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Ok here is a scenario for all of you warrior members:
You dicsover a hot niche, or several of them. But they are subjects that you know very little or absolutely nothing about. So what is your process of learning about the subject in order to establish yourself as an authority in the subject. As an example let's use weight loss. Now supposedly you know nothing on diets, nutrition etc. how would you go about becoming a authority on the subject? Thanks in advance, TheGodfather |
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Pick the market you know something about! That is the easiest.
Now, you said you pick the niche Weight loss. That is not a niche! The niche is a group of people with a problem, and in your case it is almost the whole world with a problem. If I was going to work in some niche, I would want it to be more targeted, "Women After Pregnancy wanting to lose weight"! If you hit on the broad market, you will have very low conversions especially if you are just starting out. You will make sales, I am not saying you will not, BUT working in targeted niche, you can just do so much more with it! just my two "Kuna's" Croatian currency Ivana |
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Yeah I understand,
But what about exploring new niches? That's what I'm talking about. The areas of knowledge that I'm interested, unfortunately, do not have any markets, and the ones that they do I can't compete in because I can't obtain the products (it requires physical products). |
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I think research is the key. Get information from wherever you can - consider that learning about the topic is your job - because it is!
One approach to getting started in a new, unfamiliar niche is to be honest with your readers - tell them that you are in the process of learning about XXXXX and you will share your knowledge as you learn about the subject. Lots of people would probably enjoy learning along with you. After a short time you will know more than most people about whatever the topic is and you will be considered an expert. Just my opinion. Hope it helps. |
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Do what you know......weight loss has been done into the ground.
BUt.,....it you can create a new weight loss product?....then maybe you'll get rich !! |
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The goal is to widen my site count and to be able to disperse my income online. Thus providing me with a more stable income. | |
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Hit the public library. Grab the more popular books, skim through them, and focus in on a specialty. Then get the top books on that specialty from Amazon, and read them all the way through. Shouldn't take more than two weeks.
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"Your niche" + "forum" and yahoo answers "your niche"
are hands down the two best places to find the most important questions about a new niche. People are on both places looking for answers |
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If you don't have any expertise in a niche before you enter into it,
you'll probably never be an authority figure. Or an expert. Trying to trick people into believing that you are is only going to end up being harmful to your image. So why not position yourself differently? Why not interview the experts? Why not create an audio product based on a round-table discussion with a few experts in your niche? |
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I have entered many niches where I was a newbie. The thing is, I was very interested in those niches. Here is what works for me....
Teaching is the best way to learn. So, study one tiny part of the topic. Write an article. Link back to your squeeze page where you are gathering names. Keep studying small parts of the niche and writing new articles. Or, posting videos if that is your thing. You do not need to know how to build a car in order to write about how to check the tire pressure or choose a mechanic. Don't everreach yourself, but keep learning constantly. As you learn, pass it along. How long it will take to become an expert really depends entirely on the topic - and how hard you work. I am not trained in medicine. However, I have a particular disorder that affects a lot of people. I started researching for my own needs. Found that others also needed the same info. Started sharing what I knew. Two years later, after writing two books, a whole lot of articles, and building a list - I was asked to speak at TWO national conferences for that disorder. I had successfully become an expert. Yes, I had an in since I have it, but I could have done the same thing (and have been successful) in niches that are far outside my own experience. The real key, as I see it, is to use your passion. If you are passionate about it, you can learn about it and teach it. As long as you are realistic, it can succeed. I do not recommend selling a "Brain Surgery At Home - The Fun and Easy Way" ebook, but you could sure write an ebook called "How to Choose A Brain Surgeon for Dummies." Get people on your list with a free report called "10 Things to Know Before Brain Surgery." |
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Mark, won't that only work if he has content to begin with? You can't legally just grab other people's work and spin it - yeah, some get away with it but it's still dishonest and technically illegal.
Homeworkin, I thanked you but just wanted to say that your post was very helpful and gave excellent advice. Godfather, if you have the budget, you could also outsource some of your content, particularly if you're really not interested enough to learn about it. No sense being bored out of your mind...lol. Tina |
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I am glad I was able to help!
PLR is a good place to get articles, but you don't learn as much reworking a PLR article as you do writing from scratch. If you plan to turn your articles into a product, it can help to write an outline first. Then, just write an article about each bullet point. Then, when you are ready to create your product, just string them together with some chapter heads and such and you will have a finished book. |
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You could find an expert and interview them on the subject. That way you are still giving quality and accurate information without having to learn everything yourself.
