Article Marketing Challenge- Jump On Board Newbies

greff · 10-15-2009, 11:12 AM

I needed a dose of good sarcasm today. Thanks!

TristanPerry · 10-15-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CDarklock

"I try to keep these just over 250 words"

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The OP is recommending twice that length. Mike's output (impressive as it is) comes in at about half the size we're saying can't be done, and it's done over a 14 hour period. Do the math on trying to accomplish this twice in a day.

Yes, however the OP was wrong, IMO, in saying it should be 500 words per article.

That will result in less click-throughs, not more.

250-280 word articles would be best for an optimal CTR (cēterīs paribus) - and as we know, this *is* possible.

I did some basic maths earlier and estimated that you could do 100 ~250 word articles in 14 hours. That blog post shows that my maths is true in practise too.

Don't get me wrong, I also said I'd never dream of trying to write 700 articles in 7 days. I wouldn't have the patience.

But it *is* possible. At least, 100 articles in one day is.

The debate, IMO, should be about whether you can use your 14/16 hours doing something more productive.

CDarklock · 10-15-2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TristanPerry

The debate, IMO, should be about whether you can use your 14/16 hours doing something more productive.

That's pretty much where I was coming from on the question of the Pareto principle. If 20% of your work produces 80% of the results, then it's a smart use of your time to identify that 20% - then concentrate on doing more of that, and less of the rest.

I think it really comes down to the two "extreme" cases of article marketing. The high-quality extreme is to write a fantastically popular book on the subject. The high-volume extreme is to get as many articles out there as possible. Both of these can generate a good living, but they come with a tradeoff: high-quality is beyond a lot of people's ability (there are only so many fantastically popular books), and high-volume doesn't tend to create lasting effects - you have to keep doing it forever.

The key isn't to figure out which of those two things is better, but to figure out where you fit between them... both in terms of results, and in terms of ability... and concentrate on building something that strikes the best balance.

TristanPerry · 10-15-2009, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDarklock

That's pretty much where I was coming from on the question of the Pareto principle. If 20% of your work produces 80% of the results, then it's a smart use of your time to identify that 20% - then concentrate on doing more of that, and less of the rest.

I think it really comes down to the two "extreme" cases of article marketing. The high-quality extreme is to write a fantastically popular book on the subject. The high-volume extreme is to get as many articles out there as possible. Both of these can generate a good living, but they come with a tradeoff: high-quality is beyond a lot of people's ability (there are only so many fantastically popular books), and high-volume doesn't tend to create lasting effects - you have to keep doing it forever.

The key isn't to figure out which of those two things is better, but to figure out where you fit between them... both in terms of results, and in terms of ability... and concentrate on building something that strikes the best balance.

Yes, I completely agree with you on all of that

I do agree that you need to find the trade-off and balance it correctly. I certainly don't feel that 100 articles per day is the most efficient use of time. (But as before, I was just pointing out generally that it's possible)

ryanman · 10-15-2009, 08:44 PM

Alright guys...Let's stop here a bit.

acrasial got in touch with me yesterday via gmail...And challenged me that she can do this within 24 hours. It started at 8 pm canada time...The challenge was that I would pay her $3 per article if she manages to do a 100 in 24 hrs.

It's almost the same time now and so far she has submitted 91 articles. Most of these articles are 400-600 words and I must say I am highly impressed with the quality.

I have already paid her $105 for the first 35 articles which my team of editors has approved. And will pay her for the rest as well since the quality and content is great.

So the lesson here would be...Not to underestimate someone's potential. Now she might not have done 100 but...91 is close enough.

While most of us sat here convincing ourselves and everyone else that it can't be done...Here is this young lady proving everyone else wrong. Hats off to her.

Here is the paypal screenshot of the payment for first 35 articles-

Liam Hamer · 10-15-2009, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanman

Alright guys...Let's stop here a bit.

acrasial got in touch with me yesterday via gmail...And challenged me that she can do this within 24 hours. It started at 8 pm canada time...The challenge was that I would pay her $3 per article if she manages to do a 100 in 24 hrs.

It's almost the same time now and so far she has submitted 91 articles. Most of these articles are 400-600 words and I must say I am highly impressed with the quality.

I have already paid her $105 for the first 35 articles which my team of editors has approved. And will pay her for the rest as well since the quality and content is great.

So the lesson here would be...Not to underestimate someone's potential. Now she might not have done 100 but...91 is close enough.

