huge number of articles daily for the rest of your life? That's no business model, and to be honest I'd go back to an offline job before I'd write and submit 100 articles a day. Why not work at optimizing a smaller number of articles, get them ranked on page 1 of Google, and then carry on doing other things to build your business for the long term? There are a whole lot more important things to life than writing 700 articles a week.

You're obviously a hard worker and very motivated - which is a great thing, but in the area of article marketing you can definitely do better working smart (rather than working hard for very little return.)

[Jason_V]

For all of those who are laughing about the idea of 700 articles in 7 days. Here's a guy who quite frequently writes a huge amount of articles per day. Here's one day where he wrote over 100. He even included the screen shot of his Word docs to prove it:

Day 158 - Wrote 101 Articles Today | Mike Iser .com - Mikeman's Journey To A Full-Time Income Online!

You have to go to his older posts to see him writing a lot of articles himself. Since he started making a lot of money he now outsources a lot too. If you doubt the power of what the OP is talking about you need to read this blog.

[Liam Hamer]

Originally Posted by Crubalo

I actually am embarking(I had decided this before I seen this thread) on a little article challenge of my own tomorrow. I put together a new site today on a variety of different subjects under one main niche, and I'm going to write and submit 10 articles to drive traffic to it and really test the site and the products/offers on there. My personal best before now is 9 in a day.

OK so I just finished my little challenge and I managed to write and submit my 10 articles in around 2 hours and 40 mins There was a couple of 400 word ones, and 8 250-300 ones. I think they were of pretty good quality, and I think I could have done at least 5 more without sacrificing too much in the way of quality. I still don't think there's any way I could do 100, but I'm glad I've found out 10 is definitely not my limit, and I'll be going for a new personal best of 15 next time

[Scott Ames]

Originally Posted by Jason_V

For all of those who are laughing about the idea of 700 articles in 7 days. Here's a guy who quite frequently writes a huge amount of articles per day. Here's one day where he wrote over 100. He even included the screen shot of his Word docs to prove it:

Day 158 - Wrote 101 Articles Today | Mike Iser .com - Mikeman's Journey To A Full-Time Income Online!

You have to go to his older posts to see him writing a lot of articles himself. Since he started making a lot of money he now outsources a lot too. If you doubt the power of what the OP is talking about you need to read this blog.

Dang... is this another 4 minute mile type thing?

[Hamida Harland]

Originally Posted by Jason_V

For all of those who are laughing about the idea of 700 articles in 7 days. Here's a guy who quite frequently writes a huge amount of articles per day. Here's one day where he wrote over 100. He even included the screen shot of his Word docs to prove it:

Day 158 - Wrote 101 Articles Today | Mike Iser .com - Mikeman's Journey To A Full-Time Income Online!

You have to go to his older posts to see him writing a lot of articles himself. Since he started making a lot of money he now outsources a lot too. If you doubt the power of what the OP is talking about you need to read this blog.

I'm not denying the possibility of writing 100 articles in a day - I haven't done it, but I'm a fast typist so I'm pretty sure I could. What I can't understand though is the point of writing 100 articles in that short a time? 700 articles in 7 days will bring you great traffic for the 7 days, but what then? All your articles will have disappeared into the article directory, maybe a few will stick in the search engines (although it's fairly unlikely) and you're faced with having to repeat the process over and over again.

If you look at that guys earnings he seems to be making less than $100 a day? That's crazy low for that amount of work. The real power in article marketing is in writing great articles, optimizing them properly for the search engines, or maybe building a list - not in churning out hundreds of articles that will only ever be seen 50-100 times (if you're lucky).

[Jason_V]

Originally Posted by Hamida Harland

I'm not denying the possibility of writing 100 articles in a day - I haven't done it, but I'm a fast typist so I'm pretty sure I could. What I can't understand though is the point of writing 100 articles in that short a time? If you look at that guys earnings he seems to be making less than $100 a day? That's crazy low for that amount of work. The real power in article marketing is in optimizing them properly for the search engines, or maybe building a list - not in churning out hundreds of articles that will only ever be seen 50-100 times (if you're lucky).

Before you make statements you really ought to check facts. He's had quite a few over $100 days. If you bothered to read his blog, you'd see that the reason his income is down is because one of the Clickbank products he was promoting changed their landing page.

