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Old 10-15-2009, 07:33 PM   #1
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I started working marketing penis enlargement as my first real campaign a month and a half back. While my sales haven't been consistent I'm thrilled with $600 and some odd that I've made so far. My question is... can I make this consistent? As someone who is doing the legwork (writing, backlinking, website creation/tweaking) all by myself can I make this a decent source of income (even one sale per day would be great right now as I'm in high school and have to IM part time for obvious reasons).

I have other keyword sets for other niches that would be easy to rank for but I'm not sure when to start them. I don't want to get caught up in the "too many things at once" cycle but I do want to at some point be able to just have opt-in and such set up for the PE and be able to build a new campaign on top of it. After what amount of time should I begin building something new? What formula has worked for you guys?
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:14 PM   #2
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I haven't tried out this niche although I have a PLR WSO (sig) in it. Basically, I did research first. This niche is huge and right now it's really easy to break into. Seriously, many phrases that are getting 10,000+ monthly searches are still completely dominated by article directories!

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Old 10-15-2009, 11:13 PM   #3
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Whatever you do, build an email list. Don't think this sh1t is too difficult, the difficult niches are difficult for a reason - there's a lot of money in it.

My advice would be to talk directly with your AM and get top dollar, then focus on strategy, you seem to following the right path.
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Yeh I agree with spire8989, the niche is huge and there are lot of buying customers for this niche. "sex sell"
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Old 10-15-2009, 11:39 PM   #5
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Onward and upward I suppose!
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Onward and upward I suppose!
That's the key my friend. Keep building and eventually you'll start to see some consistency - $600 is a GREAT start!

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The biggest thing you should focus on is LIST BUILDING...
build lists in what ever niches your targeting, then email market to your lists...

then do ad swaps, find JV partners,try and team up with other marketers lists to promote to...soon you will be on your way making money at a click of a button...

Learn as much as you can and take ACTION...

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Old 10-16-2009, 12:26 AM   #8
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I'm gonna get an opt in up sometime in the next week or two and this weekend am re-working my site to try and increase CT rate.
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I'm thrilled with $600 and some odd that I've made so far. ... right now as I'm in high school and have to IM part time for obvious reasons).
$600 is not bad at all... considering your still in highschool and I guess your still getting allowances from your parents.
There's a lot of potential market in your niche. But there are also a lot of competitors going for that. So you just have to find the right KW phrase you will target for your niche market. Good Luck!

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I would keep working the site till you are generating what you feel is a good income, for little effort. get to the point where it makes what you are happy with without you constantly having to tweak it, then move onto something else. just always be doing something.

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Old 10-16-2009, 12:36 AM   #11
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Good, my goal for this site would be to average one sale every day. I am hoping I can achieve this once I learn a little bit more about how to funnel interest to the product.
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Old 10-16-2009, 12:56 AM   #12
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Really great feedback in here, Warriors! It's so nice to be in an industry where thousands are "in competition" but there's so much to go around that no one minds lending a helping hand (or at least their thoughts!).
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Old 10-16-2009, 01:54 AM   #13
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Thanks to everyone... I'll let this drop down now if there is nothing more to be said.
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:30 AM   #14
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I would also say that if you do have extra time that you are not focused on this niche, it wouldn't hurt to start one other niche. I always caution people just starting out not to juggle too many niches but it appears that you have stepped over that hurdle so if you think you can handle it (you have a good idea of what/how much work goes into creating/maintaining a campaign) then go for it.

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Several questions to ask yourself:

1) Are the things you are doing goign to give long term results or are they temporary: getting a keyword/article to page 1 of google is long term potential, writting an article that disappears from just about anywhere is short term even if doign so makes you a sale or two.

2) if long term -> how much money do you expect the results (getting to page 1 or w/e else you are tryign to achieve) to make you over x amount of time?
If short term (or a one and done kind of thing) how much money does it get you before it's gone?

3) How much would it cost to outsource those things and would the results be the same (quality of articles for example)

Look at # 2 and #3; #3 is something you have to test obviously, since it can be hard to tell if outsourcing would produce the same results, in some cases it does, in other it doesn't.

But let's say you wrote 5 articles, built 50 back links to each and made 600$ You can outsource articles for say 20$ each - at that price you should get very good quality (so better chance that results will be similar) get backlinks at say 1$/link so 250$ total (there was someone in warriors for hire section offering them for around this price)

So, 350$ in outsoucing to make 600$ Even if it's short term it's worth foing, if it's somethign that will give work long term it's even better. And while you have this done with minimal involvment from you, you can look at doing other things and looking at other niches.

Remember you only have 24 hours in a day, so outsourcing is key to doing more faster. I realize this doesn't directly answer your question, but that's how I see it.

But to answer your original question, once you find somethign that will give you better return on time spent and/or once you get your current venture to the point where it makes money passively (through organic traffic for instance) so that if you stop working on it, the results won't drop to near 0.
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Old 10-16-2009, 09:11 AM   #16
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Thanks very much guys, great suggestions I'll implement ; )
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List swap when you've got enough signed up. Remember to focus on the layout of your emails, don't have long paragraphs, perhaps highlight the most important information, just remember that people have little patience for these type of emails, and may only read the highlighted part before deciding whether or not to go back and read the whole article.

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While my sales haven't been consistent I'm thrilled with $600 and some odd that I've made so far.
And so you should be - that probably puts you in the top 1% of people who start up any internet marketing (and is more than I made in my first month).

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My question is... can I make this consistent?
Sure - of course you can. The stuff you learned over the last month or two is worth way more than any $600.

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I'm gonna get an opt in up sometime in the next week or two.
I appreciate that you're in a niche in which many people may not be willing to "opt in", but I'm sure some will. And the general principle is clearly right, because this is something you're going to need to do in other niches in future, anyway. (Just don't "start with a free autoresponder planning to switch later"! But you know this already. ).

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