While most of us sat here convincing ourselves and everyone else that it can't be done...Here is this young lady proving everyone else wrong. Hats off to her.

Wow, very well done acrasial

I never doubted you

Whilst writing this amount of articles is not everyone's thing, you demonstrated what can be achieved when you put your mind to something. Again, very well done

Kevin Williams · 10-15-2009, 09:08 PM

I don't expect to see her posting on this thread for a while, her hands probably hurt :P

Good job anyways

Liam Hamer · 10-15-2009, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spire8989

I don't expect to see her posting on this thread for a while, her hands probably hurt :P

Good job anyways

If I was her, I'd only need to type one line before I rested my hands:

"I told you so"

Jay Jennings · 10-15-2009, 09:53 PM

The question was never 100 articles in a day -- the question was 700 articles in 7 days. There's a WORLD of difference between those two.

100 articles in a day is impressive, sure. But that's not what we were talking about.

Jay Jennings

ryanman · 10-15-2009, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Jennings

The question was never 100 articles in a day -- the question was 700 articles in 7 days. There's a WORLD of difference between those two.

100 articles in a day is impressive, sure. But that's not what we were talking about.

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Randy J · 10-16-2009, 12:09 AM

What are you smoking...You have to be joking...
I fine this post silly...

Jill Carpenter · 10-16-2009, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Jennings

The question was never 100 articles in a day -- the question was 700 articles in 7 days. There's a WORLD of difference between those two.

100 articles in a day is impressive, sure. But that's not what we were talking about.

Jay Jennings

Maybe she is just getting warmed up. This requires training.

I too had a conversation with her. I did not doubt it could be done, but I likened it to a hot dog eating contest.

These guys train for this! Is it possible to eat a gazillion hotdogs in x amount of time? Sure it is! Is it good for you - or better question would it be good for you long term?

A week is probably doable. But like I said this is something you'd want to train for and if you have not been doing it for a while already you'd want to research the heck out of some topics first to have a leg up.

sahi · 10-16-2009, 12:37 AM

Some of the people spend too much energy here to prove that one cannot do something or it's impossible to do something. I see this this sort of trend widespread in here especially in threads where article marketing is discussed.

TristanPerry · 10-16-2009, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanman

Alright guys...Let's stop here a bit.

acrasial got in touch with me yesterday via gmail...And challenged me that she can do this within 24 hours. It started at 8 pm canada time...The challenge was that I would pay her $3 per article if she manages to do a 100 in 24 hrs.

It's almost the same time now and so far she has submitted 91 articles. Most of these articles are 400-600 words and I must say I am highly impressed with the quality.

I have already paid her $105 for the first 35 articles which my team of editors has approved. And will pay her for the rest as well since the quality and content is great.

So the lesson here would be...Not to underestimate someone's potential. Now she might not have done 100 but...91 is close enough.

While most of us sat here convincing ourselves and everyone else that it can't be done...Here is this young lady proving everyone else wrong. Hats off to her.

Here is the paypal screenshot of the payment for first 35 articles-

Thanks for the update, that's great stuff

Fair play to acrasial; everyone was against her from the off and she still got it done.

As a few of us were saying, it definitely *is* possible. The debate is only about whether it's worthwhile.

In some ways it's a great advert for our societies and economies today that we see 100 articles in a day as "too much" and may cause health risks (when, going back 30 years ago, primary labour was massive and loads of British citizens were working as miners underground in awful, awful situations for a tiny amount of cash)

I'm not saying we should all 'punish' ourselves by writing 100 articles in a day, I just find it odd how people kept saying it's impossible when it definitely is in-fact possible

(Not that I'd like to do that many in a day)

I'm currently reading a 'starting' business book by Duncan Bannatyne, a businessman in the UK. He reguarly worked 14/16+ hour days and ended up growing his wealth from £0 to around £310m in around a decade. Again, I'm not saying that by writing 100 articles per day we'll all become rich, I'm just saying that putting the effort in and going against popular opinion can sometimes be the best way to win big.

And congratulations to acrasial who kept arguing her point and has not lived up to her words. I wonder whether those who said it was impossible and that acrasial was silly will post back here?

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YseUp · 10-16-2009, 01:50 AM

Well that's all the evidence I need (/sarcasm)... you paid someone money.... ppfffttt.

TristanPerry · 10-16-2009, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YseUp

Well that's all the evidence I need (/sarcasm)... you paid someone money.... ppfffttt.

You said:

Quote:

Originally Posted by YseUp

I have a solution.

We can set a challenge.