They claimed the tests proved it was converting just as well. However, he knows they're full of crap because his earnings dropped significantly.

By the way, his early attempts were strictly 1 page Google Sniper sites. Now he's building multiple page Adsense sites.

Again, if you bother to read you'll see that he's only been doing the Adsense sites for a short while. His income is picking up. He's having trouble getting his interior pages ranked. That's just because these are all relatively new sites.

He's using UAW to build links to his interior Adsense site pages. He's making sure they disperse slowly so as not to screw up the rankings he does have for the main pages. Once these articles go out and those links stick, there will be no stopping him.

He has SENuke and tried that, but didn't stick with it. If he would have made link wheels to his interior pages he would have probably done much better too.

He also submits articles to ezine articles with links to his interior pages. They're just now going live. If you look at 10/11 and 10/13 you'll see he submitted 66 articles to ezine. That's 132 articles submitted within a 2 day period. All of them have back links to his interior pages. I'm waiting with anxiousness to see what happens when those batches go live.

Many days between his Clickbank and Adsense he makes over $100. Once his interior pages of his adsense sites start getting indexed I have no doubt his adsense earnings will be over $100 per day alone.

[JNFerree]

Originally Posted by steve39

Yep, not humanly possible. Just to submit those articles (let alone write) would take over 3 hours at 2 minutes each. And that is provided they are all "publish ready."

Yep, sounds kinda nuts to me too!

Even if you could boot up Dragon, insert the text into an article spinning engine and produce 50x versions of the same basic article and submit to the Top 10 article directories, you'd still have to wait for the slow pokes at ezine to publish your content.

I'm still waiting (5 days now) for the molasses in January guys at ezine to get off their butts and move my 3x articles beyond the initial review stage.

To combat ezine slowness, I've opted to use the AVR SaaS tool which Google likes a lot more than ezine anyway.

Besides, in <48 hours, Google put my "what if your articles could talk" AVR (video article) on page one and I didn't have to wait for the slow @$$ ezine diva's.

[CDarklock]

Originally Posted by Jason_V

Here's one day where he wrote over 100. He even included the screen shot of his Word docs to prove it:

"I try to keep these just over 250 words"

Day 153 - ASniper#26 + 24 Articles + Speed Writing Tips | Mike Iser .com - Mikeman's Journey To A Full-Time Income Online!

The OP is recommending twice that length. Mike's output (impressive as it is) comes in at about half the size we're saying can't be done, and it's done over a 14 hour period. Do the math on trying to accomplish this twice in a day.

[Hamida Harland]

Originally Posted by Jason_V

Before you make statements you really ought to check facts. He's had quite a few over $100 days. If you bothered to read his blog, you'd see that the reason his income is down is because one of the Clickbank products he was promoting changed their landing page.

Before you make assumptions about me maybe YOU should check facts. How do you know I didn't read his blog? I've actually been following Mike Isers blog for a while on and off, and right now he's earning approximately $30 a day from about 30 sites (it doesn't matter what he's earned in the past).

Seriously, do you really believe it's worth writing 100 articles a day to even make $100 a day? I certainly don't.

Mike is certainly to be congratulated for taking action, and I have no doubt with his dedication that eventually he will be making a very decent online income. I'm not in any way putting down his efforts, and you shouldn't have taken my post so personally.

[Allen Graves]

I could go flip burgers for 8 hours and double that amount of cash...and I wouldn't have to worry about filing the damn taxes on it. LOL

You go ahead and run that 4 minute mile, I'll take a cab.

Allen

[Jason_V]

Originally Posted by Hamida Harland

Before you make assumptions about me maybe YOU should check facts. How do you know I didn't read his blog? I've actually been following Mike Isers blog for a while on and off, and right now he's earning approximately $30 a day from about 30 sites (it doesn't matter what he's earned in the past).

Seriously, do you really believe it's worth writing 100 articles a day to even make $100 a day? I certainly don't.

Mike is certainly to be congratulated for taking action, and I have no doubt with his dedication that eventually he will be making a very decent online income. I'm not in any way putting down his efforts, and you shouldn't have taken my post so personally.