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Here is what I do in situation like this:
I go to Google - search for the main keyword and looking my competitiors sites. Doing a bit of research I end up with some ideas of what I can do and how I can penalize the competition. For example: Yestarday I was looking to start a product in a really competition niche but after I done the research I end up that my competition are uselles... and I said to me - I can beat them! Belive me I have no idea how to manage this product - I will outsourced it. Hope that helps Thanks Ivancho |
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I love the way so many people just refuse to answer the OPs question. He's
not asking for what's better to do or what have you. He's asking for how long it takes to become an expert in a niche. There are two answers to this question. The first one is what you define as an "expert." This alone can be a very subjective thing in itself. I consider myself an expert on pop music trivia, yet there are people out there who blow my knowledge out of the water with what they know. So does that make me not an expert? Depends on who you ask. So in the strictest meaning of the word, who knows? Everything is relative. What it comes down to is this. At what point do you feel comfortable giving advice to people and feel confident enough in that advice that you're not worried about somebody writing to you to tell you that you're an idiot for dishing out advice like that. A lot of being an expert at something has to do with confidence backed up by actual factual knowledge. In other words, you can't be a bull sh*t artist. You need to know your stuff. How much? Nobody can answer that for certain. The second answer to that question, on a more practical level is this. Know enough of the subject matter to be able to speak about it intelligently to those who know nothing about it. This may not make you an expert on the subject, but it makes you somebody who can possibly help another person with their problems. Okay, now the dangers. And I'm going to keep this generic so that nobody comes back at me with the same lame answers about how that niche is different or doesn't apply or whatever. Some niches are what I call more mission critical than others. In other words, the info that you give can do more harm than good if it's not factually correct and/or complete. Again, I'm not going to single any niches out but common sense should tell you what they are. Anything that's a matter of life and death. Anything financially related. Anything that can cause severe physical or emotional harm to a person. Now, as far as how to get to be an expert or at the very least, knowledgeable enough...no way to give a one size fits all answer because all niches are different. Some require very little knowledge to become an expert at. Others literally require years of study. I have found that the time required to become an expert is directly proportional to the complexity of the subject itself...and even then, not always. Take pop music. It's not a complex subject as far as technical knowhow. But imagine trying to be an expert on all of pop music history. We're talking of years and years of music. One literally needs to have grown up with it to be a true expert. I can't see anybody "learning" this going at it from a cold dead start unless they have a mind like a sponge. What I am essentially trying to say in a very round about way is this. Nobody can tell you what you're going to need to do to become an expert at something or how long it will take because: 1. The term itself is open to interpretation. 2. It will vary greatly depending on what the actual niche is. And you don't wake up one day and become an expert. This is something that happens over time. For me, with pop music, it came from years of listening to the radio, going to clubs, buying records, etc. Suddenly, I had all this knowledge that had accumulated. I was slowly becoming an expert over time. Sadly, the term "expert" is so misused when it comes to Internet marketing. Very few of us are "truly" experts at our niche, especially if it's something we knew nothing about when we first started. I consider myself an expert at article writing because I've been writing for over 30 years. I didn't just wake up one day and decide to become an article writer like so many Internet marketers do and then call themselves an expert. It's a joke. Anyway, I don't know whether this response was any help to you or not, but I stand behind saying that it's probably the most accurate one you're going to get. Only you will know when you're an expert. And even then...you may still be wrong. |
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Trying a list of around 20 random subjects and score them out of 10. The higher the number the more you evaluate it. But it helps if its something your interested in. Or even a hobby.
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Thank you so very much for returning to the question at hand. Your answer is definitely the best one here. By the term "expert" i meant simply a person who can give intelligent enough answers with out causing someone any type of harm, be it emotional, health, financial or just plain old bad advice. Thanks again for this elaborate and great answer. Kudos | |
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Mark - good point about the PLR. I'm not sure if everyone is familiar with the concept so it's good to have it specified in the thread.
Steve - No offense, but I went back to read the OP again just to check and that is NOT the question actually asked within the post. He mentions it in the title but not the body. Your response is great and very informative but the rest of us surely did not avoid the original question as we answered what he put in the post. Tina |
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an expert on a subject. He only used weight loss as an example and wasn't asking advice on what niche to go after. Isn't that what THIS means? So what is your process of learning about the subject in order to establish yourself as an authority in the subject. Like I said, maybe I'm just dense but it seems to me that I asked the question the OP asked taking the title of the thread and this one sentence into consideration. Others chose to ignore the title, something that happens way too often here. | ||
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spend few hours on EZA or about.com [1000 times better] and read everything about the niche.this is what i prefer.
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Who is the expert ? For searcher whor type in particular niche when your site show up on 1 page does it tell you anthing? Obvoiusly they so many internet marketers giving reviews, are this make them an expert ?
If you present a solution for their problem 100% and you are on #1 page you already there. Do not worry too much ? Go out and do it.
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Just target a specific niche that is in demand you can do quite well.
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Spend an afternoon reading the magazines at what ever mega bookstores you have by you. You should be able to find at least 1000 good niches there, and should be able to get a quick primer as to the niche by looking through the related magazines.
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I find if you read several articles from different sources and then re-write them in YOUR OWN words (don't publish) is good practice at getting to know your niche and being able to write about it.
You can enter a new niche in a matter of hours using this technique. Though, you won't be an expert. It'll take time. Market was sells well and not what you're interested in. I switched strategy a few months back and have started to see some great results. The "Pick the market you know something about!" is a tired statement and has been used to death on these forums and in my opinion wrong. Market what's selling well at the mo (use Amazon bestsellers list). Even purchase a few books on the niche you're interested. If you want to "establish yourself as an authority in the subject" you will need to write lots of content and maybe do a few video and text reviews of Amazon products. When people start to see your name everywhere you're on the road to becoming an authority in the subject. |
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There is something to separating business from "pleasure". And once done you look at it as a job and not something that might be fun to do that day. A job is a job is a job.
