New Google Service: "Google Editions" - For Selling Digital Products

daddyoh · 10-15-2009, 10:26 AM

It looks like Google is going to start selling ebooks in 2010.
But get this! Google is going to keep 55% and pay the publishers 45%!
That seems like highway robbery to me! What do you think?

I'm not sure from what I've read so far if ebook publishers such as
myself and many fellow Warriors will be able to sell ebooks through
Google Editions. I'm doing more research to find out.

Here's a story from the Associated Press on Yahoo! News:

Google to launch Google Editions platform - Yahoo! News

Scott Ames · 10-15-2009, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daddyoh

It looks like Google is going to start selling ebooks in 2010.
But get this! Google is going to keep 55% and pay the publishers 45%!
That seems like highway robbery to me! What do you think?

I'm not sure from what I've read so far if ebook publishers such as
myself and many fellow Warriors will be able to sell ebooks through
Google Editions. I'm doing more research to find out.

Here's a story from the Associated Press on Yahoo! News:

Google to launch Google Editions platform - Yahoo! News

55% !!! It was nice of them to leave a little for the author. Geez. I guess however you could consider them a super affiliate. We sometimes give 75% to affiliates, so thats not out of line. It all depends on how well sales are from Google.

lakshaybehl · 10-15-2009, 10:48 AM

If they can generate half the number of sales I am expecting from them, I'd rather pay 90% of the revs... Does it cost anything anyways?

-Lakshay

OhTanner · 10-15-2009, 10:54 AM

nice, thats good to hear.

Ron Razor · 10-15-2009, 10:56 AM

I like the idea, but why are people even going to Google to buy books? I dont understand where the traffic will come from unless they will just show ads for your book throughout their network.

briankoz · 10-15-2009, 11:01 AM

Don't know what the fuss is here. 55% isn't that much when affiliates usually get at least 50% anyway, and if you were to publish an offline book and ask for 45% of the revenue, you'd probably get laughed at.

As far as where they'd get the traffic, they're Google -- they get TONS upon TONS upon TONS of traffic to almost anything they launch.

Brian

trapp120 · 10-15-2009, 12:28 PM

This kind of tactic is exactly what I mean when I say Google is squeezing the affiliate? They want to run a successful CPA model. This is just stupid. They control 70% of the search market and now they're exploiting it like Windows on PC's.

Dan C. Rinnert · 10-15-2009, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trapp120

This kind of tactic is exactly what I mean when I say Google is squeezing the affiliate? They want to run a successful CPA model. This is just stupid. They control 70% of the search market and now they're exploiting it like Windows on PC's.

Just stand back and let Google continue to weave their own rope...

AmyBrown · 10-15-2009, 01:44 PM

I believe Kindle authors receive 35% and that is the market share Google is after. Write it, forget it, receive 35-45% of sales to a potentially very broad audience. Doesn't sound like a bad deal to me.

Daniel Brock · 10-15-2009, 01:47 PM

I can see this hurting affiliates in the long run.

Now you have to contend against Google + the 100 other affiliates promoting the same product.

I wonder if they are going to integrate the books into their search results....

JayXtreme · 10-15-2009, 01:49 PM

I see this as good news..

Flippin' Kindle won't let me publish on their own little "U.S. only" gadget.. despite my pleading, thousands of dollars in potential revenue for them....

NO.. Amazon expect me to move half across the world to publish on their gadget!!!

At least Google is playin' fair

..lol.. I can't say that with a straight face

Peace

Jay

AmyBrown · 10-15-2009, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayXtreme

I see this as good news..

Flippin' Kindle won't let me publish on their own little "U.S. only" gadget.. despite my pleading, thousands of dollars in potential revenue for them....

NO.. Amazon expect me to move half across the world to publish on their gadget!!!

At least Google is playin' fair

..lol.. I can't say that with a straight face

Peace

Jay

With the release of the international version next week Amazon's publishing requirements may change if they haven't already.

DAS_Matt · 10-15-2009, 02:10 PM

If Google provides a fairly easy and/or free/inexpensive way to get it in front of eyeballs I don't see a problem with it.

LB · 10-15-2009, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Brock

I can see this hurting affiliates in the long run.

Now you have to contend against Google + the 100 other affiliates promoting the same product.

I wonder if they are going to integrate the books into their search results....

Of course ...soon every search result is going to be a google-owned property.

Pretty funny when google says "ebook sites" are one of the sites not allowed to be advertised on Adwords.

They've fallen so far.

lakshaybehl · 10-15-2009, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LB

Of course ...soon every search result is going to be a google-owned property.

Pretty funny when google says "ebook sites" are one of the sites not allowed to be advertised on Adwords.

They've fallen so far.

Indeed.

Looks like they do not have a vision beyond imposing their supremacy on every part of the internet.

-Lakshay

siteflip · 10-15-2009, 02:45 PM

Not related but just a note to LB:
you are so right!

remember the good old days of the "white knight" that came to save us from Micro$oft?