How about we each contribute a little bit of money $ 1 -5 and ask Dr Pro or Acrasial to write us 100 articles in one day. They can't start writing until they receive the topic which will be kept secret until the start of the challenge.

What do you think?

Quote:

Originally Posted by YseUp

So does anyone want to pool together some money in order to pay Acrasial to write 100 articles in 24 hours?

If 25 of us pledge $20 each that would give her $5 per article. Would you write 100 articles for us in 24 hours for $500 Acrasial?

Quote:

Originally Posted by YseUp

But Acrasial, I need 100 articles within 24 hours and you're the only one who can do it!

Sounds like you were trying to be ackward and now you can't admit that Acrasial was right and that you were wrong (to be sarcastic, that is)

Plus you pledged $500. Acrasial did it for almost half that.

crystalq · 10-16-2009, 02:16 AM

LMAO this thread is so funny! I was laughing for like 10Minutes!

@ acrasial

You are so right! (referring to first page posts) and you have a
much more positive attitude than most here, your posts made my day.

Kevin Williams · 10-16-2009, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TristanPerry

You said:

Sounds like you were trying to be ackward and now you can't admit that Acrasial was right and that you were wrong (to be sarcastic, that is)

Plus you pledged $500. Acrasial did it for almost half that.

To be completely fair - she did only make it to 91...

TristanPerry · 10-16-2009, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spire8989

To be completely fair - she did only make it to 91...

Lmao, a fair point

sahi · 10-16-2009, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spire8989

To be completely fair - she did only make it to 91...

At least she tried, and not just sat here on forum.

ninja newbie · 10-16-2009, 03:04 AM

well, this has to be one of the funniest threads I've ever seen on any forum,and some of the replies are hilarious, thanks guys

Jay Jennings · 10-16-2009, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Fair play to acrasial; everyone was against her from the off and she still got it done.

I don't see 700 articles in 7 days.

People in this thread seem to have very selective memories.

Write 100 articles a day for 7 days without repeating yourself and keeping the quality up and then you'll have "proven" you can do it.

To bring back my Mt. Everest analogy...

Person A: "I can climb Mt. Everest in 7 days!"

(24 hours later)

Person A: "I'm on the top of Pike's Peak!"

The Masses: "Oh, we knew you could do it! Those negative ninnies can just suck it! You rock!"

Bah.

Jay Jennings

PS - Like I said before, writing 100 articles (or even 91) in a day is some feat (very few people could/would do it) -- it's just not what was talked about, so don't pretend it was.

Spencer Jones · 10-16-2009, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Jennings

I don't see 700 articles in 7 days.

People in this thread seem to have very selective memories.

Write 100 articles a day for 7 days without repeating yourself and keeping the quality up and then you'll have "proven" you can do it.

To bring back my Mt. Everest analogy...

Person A: "I can climb Mt. Everest in 7 days!"

(24 hours later)

Person A: "I'm on the top of Pike's Peak!"

The Masses: "Oh, we knew you could do it! Those negative ninnies can just suck it! You rock!"

Bah.

Jay Jennings

PS - Like I said before, writing 100 articles (or even 91) in a day is some feat (very few people could/would do it) -- it's just not what was talked about, so don't pretend it was.

Jay, If acrasial can do it in one day, then why can't she reapeat it for the next six days? Sounds like you are pushing her to enter the guinness book of world records... LOL...

I believe she has enough positivity to get the work done, unless the 99.9% negativity in this thread corrupts the positivity...

Well done acrasial... Warriors give acrasial a standing ovation...

Allen Graves · 10-16-2009, 06:40 AM

Am I the only one that saw what happened here?

Allen

Jay Jennings · 10-16-2009, 06:46 AM

Well, I saw a couple posts vanish, if that's what you mean.

Jay Jennings

Liam Hamer · 10-16-2009, 06:52 AM

I haven't noticed anything, and have been keeping an eye on the thread

priyankeshu · 10-16-2009, 06:53 AM

well i would like to thank you for encouraging words.. It might not be possible to write that much in 7 days but may be 10 days.. and it really is all about how you plan to write the content and how your ogranize the information..

I have written around 40 articles in 6 hours.. so 100 would not be that difficult.. yes guys before you start shouting at me.. it really is all about changing the way you work.. be creative and the results could be better...

I was thinking of creating individual sites but now i think i will give article marketing a shot...

thanks for the tip again

Allen Graves · 10-16-2009, 07:02 AM

No, I'm not talking about missing posts. I just think it smells in here.