I didn't take it personally. You claimed he's not even making $100 per day. Yet, he has many times.

That's the thing with article marketing. It takes a while for things to get going. What I was trying to say is that it's true his 30 adsense sites are only earning him about $30 per day. However, his articles he submitted to ezine and UAW haven't been published yet. Once those articles that he keeps mass submitting to ezine go live, his income will probably increase monthly.

Ask any article marketer. They'll tell you that the third month is usually more profitable than the first month.

@CDarklock

I meant to mention he only writes 250 word articles. I know the OP suggested 500 word articles, and I meant to address that. Thanks.

[Hamida Harland]

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

I could go flip burgers for 8 hours and double that amount of cash...and I wouldn't have to worry about filing the damn taxes on it. LOL

You go ahead and run that 4 minute mile, I'll take a cab.

Allen

At least SOMEBODY has some sense. Unfortunately I think too few people in this thread have experienced the real power of article marketing.

[waken]

Hehe .. it's funny to see people still debating on this. I had just written 2 articles - one with 500+ words, another about 380+ words...

How many articles have you guys written today? Come on .. stop challenging the idea but yourself. See how far can you go. You're the one who will benefited in the end.

Ciao! Writing my 3rd articles ..

[la dominatrix]

Originally Posted by adamv

It would take me more than 7 days to find 700 good keywords to write for. Then I would probably take 2 or 3 months to write them all without outsourcing.

The difference here is the fact that those keywords will make you more money. However there is the obverse side of the coin and that is if you publish an article in an ezine directory every fifteen minutes then you would dominate your niche. That is twenty four hours a day and four articles an hour which is a hundred a day. Whilst I have done that I have outsourced it there is no way I can type can type that fast.

Newbies should set themselves realistic targets or outsource and five articles a day is sufficient for a start. There is a place for both quality and quantitiy when submitting articles.
La dominatrix

[pheonix44]

I believe it's possible only if you trick your mind into doing it so that the quality did not suffer. If I were to try this I would do it this way. I would write them all in a similar niche but I would not focus on writing 100 articles a day.

I would focus on writing a full fledged book. I would make an outline and make it entertaining. I found when I do this I could easily write all day because if I write like I'm telling a story or like I'm talking to a group of people writing becomes fun. I've spent enough time talking to myself where it could have been 20 articles dictated. Hell this thread I could write 100 350 articles on.

Once I wrote the book I would break it down into segments of 300-350 words. I wouldn't even think about the 100 article a day goal. Plus you'd be programming your mind to not have to start a new article but instead stay in a flow state with what you were writing. Before you knew it you'd have alot of work done. But you would have to use the 6 Ps, prior proper planning prevents poor performance

[Kevin Williams]

I have a challenge for Warrior Forum addictee's (myself included):

Write a keyword rich and helpful article (and submit it) between every post you make here.

[CDarklock]

Originally Posted by waken

How many articles have you guys written today?

Twelve.

[Hamida Harland]

Originally Posted by Jason_V

You claimed he's not even making $100 per day. Yet, he has many times.

I said 'he seems to be making less than $100 a day', based on this quote from the man himself:

right now I seem to be hovering at around $30/day with 30 odd sites.

What one is earning right now is surely what counts? From that quote it looks to me like he isn't earning $100 a day, and he said himself that he will need to build his VRE up to about 100 sites to do this.

I've had $2000 days, but I would say that I earn less than $2000 a day (because I don't earn that much daily - yet).

Originally Posted by Jason_V

That's the thing with article marketing. It takes a while for things to get going. What I was trying to say is that it's true his 30 adsense sites are only earning him about $30 per day. However, his articles he submitted to ezine and UAW haven't been published yet. Once those articles that he keeps mass submitting to ezine go live, his income will probably increase monthly.

Ask any article marketer. They'll tell you that the third month is usually more profitable than the first month.

I'm actually well aware of how article marketing works (I make a 5 figure monthly income from it), but what I'm considering is the initial traffic and I'm wondering why conversions and Adsense clicks are so low (he does seem to have quite a few articles live already). Of course income will build as the articles are ranked in the search engines, but most articles will get at least 100-500 views the day they're submitted.

Anyway, arguing the finer points isn't going to make any of us any money - I'm off to write some articles