You have to take your job seriously and once you do you will produce, in my opinion, more results then the person who works his hobby as a business. The difference is, what I find it to be, is that the person who finds it as a job and not a hobby is that the person will stay more open minded and not be swallowed by the hobby itself. Personally I have loads of interests but when i researched them non of them showed any market demand, thus I'm forced to find something that "sells" well and consider it a job, not something fun to do. |
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Hm...I bet there is a way to monetize the skills you have so maybe you want to list them here and some of us can help you with finding the niche market you can monetize on.
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This is the first thread I read after reading this one:
Most so called "Internet Marketers" are liars.. HOW FUNNY! No disrespect or put down intended as this is what we are taught to do by many "gurus" Quote:
make you appear to be an authority. In Weight Loss, dietitians and nutritionists need a least a bachelor's degree, license, certification or meet registration requirements. To be an "authority" online all you need to do is read a few ezine articles, reword them and your are an "EXPERT". Get some PLR and do some SEO and it will almost guarantee it. I know, I know! That is how we are taught to make money online and to become respected authorities in IM. I just think it is funny. | |
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LOL i get what you are saying... I can start to see how it's funny. But the thing is I really want to become EXCELLENT in what I do, I really want to be able to help people, I love to help people it's in my nature to help them. I always say: If gratitude was a currency I would be one of the richest people in the world
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Godfather, you have some good markets in the interests/knowledge that you have. Don't let competition scare you off as that is what tells you there is a lot of money in the category. Just try to find a small niche within one of those larger topics.
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Godfather, the bodybuilding niche is smoking hot and new potential customers are always entering this market. There's a ton of sub-niche's on this topic so that should keep you busy.
Start writing lots of articles about being a better bodybuilder and take an active part in the relevant forums. Again, when people start to recognise and see your name they'll consider you an expert. |
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Here is the exact process that I use to become expert at something.
First, you need to find reference material. It could be anything in that niche, book, video, ebook, article etc. EZA or about.com would do fine so is Amazon and Google Books. For Amazon you don't even need to buy the book. Lots of books have the "Look inside" feature where you can see few pages. For Google books you can see almost the whole book. All you need is few pages. Once you get the reference material, skimp over all the pages you've found then pick one page. When you first start out in a niche, pick the easiest one ( the one you understand the most). Read it like you read a text book, meaning try to memorize it as if you are preparing for a test. Do whatever you normally do, such as highlighting, taking notes etc., to help you memories. Spend no more than 30 minutes on that page. Now this is the most important part. After working on it for 30 minutes, leave it until you just about to forget. The exact time differs for everyone. If you are rain man this would not work . For most people it's couple of hours. But you should not leave it for more than one night.When you feel you are just about to forget - make sure you have about 30 minutes of time - sit down and start writing. Don't try to write the same words but rather make sure you hit the same points in the original article. Don't worry bout spelling or grammar. Don't try to correct anything except to clarify you points. Don't spend more than 30 minutes to write. After writing spend no more than 10 minutes to compare what you wrote and the original article. Note any discrepancies. For most people this is going to be hard at first but If you stick with it, within 10-30 days you'll feel that you've got the process. Depends on the niche that you pick. It generally takes 50-500 read/write exercises to become "expert". As ivana mentioned it is important which niche you pick. But that's another subject. How do you know you've become an expert? When you can: 1. Skimp 10 -50 pages in the niche then write out the essential parts in 1-2 pages without referring to the original pages. 2. Use the 1-2 pages of summary you wrote in #1 and expand out to 10-50 pages of material without referring to anything else. Like Steven Wagenheim said some niche have more facts than structure so this process does not work so well. But even in those niches you'll come away with the understanding of those larger themes in that niche. At the end of all these, you'll have become an "expert", you've also got hundreds of original articles in that niche. I'm sure you can think of few things to do with them .
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Ok, just looking at graphic designer. I am terrible at it, I hire people to make graphics for me. I pay anywhere from $20-$250 per design, (depends on what is being offered!) There is still money you can make in it. I had also hired a person to design 10 templates for me, and I resell them.
You can create great custom design templates and sell them for cheap or have a free offer upfront, and offer the up sell later on! IT/Computers, people have issues with viruses all the time, right, give them a tutorial on how to remove it with free software, up sell the paid version so they protect their computer from then on. You can read the whole day long, on different strategies, and how to do it, but if you don't start doing it you will not know. I don't say this to put you down, after all we both live in CRO now but I say this, so you start taking action. Ivana |
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Just opened a blog under my domain, not quite SEO-ed with the domain but i don't thing it will matter...
Now I got an idea but just need to start realizing it... have tons of work ahead of me, still have to fix my blog so that i have all the functionality I want. But thanks for all advice that you all gave, to a more or lesser extent you all helped a lot. Thanks. TheGodfather P.S. Ivana , once I get well and healthy again, I'm gonna to meet up with you so that you can explain some stuff to me in more detail. |
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