"Have fallen so far" indeed! ...
ok who's next ? lol

Lukas · 12-01-2009, 11:24 AM

gee. these guys will be everywhere.

making smart appliances. why not; they made a phone.
ISP - maybe they will have the strongest bandwidth of anyone.
virtual real estate agent; getting there
insurance;
loan money to troubled nations
its own sports league
Did you hear a Google higher up will be on the 2012 presidential ticket

Anything, I am saying here people will be curious except as a pres. nomination, unless meg Whitman wins CA and does good change.

jazbo · 12-01-2009, 12:02 PM

It seems to me to be aimed at the reading device (kindle) market, rather than your 30 page "how to" staple, I would think there will be a ton of hoops and minimums to get through to reach their marketplace?

Bill Farnham · 12-01-2009, 12:26 PM

From PC World...

"This is a whole new offering from Google that will create an online bookstore to go head-to-head with Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble's online presence. Preliminary details on Google Editions suggest that Google plans to share the revenue from online book sales with the publishers. Books sold directly through Google Editions would pay out 63 percent to the publisher, with Google keeping the other 37 percent.

Somehow, Google also plans to work with and through competing sites like Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble. Sales generated through competing online sites would net only 45 percent for the publisher, with 55 percent going to the competing online retailer minus a small cut for Google."

It looks like Google is really targeting the Kindle crowd as opposed to the "How To" crowd that IM appeals to. However, if it were possible to be a CB style publisher directly linking through Google Editions, that could be a game changer...

KJ

Bret Ferguson · 12-01-2009, 12:47 PM

It could be a win for the author for sure, actually doesn't sound like to bad of a deal. These ebooks aren't probably the ones that you and I or affiliates would be involved with anyway. At least not at any significant level.

10-15-2009, 10:26 AM	#1
daddyoh Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Oregon, USA. Posts: 1,631 Thanks: 103 Thanked 83 Times in 69 Posts Social Networking	New Google Service: "Google Editions" - For Selling Digital Products - Coming in 2010 It looks like Google is going to start selling ebooks in 2010. But get this! Google is going to keep 55% and pay the publishers 45%! That seems like highway robbery to me! What do you think? I'm not sure from what I've read so far if ebook publishers such as myself and many fellow Warriors will be able to sell ebooks through Google Editions. I'm doing more research to find out. Here's a story from the Associated Press on Yahoo! News: Google to launch Google Editions platform - Yahoo! News
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OhTanner Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New Google Service: "Google Editions" - For Selling Digital Products - Coming in 2010 nice, thats good to hear.

10-15-2009, 10:56 AM	#5
Ron Razor Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 24 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: New Google Service: "Google Editions" - For Selling Digital Products - Coming in 2010 I like the idea, but why are people even going to Google to buy books? I dont understand where the traffic will come from unless they will just show ads for your book throughout their network.

10-15-2009, 11:01 AM	#6
briankoz Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Madison, WI , USA. Posts: 3,836 Thanks: 0 Thanked 23 Times in 17 Posts	Re: New Google Service: "Google Editions" - For Selling Digital Products - Coming in 2010 Don't know what the fuss is here. 55% isn't that much when affiliates usually get at least 50% anyway, and if you were to publish an offline book and ask for 45% of the revenue, you'd probably get laughed at. As far as where they'd get the traffic, they're Google -- they get TONS upon TONS upon TONS of traffic to almost anything they launch. Brian
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trapp120 Active Warrior Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 52 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: New Google Service: "Google Editions" - For Selling Digital Products - Coming in 2010 This kind of tactic is exactly what I mean when I say Google is squeezing the affiliate? They want to run a successful CPA model. This is just stupid. They control 70% of the search market and now they're exploiting it like Windows on PC's.

10-15-2009, 01:44 PM	#9
AmyBrown HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The Left Coast, USA Posts: 477 Thanks: 250 Thanked 165 Times in 112 Posts	Re: New Google Service: "Google Editions" - For Selling Digital Products - Coming in 2010 I believe Kindle authors receive 35% and that is the market share Google is after. Write it, forget it, receive 35-45% of sales to a potentially very broad audience. Doesn't sound like a bad deal to me.
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Daniel Brock Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,628 Thanks: 169 Thanked 932 Times in 252 Posts Contact Info	Re: New Google Service: "Google Editions" - For Selling Digital Products - Coming in 2010 I can see this hurting affiliates in the long run. Now you have to contend against Google + the 100 other affiliates promoting the same product. I wonder if they are going to integrate the books into their search results....
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DAS_Matt HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 183 Thanks: 9 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: New Google Service: "Google Editions" - For Selling Digital Products - Coming in 2010 If Google provides a fairly easy and/or free/inexpensive way to get it in front of eyeballs I don't see a problem with it.

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Bret Ferguson Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Midwest Posts: 92 Thanks: 33 Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts Social Networking	Re: New Google Service: "Google Editions" - For Selling Digital Products - Coming in 2010 It could be a win for the author for sure, actually doesn't sound like to bad of a deal. These ebooks aren't probably the ones that you and I or affiliates would be involved with anyway. At least not at any significant level.