Im out...

BigRedNotebook · 10-16-2009, 10:42 AM

I'm with Allen. This thread needs a can of Lysol.

mrwoods · 10-16-2009, 10:55 AM

Thanks for that point. Too many people just recycle vague or less meaningfull content in order to produce traffic. If more people spent more time working on less, could you imagine the quality content we would have. It sure would make purchasing decisions a whole lot simplier if the IM standard were higher.

M Thompson · 10-16-2009, 11:08 AM

This is certainly one of the most amusing threads i've read for a long time.

acrasial, well done on the 91 that is quite an accomplishment, but you really be able to repeat it and keep up the quality for a further 6 days?

700 articles seems like taking a shotgun approach, personally I prefer a more sniper like approach. Pick a target and write some good quality content that gets results.

I suppose if you really want the 700 articles to be useful they should all be on different niches and keywords so that you can get results you can analyse.

ryanman · 10-16-2009, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrwoods

Thanks for that point. Too many people just recycle vague or less meaningfull content in order to produce traffic. If more people spent more time working on less, could you imagine the quality content we would have. It sure would make purchasing decisions a whole lot simplier if the IM standard were higher.

All her articles are above par...I mean in terms of quality she is right up there as well.

preethi daniel · 03-16-2010, 05:33 AM

Hi,
This is preethi. I am a newbie. I have been writing articles to lot of my clients who are making money through article marketing. I wish I could do that too. I just know that hey submit articles to websits like ezine but I really do not know, How we get paid or how much we have to invest to get started. Please can you help me from scratch. I am a good writer but I am suffering from financial crisis. Thought this money could help me. Can you help me plz.

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ryanman The Ultimate Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 922 Thanks: 18 Thanked 295 Times in 141 Posts	Re: Article Marketing Challenge- Jump On Board Newbies Alright guys...Let's stop here a bit. acrasial got in touch with me yesterday via gmail...And challenged me that she can do this within 24 hours. It started at 8 pm canada time...The challenge was that I would pay her $3 per article if she manages to do a 100 in 24 hrs. It's almost the same time now and so far she has submitted 91 articles. Most of these articles are 400-600 words and I must say I am highly impressed with the quality. I have already paid her $105 for the first 35 articles which my team of editors has approved. And will pay her for the rest as well since the quality and content is great. So the lesson here would be...Not to underestimate someone's potential. Now she might not have done 100 but...91 is close enough. While most of us sat here convincing ourselves and everyone else that it can't be done...Here is this young lady proving everyone else wrong. Hats off to her. Here is the paypal screenshot of the payment for first 35 articles- Attached Thumbnails
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Jay Jennings Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Everywhere , USA. Posts: 1,204 Thanks: 46 Thanked 98 Times in 65 Posts	Re: Article Marketing Challenge- Jump On Board Newbies The question was never 100 articles in a day -- the question was 700 articles in 7 days. There's a WORLD of difference between those two. 100 articles in a day is impressive, sure. But that's not what we were talking about. Jay Jennings
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sahi HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PK Posts: 243 Thanks: 19 Thanked 29 Times in 25 Posts Contact Info	Re: Article Marketing Challenge- Jump On Board Newbies Some of the people spend too much energy here to prove that one cannot do something or it's impossible to do something. I see this this sort of trend widespread in here especially in threads where article marketing is discussed.

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YseUp HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: London, UK Posts: 244 Thanks: 44 Thanked 10 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Article Marketing Challenge- Jump On Board Newbies Well that's all the evidence I need (/sarcasm)... you paid someone money.... ppfffttt.

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priyankeshu HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 226 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 49 Thanked 36 Times in 25 Posts	Re: Article Marketing Challenge- Jump On Board Newbies well i would like to thank you for encouraging words.. It might not be possible to write that much in 7 days but may be 10 days.. and it really is all about how you plan to write the content and how your ogranize the information.. I have written around 40 articles in 6 hours.. so 100 would not be that difficult.. yes guys before you start shouting at me.. it really is all about changing the way you work.. be creative and the results could be better... I was thinking of creating individual sites but now i think i will give article marketing a shot... thanks for the tip again

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mrwoods Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: In the Heartland-Iowa Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Article Marketing Challenge- Jump On Board Newbies Thanks for that point. Too many people just recycle vague or less meaningfull content in order to produce traffic. If more people spent more time working on less, could you imagine the quality content we would have. It sure would make purchasing decisions a whole lot simplier if the IM standard were higher.

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